HI

We are using Variant Configuration for our semi finished product and
its
batch managed.There are two plants in one plant say A and B. In A
plant
we are using Variant configuration.The same material is stock
transferred
to plant B and is further processed.

We are creating CIR in plant B. After taking MRP run we are

converting
planned order to purchase requisition and subsequently Stock transfer
purchase order on Plant A. When the material is produced in plant A,it
is
transferred to plant B on stock transfer order mentioned above. But the
material is against CIR in plant B. We remove the material from CIR
through 411E movement and system keep it as free stock in
unrestricted.

Now when i am consuming this material for further processing in

production order of Material getting manufactured system is asking me
for
Variant Characteristics.

System should not ask me variant characteristics once it has been

removed
from CIR i.e. special stock.

Any Work around avilable.

Regards,
Anand.

Rachel Re: Consuming   Reply

Tang  Material
Having Variant
Posts: 142  Configuration   
Registered: 4/4/08 
Forum Points: 374 Posted: Apr 1,
  2010 11:22 AM
 in response
to: Anand Joshi
Dear Anand,

I think you have reported a same issue in CSS message, but I would
 like also to guide you here.
Actually, I am not quite sure what is the CIR you are talking about, is
it customer independent requirement?
Let me explain your issue with my understanding.
1. You create CIR or any other thing like a requirement in plant B, if
your are createing a requirement for a configurable material, then you
should have configured the material in the requirement, that means
when you run MRP, you will get a planned order with the same
configure module in the requirement, then when you convert the
planned order into a stock transfer PR, the configure module will be
transfered to the PR too, finally, you convert the stock transfer PR to a
stock transfer PO and the stock transfer PO will generate a
requirement in plant A with the same configure module too.
2. You produce the material in plant A with that configure module and
transfer it back to plant B.
3. As the material stock transfered from plant A is only for that
certaion CIR, so it is in the special stock, but you use 411E to move it
from special stock to unristricted used stock.
4. You are producing the finish product which need this semi-finish
product as a component, and you want to use that unristricted stock
which is moved from the special stock, but the system requires you to
configure the semi-finish product when you want to use it for other
requirement.

If my understanding is correct, then I think the system may perform

correctly, because when you try to use the stock of a configurable
material, you need to make sure the configure module is the same
between the requirement and the stock, so if you try to do the goods
issue in one of the MM transaction, if it can't find the source configure
module in the requirement, then it will require you to enter the
characteristic to make sure they are same.
But actually if you are using configurable material, it should be
produced with make-to-order scenario as there is no meaning to have
unristricted use stock for a configurable material, if you do want to
have stock, then please create materail variant for the configurable
material.

Regards,
Rachel

Anand Re: Consuming   Reply

Joshi Material Having
Variant
Posts: 311  Configuration   
Registered: 10/10/07  Posted: Apr 1, 2010
Forum Points: 206 11:44 AM     in
  response to: Rachel
Tang

Sir,

One of my Plant say A is supplying material to B. In Plant A that

material is Configurable and if Plant B suppose to raise the
requirement
or give the requirement then that has to be through Stock transfer
Order.
Now My stock transfer order can not be a cost element for loading the
cost of production.But the material is configurable so it should have
some cost element like sales order or Customer Independent
Requirement(CIR).

One more thing in plant B that material is attached to particular

Customer independent Requirement(CIR). Now in Plant B the material
i am
producing is not configurable or Make to Order . It is make to stock, in
that case system will not accept special stock attached to that CIR for
consumption. We have removed the stock from CIR, that time system
is not
asking me for any Variant Characteristics then at the time of
consumption
also system should not ask Variant characteristics or CIR as cost
object
i.e. (for eg.sales order item object).

Regards,
Anand.

Rachel Re: Consuming   Reply

Tang  Material Having
Variant
Posts: 142  Configuration     
Registered: 4/4/08 
Forum Points: 374 Posted: Apr 2,
  2010 10:25 AM
 in response
to: Anand Joshi
Hi Anand,

Finally, I could understand your issue from your CSS message. 

In your description, AA is configurable material in both plant A and
plant B, BB is not a configurable material in plant B, AA is a
component of material BB, so when you produce BB, there will be
dependent requirement generated for AA from BB, now you want to
use the stock of AA to fullfill the dependent requirement, however, the
system will require you to enter the characteristic at that time.

Then where is the stock of AA comes from? I have mentioned this in

my previous reply. But as I have mentioned it is not correct to have
unristricted stock for the configurable material, therefore, your process
to have free stock of AA is not correct.
Another point is that, your process to have configurable material as a
component of a non-configurable material is also not proper.

For example, material BB is a Car, material AA is the Door of the Car,

your Car is not configurable, but the Door is configurable, you may
have green door and red door according to the configuration, but as
your car is a firmed material then what's the meaning to have different
door, if you want to have different door, then that means you also need
to have different color of the car, like green door for green car, red
door for red car, then that means your car should be also a
configurable material to make you can select the color of the car too.

Or if your Car is a firmed material as green car, then do you think

there is any meaning to configure the door of the car? Unless you do
want a red door for a green car, but this can also be realized with a
configurable car.
So normally, like your situation, you should use multi-level
configuration structure to do the production in make to order scenario.

Therefore, still the problem has been described in my previous reply,

no matter how you get the stock of AA, the AA is produced with the
configured configuration module, so the stock of AA is also with the
configuration data, then no matter how you want to consume the stock
of AA, system will always ask for the characteristic of the requirement
to compare it with the stock configuration to see if they are same.
For example, you are producing your Car, but as far as I can see you
should have no place to configure the door in production order,
therefore when you try to consume the door, the system will of course
need to know which color you want, because if you want red door but
there is only stock of green door, then how the system should do in
your opinion?

Then finially, the best way of solving your issue is to have material
variant for the configurable material, like the door, you may have
material variant as green door and red door, if your firmed Car is green
car, then you can use green door as the firmed component, if your
firmed Car is red car, then you can use red door as the firmed
component, also when you do the production, you could simply
 produce the green door directly without configure the door, because
the material variant is a stockable item but the configurable material is
not, then your scenario would be very simple and there will no such
problem any more.

If you do still want to keep your scenario, but don't want the system
requires you enter the charateristics, then you may have to do the
modification of the goods movement transaction to disable that, but it
may lead to the inconsistency situation, like actually you want red
door, but what you have in stock is green door, without that, you may
consume the green door stock for the red door requirement, then it will
mess up all the following process.

Also as you are doing the goods movement in MM transaction, so if

there is user-exit could be used to change this behavior is decided by
MM function, however, base on my checking there will be no such
user-exit to control this behavior at MM side, because the consequnce
is really dangerous for the system operation.

Therefore, I think the best way for you is still adjust your production
scenario to make your production standard, then SAP system will
accept that standard production scenario under your requirement.

Thanks and regards,

Rachel

  Reply
How to
consider
the
stocks
of other
plants
in MRP
run   
Posted:
Feb 28,
2011
11:55 AM

Hello All,

I have a requirement in which A finished material which it´s planning and production is on PLANT 1
and and is transfered to plant 2 (there is no production and no planning on this plant, it is used for
storage only). In that case, I would like the MRP to check the stock of finished material both in plant 1
and 2 for creating planned orders .

I know this can be possible with APO . but is there any other way round we can do this like MRP area
or scope of planning or some z developemenmts.

Thanks in advance

Regards
Anupam Sharma

kvkumar_77 Re: How   Reply

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Registered: 10/11/10  the stocks
Forum Points: 48 of other
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Posted: Feb
28, 2011
2:03 PM     
in response
to: anupa
m sharma

Do the planning run in the Storage plant. If stock is there it won't create any
procurement proposals. Maintian special procurement in storage plant as
manufacturing plant. Now system will check the stock at manufaturing
plant. based on the stocks at both plants it will create procurement
proposals. 

Hope this helps you. check and revert.

Dogboy49  Re: How   Reply

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 Posted: Feb
28, 2011
2:13 PM     
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to: anupa
m sharma

Anupam
"there is no production and no planning on this plant"

1. When you exclude planning in a plant, it is not relevant for MRP. Without
MRP, you will have to use a customized (non-standard) solution to meet
your requirements.
2. MRP in R/3 is generally plant based. You can use Special Procurement
(such as Stock Transport orders) to send shortage information from the first
plant to the second plant. In the second plant, MRP could then run,
and effectively give you a net shortage between the two plants. Inherent in
this workaround is that planning must be set up in both plants.

For MRP heuristics to work in APO, you also have to have planning
configured.

If you are unwilling to set up planning in the second plant, then you are
facing a customized solution (enhancements).
If you are willing to set up planning in the second plant, then there is
no exact solution to your business requirement in standard SAP, but there
are solutions that may be good enough.

Best Regards,
DB49

anupam Re: How to   Reply

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the stocks
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Posted: Mar 1,
2011 5:18 AM
 
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 Thanks DB49

There is BAdi.MD_CHANGE_MRP_DATA and method

CHANGE_MDPSX_MARD can be used some how in order to include stock of
that plant in the plant for which mrp is to be run . also if i make that plant
also to be relevant for planning thenhow it can be achieved with special
procurement key 40 or scope of planning or some other development

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Anupam Sharma

Edited by: anupam sharma on Mar 1, 2011 9:54 AM

ayethebing  Re: How   Reply

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Posted: Mar
1, 2011 6:36
AM     in
response
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m sharma

Is there any stock at production plant? Where does the goods issue to sales
occur?

If both plants can have stock and sales can occurs in both plants then it is
the issue not only stock but also sales order consumption with planned
independent requirement. You need to have two BADI to do so. First is the
one you mentioned and the flexible PIR also (MD_PIR_FLEX_CONS).

If only storage plant has stock and sales occurs here, then you may want to
explore special procurement type produce in other plant and make storage
plant a planning plant. The receipt of production order at production plant
will posted into storage plant directly.

If sales occurs in storage plants, and there are stock in both plant, use
special procurement type transfer from others (40 as standard). When you
run MRP, the system will check stock at storage plant first, then if shortage,
create stock transfer request to production plant. At production plant, the
stock transfer request will be your demand to offset with stock there before
create planned order.

Like other comments stated previously, SAP cannot handle the multiple
plants planning very well.