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When I have looked over a 3 month period or so for the glycol loss, it does not seem to have
an obvious pattern shown in the below graph. The stripping gas, its volume and pressure does not
250 5
4.5
200 4
3.5
150 3
m3/hr
2.5
Glycol loss
100 2
bar
1.5
50 1
0.5
0 0
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seem to indicate an anomaly also, apart from the tripping gas stopped between October 21st and
November 7th. When I have looked in to the theory of stripping gas, it is only to further purify the
glycol and should not have a direct impact on the chemical property as we have seen during that
period where glycol become more acidic going out of the specs and should not have a direct impact
on the glycol loss through the condenser on the boiler
When I have looked in detail on a monthly basis, I could relate some peaks and troughs with
glycol pump switching from A to B and vice versa, in September related to pump leak reasons and
ESD shut down
250 B gp job
A to B
200 A to B
A to B
Glycol top up
150
pump change
glycol loss
100 B to A
Stripping gas
50 B to A
0
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for the following months also, in a lesser extent.
measured mump glycol loss
Glycol heater A stop due to maintenance 2 hours
140 and 137 ml/hour
Pump B repair aprox 3.5 L/day Unblock tripping gas Glycol heater B stop due to maintenance 9 hours
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50 No Stripping Gas
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End of October and beginning of November stripping gas was stop the see the impact on the
glycol loss. During the trial glycol loss was observed to be reduced. But even though reduction in loss
was observed the loss volume was not stable. Ranging from 75 to +200 Lt a day with an average of
121 Lt
Mid November had the only stable period of glycol loss between 13 to 22nd but at a +/‐ 175Lt
a day rate. But oddly enough this relatively stable period starts with re starting the glycol system due
to faulty reading on LT4760‐3 which is used to monitor the glycol level and to calculate the glycol
TEG F/R Stripping G Re start Adjust stripping Adjust stripping
B2A A2B 2.3 to 2.0 50 to 62 glycol system gas 6o m3/hr gas 6o m3/hr
GP leak B repaired m3/hr m3/hr LT4760‐3 faulty inc. P dec .P
reading Contactor: LIC‐2435‐1 problematic...
waiting on parts
275
250 LT4760‐3 faulty corrected on the 22nd
225
Glycol contactor glycol reboiler
200 level alarms B stopped
175
150 glycol loss (lt)
125
strip gas m3/h
100
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50 NO STRIPPING GAS
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loss. The same component was diagnosed faulty on Nov 19th and changed on the 22nd. Later in
November it was found out that on the Glycol Contactor, the LIC‐2435‐1 the controller for LV‐2435‐1
was problematic and was changed on December the 10th on the day the process was upset due to
ESD3 @ TVBN.
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30 Contactor: LIC‐2435‐1 changed for
20 V‐2435 controler.
10
0 Also LI‐2435 changed on DEC 11th
For my understanding if we have a glycol leak through the glycol regeneration system (boiler,
still and condenser) it should be pretty constant, as the heat input is the same fluid properties is the
same so the evaporation should be the same. With the same token if the reflux condenser, still
column parameters are the same our los should be constant also! (Glycol loss vs time graph above,
still column and reflux condenser temperatures graph below). But the data for glycol is all scattered.
Which suggest we have another loss point that we need to look into
Bearing this in my mind I have also looked in to the data of the glycol contactor and some
other equipment and parameters.
Glycol Pump: running glycol pumps (top graph orange shades), glycol flow rate (black) and temperature (red).
Still column and reflux condenser temperatures are stable; there is a variation of top boiler
temp TI4760-7 which is somewhat associated with the glycol volume in the tank. Glycol level
recording is generally in a wide band, except for mid to end November. The wide recording band can
be due to a faulty transmitter!
Still column (black), Boiler top (red), reflux (green), and glycol level (grey)
I have also looked in to Gas dehydration in the glycol contactor as it is another possible loss area
The wet gas and the lean glycol in to the glycol contactor, from what I have read needs to have a
delta T of 5 to 15F to have the best interaction, which is what we have. This can be seen on the below
graph.
When I look in to the process flow diagram a glycol carry over with the gas flow is fore seen
thus a glycol coalescer is present. Below is the fluid glycol level within the coalescer… Black is LI
2445-4 for the bottom half and the Red is LI 2445-3 for the top half. The top half indicator is negative,
no glycol, bottom half indicator is between 2% to negative.
The two main valves SDV-2445-1 and SDV-2445-2 are and have been permanently closed in
as no glycol ever is present in the coalescer!. My question is; why don’t we have any glycol carry over
In to the coalescer?. And if we have why can’t we contain it in the coalescer?
We have and are all focusing on the re-boiler unit for the main glycol loss, a little high but
stable reflux condenser should be able to condense the glycol, if not keep it at a constant loss (we
shouldn’t see sharp peeks), which is not our case, when we look at the glycol loss in global. I think
and assume that we would have a close to a constant loss from the reflux condenser with the stable
parameters even if not the ideal ones. Again I don’t think stripping gas will have a big affect also as its
main purpose is to further purify the glycol not to cause a loss.
Coming back to the Glycol contactor, there are a couple parameters that can affect the
process and can contribute to a high glycol carry over to the glycol coalescer and even to the gas pipe
line. The wet gas inlet temperature and the delta temperature between the wet gas and the lean glycol
coming in to the glycol contactor are within specs. But currently the gas flow through the contactor
and the coalescer are higher than design spec (176.3MMSCFD including 10% design margin, for
contactor & 160MMSCFD and normal operation volume 152MMSCFD for the coalescer). From
reading I have found out that glycol foaming is one of the contributor to glycol loss and it is a function
of the ratio of gas velocity to glycol recirculation flow with on the glycol contactor, the higher the gas
velocity and the lower the glycol re-circulation, the larger the foam. We might be having this
problem…
“Mist eliminators, multi cyclones and coalescer filters are highly effective in removing glycol
mist BUT have limited effect when film flow or foam is present in the system”.
- If the mist eliminator is not working efficiently (fouled) on the contactor, glycol will be entrained
out of the contactor.
- Foam flooding the mist eliminator will be carried over.
In our case: NO glycol in Glycol Coalescer, either system is working perfect and no loss from here
or whatever passes over is a loss. At present we don’t and in the past we have not done foam or
pH treatment that I have found out by asking.
Some facts:
1) Glycol pH>9 has a tendency to foam and emulsify. In our system currently we don’t have pH
control and the pH varies. During the stripping gas “shut in” period the pH was <7 and glycol
loss was lover compared to current days where glycol pH is >8 close to 9 and we have higher
glycol loss.
2) High gas volume, with close or exceeding gas flow rates compared to the design, combined
with relatively lower glycol flow can cause foaming.
As I understand we have not looked on to this side of the glycol system, may be due to the fact that
no glycol is ever present in the coalescer… or is it all carried over.
On the following pages I have summarized some causes of glycol losses of which I have read
along with some reference information and data from tech. specs.
GLYCOL
1. GLYCOL LOSS
2. FOAMING (contributes to glycol loss)
3. THERMAL DECOMPOSITION OF GLYCOL (contributes to glycol loss)
4. DEW POINT CONTROL
5. GLYCOL pH CONTROL (High pH (>9) contributes to glycol loss
6. SALT CONTAMINATION
7. GLYCOL OXIDATION
8. SLUDGE FORMATION
GLYCOL LOSS:
A. The Contactor
B. The Re-Generator
C. The mechanical losses
In this case, glycol mist will not be effectively separated and will be entrained out of the glycol
contactor. Foaming may also be caused by fouling of the mist eliminator.
Also;
- High gas velocity through the glycol contactor will cause carryover of glycol into the
pipeline
- poor mist eliminator (mist extractor) on top of the glycol contactor will pass some glycol
even at normal gas velocity
b. Foaming.
Foam floods the mist eliminator and it is not effectively removed. Foam carried out of the system is
normally not converted into mist but results in a bottom or annular flow, depending on the linear flow
velocity of the gas. The volume of foam formed in the glycol contactor is a function of the ratio of gas
velocity to glycol recirculation flow. The higher the gas velocity and the lower the glycol recirculation
flow, the larger the foam volume formed in the glycol contactor. Foaming of Glycol can increase glycol
loss where the entrained glycol within the gas will carry over from the contactor (absorber) in to the
gas line.
Some factors that can cause foaming are;
- If the temperature of the wet gas is around 60°C or above, the natural gas does not want
to give up the water vapor to the glycol. Or, if the natural gas temperature is 5°C or below,
the glycol becomes viscous and does not want to pick-up the water vapor. The best
results will be obtained between 27 and 43°F. The temperature of the lean glycol entering
the top tray of the contactor tower should be 5 to 10 °C above the temperature of the gas
to be treated. If the glycol temperature is much higher than the gas temperature, the
glycol will tend to foam and be carried out of the contactor tower with the gas.
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• Stripping Gas: Stripping gas may be used to obtain higher glycol purities to help lower glycol circulation rates.
Operating Temperatures:
Glycol CPP Glycol
Parameter Rich lean
pH 7.0 – 8.6 7.0 – 8.6
Chlorides <600 <600
(mg/L)
Hydrocarbon <0.3 <.03
(wt%)
Iron (mg/L) 3.5 – 7.5 <1.5
Suspended <200 <200
solids (mg/L)
Foaming Foam height 10 – 20ml
tendency Break time 5 sec
pH usually lover on rich glycol due to acid‐gas content
Difference between lean and rich glycol water contents should be 2‐6%
Glycol loss before during and after stopping the stripping gas
17 days before stop stripping gas 17 days after stop stripping gas
were out 23‐Nov‐12
7‐Nov‐12 6.03 6.23 4.37 10.61 24‐Nov‐12
of spec.
25‐Nov‐12
26‐Nov‐12