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ﺇﻥ ﺍﳊﻤﺪ ﷲ ،ﳓﻤﺪﻩ ﻭﻧﺴﺘﻌﻴﻨﻪ ﻭﻧﺴﺘﻐﻔﺮﻩ ،ﻭﻧﻌﻮﺫ ﺑﺎﷲ ﻣﻦ ﺷﺮﻭﺭ ﺃﻧﻔﺴﻨﺎ ﻭﻣﻦ ﺳﻴﺌﺎﺕ ﺃﻋﻤﺎﻟﻨﺎ ،ﻣﻦ ﻳﻬﺪﻩ ﺍﷲ ﻓﻼ ﻣﻀﻞ ﻟﻪ،
ﻳﺎ ﺃﹶﻳﻬﺎ ﺍﻟﱠﺬﻳﻦ ﺁﻣﻨﻮﺍ ﺍﺗﻘﹸﻮﺍ ﺍﻟﻠﱠﻪ ﻭﻣﻦ ﻳﻀﻠﻞ ﻓﻼ ﻫﺎﺩﻱ ﻟﻪ .ﻭﺃﺷﻬﺪ ﺃﻥ ﻻ ﺇﻟﻪ ﺇﻻ ﺍﷲ ﻭﺣﺪﻩ ﻻ ﺷﺮﻳﻚ ﻟﻪ ،ﻭﺃﺷﻬﺪ ﺃﻥ ﳏﻤﺪﺍﹰ ﻋﺒﺪﻩ ﻭﺭﺳﻮﻟﻪ.
ﻳﺎ ﺃﹶﻳﻬﺎ ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺱ ﺍﺗﻘﹸﻮﺍ ﺭﺑﻜﹸﻢ ﺍﻟﱠﺬﻱ ﺧﻠﹶﻘﹶﻜﹸﻢ ﻣﻦ ﻧﻔﹾﺲﹴ ﻭﺍﺣﺪﺓ ﻭﺧﻠﹶﻖ ﻣﻨﻬﺎ ]ﺁﻝ ﻋﻤﺮﺍﻥ. [102: ﺣﻖ ﺗﻘﹶﺎﺗﻪ ﻭﻻ ﺗﻤﻮﺗﻦ ﺇﹺﻟﱠﺎ ﻭﺃﹶﻧﺘﻢ ﻣﺴﻠﻤﻮﻥﹶ
ﻳﺎ ﺃﹶﻳﻬﺎ ]ﺍﻟﻨﺴﺎﺀ. [1: ﺚ ﻣﻨﻬﻤﺎ ﺭﹺﺟﺎﻻﹰ ﻛﹶﺜﲑﺍﹰ ﻭﻧﹺﺴﺎﺀً ﻭﺍﺗﻘﹸﻮﺍ ﺍﻟﻠﱠﻪ ﺍﻟﱠﺬﻱ ﺗﺴﺎﺀَﻟﹸﻮﻥﹶ ﺑﹺﻪ ﻭﺍﻟﹾﺄﹶﺭﺣﺎﻡ ﹺﺇﻥﱠ ﺍﻟ ﱠﻠﻪ ﻛﹶﺎﻥﹶ ﻋﻠﹶﻴﻜﹸﻢ ﺭﻗﻴﺒﺎﹰ
ﺯﻭﺟﻬﺎ ﻭﺑ ﱠ
ﺍﻟﱠﺬﻳﻦ ﺁﻣﻨﻮﺍ ﺍﺗﻘﹸﻮﺍ ﺍﻟﻠﱠﻪ ﻭﻗﹸﻮﻟﹸﻮﺍ ﻗﹶﻮﻻﹰ ﺳﺪﻳﺪﺍﹰ * ﻳﺼﻠﺢ ﻟﹶﻜﹸﻢ ﺃﹶﻋﻤﺎﻟﹶﻜﹸﻢ ﻭﻳﻐﻔﺮ ﻟﹶﻜﹸﻢ ﺫﹸﻧﻮﺑﻜﹸﻢ ﻭﻣﻦ ﻳﻄﻊﹺ ﺍﻟﻠﱠﻪ ﻭﺭﺳﻮﻟﹶﻪ ﻓﹶﻘﹶ ﺪ ﻓﹶﺎﺯ ﻓﹶﻮﺯﺍﹰ ﻋﻈﻴﻤﺎﹰ
]ﺍﻷﺣﺰﺍﺏ . [71-70:ﺃﻣﺎ ﺑﻌﺪ :ﻓﺈﻥ ﺧﲑ ﺍﻟﻜﻼﻡ ﻛﻼﻡ ﺍﷲ ،ﻭﺧﲑ ﺍﳍﺪﻱ ﻫﺪﻱ ﳏﻤﺪ ﺻﻠﻰ ﺍﷲ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﺁﻟﻪ ﻭﺳﻠﻢ ،ﻭﺷﺮ ﺍﻷﻣﻮﺭ
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ﳏﺪﺛﺎﺎ ،ﻭﻛﻞ ﳏﺪﺛﺔ ﺑﺪﻋﺔ ،ﻭﻛﻞ ﺑﺪﻋﺔ ﺿﻼﻟﺔ ،ﻭﻛﻞ ﺿﻼﻟﺔ ﰲ ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺭ.
Al-Imaam ash-Shawkaani, may Allah have mercy upon him, said in the Tafseer of the ayah
above:
“In it (i.e. the ayah) is a proof that it is not permissible for anyone to argue for any one else
until he possesses knowledge that he is upon the Haqq (truth).” 3
"Lo! You are those who have argued for them in the life of this world, but who will argue
for them on the Day of Resurrection against Allah, or who will then be their defender?”4
http://aloloom.net/vb/showthread.php?t=7365
Shaykh Rabee’s old praise for Ubayd al-Jaabiree which Spubs distributed and in which they
left off the newer statements concerning him:
http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=32&Topic=11862
Al-Imaam Abu Qilaabah Abdullah bin Zayd al-Jarmee, may Allah have mercy upon him, said: “The
people of innovation take that which is for them and leave off that which is against them”.
Al-Imaam al-Waki’ee bin Jarraah, may Allah have mercy upon him, said: “The people of the sunnah
narrate that which is for them and that which is against them and the people of innovations
(only) narrate that which is for them”.
But however Spubs did not stop at that, rather they went on to comment:
This statement of yours is completely deceptive and misleading as it is from your habits to do
so, after some of the members on your forum differed regarding what the exact date of the
praise of Shaykh Rabee’ was, you have the gall to come along with an unclear and deceptive
statement in order to mislead the people to think other than what was mentioned regarding its
date and if what I say is not true then prove to us with a clear statement with proof otherwise.
This is from the pillars of Hizbiyyah as it was mentioned by ash-Shaykh Muqbil bin Hadee al-
Waadi’ee (may Alläh have mercy on him) in his treatise "Ahkämu-Tasweer" (Rulings of pictures)
(page 5):
“The pillars of Hizbiyyah (partisanship) are three:
1. Lying (al-Kadhib)
2. Deception (at-Tadlees)
3. Deceit (al-Khidä')
“And mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth while you know (the truth)” (Al-
Baqarah 2:42)
Spubs said:
So here you have rejected and denied the narrations of Shaykh Rabee’ that indicates his
displeasure of the awful stance of Ubayd al-Jäbiree in this Fitnah , let me ask, why do you
reject and deny the narrations of trustworthy narrators, is it because your fanaticism for Ubayd
al-Jäbiree has lead you to deny that which is true?
Shaykhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah, may Allah have mercy upon him, said:
"Whoever knows of the truth but however he rejects it out of fanaticism for their Imaams then
they are not to be excused and they are as Allah has said regarding them:
"We found our fathers following a certain way and religion, and we guide ourselves by
their footsteps." (43/22).6
"walillaahil-hamd."
So you praise Alläh that ash-Shaykh Rabee' did not speak ill of Ubayd al-Jaabiree as you claim,
why is that? Is it because Ubayd al-Jäbiree gives you the fatwa that coincides with your desires
and acknowledges your deviation or is it based upon so called love for Ubayd al-Jäbiree? If so
then ash-Shaykh Säalih al-Fawzaan was asked the following question:
Q: What is the ruling on someone who loves a scholar or a caller and says: I love him very
much; I don’t want to hear about anyone refuting him...
A: This is Ta’asub (fanaticism), which is detested and condemned, and it is not permissible...We
must know this. Furthermore, we do not conceal the error out of our love for such and such
individual. Rather it is upon us to expose and clarify the error. The Prophet (sallAllähu 'alayhi
wa sallam) said: The Religion is Sincerity. We said: To whom? He (sallAllähu 'alayhi wa sallam)
said:To Alläh, to His Book, to His Messenger, the Muslim leaders and their common folk.
Clarifying the error falls under Sincerity to everyone. But as for concealing the error, then this
is in opposition to the Sincerity.7
(ﲑﺍﹰﺼﻻﹶ ﻧﺎﹰ ﻭﻴﻟ ﻭ ﺍﻟﻠﹼﻪﻭﻥﻦ ﺩ ﻣ ﻟﹶﻪﺠﹺﺪﻻﹶ ﻳ ﻭ ﺑﹺﻪﺰﺠﻮﺀﺍﹰ ﻳﻞﹾ ﺳﻤﻌﻦ ﻳﺎﺏﹺ ﻣﺘﻞﹺ ﺍﻟﹾﻜﺎﻧﹺﻲﹺّ ﺃﹶﻫﻻ ﺃﹶﻣ ﻭﺎﻧﹺﻴﹺّﻜﹸﻢ ﺑﹺﺄﹶﻣﺲ)ﻟﹶّﻴ
"It will not be in accordance with your desires (Muslims), nor those of the people of the
Scripture (Jews and Christians), whosoever works evil, will have the recompense thereof,
and he will not find any protector or helper besides Allah” (4/122)
Spubs said:
As has been proven previously that you brothers are contradictive in that which you narrate,
so we can not accept your narrations except from trustworthy individuals who are accurate in
"follow those who ask no wages of you (for themselves), and who are rightly guided”
(36/21).
()ﻭﻻ ﺗﺘﺒﻌﻮﺍ ﺃﻫﻮﺍﺀ ﻗﻮﻡ ﻗﺪ ﺿﻠﻮﺍ ﻣﻦ ﻗﺒﻞ ﻭﺃﺿﻠﻮﺍ ﻛﺜﲑﺍ ﻭﺿﻠﻮﺍ ﻋﻦ ﺳﻮﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﺴﺒﻴﻞ
“And do not follow the vain desires of people who went astray in times gone by, and who
misled many and strayed (themselves) from the Right Path.”(5/77)
Spubs said:
I ask, who do you intend by this statement? If you brothers intend by this statement
yourselves then your narration is rejected due to what has proceeded and that which you have
narrated on Shaykh Rabee’ that he has never spoken about Ubayd al-Jäbiree except in good is
in opposition to the narrations of trustworthy individuals who have narrated the opposite of
what you have narrated and as the saying goes "The one affirming something has an increase
of knowledge from the one who negates something. So their narration is to be given
precedence over your narration"
8 Na’am ,yes you brothers do beg the people even if some of you claim on your Eid khutbah: “do you see Abu khadeejah
asking for himself do you see so and so asking for themselves…”. Changing the name of things doesn’t change its reality Ya
Mulabbis, deceptive one! Do you not beg the people for their money in order to pay off the wear and tear of your seven seater
along with the petrol of your car?!!! To the extent that if you are not given your pounds in accordance to the mile rate then NO
LECTURE?!!! Or how about brothers having to feel that there in debt with you when they call you for a lecture and cannot
afford your extortionate rates and thereafter have to pay you the remainder next time??? Or how about everyone being told
that the doors of ‘Masjid As-Salafi’ in Birmingham (‘Daar Al-Hijrah’) will be closed and that everyone has to give?? Or when
you demand brothers after your lecture to give twenty pounds each??? All of this and you do not beg? Ajeeb, very strange!!!
You must leave off this deception.
And if you intend that there was nothing presented to show that Ubayd al-Jäbiree opposes the
truth then you have lied and opposed the reality. 9
Spubs said:
I Advise you brothers not speak about that which you have no knowledge of, Allah; The Most
High has said in his noble book:
{ } ﻭﻻ ﺗﻘﻒ ﻣﺎ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﻚ ﺑﻪ ﻋﻠﻢ ﺇﻥ ﺍﻟﺴﻤﻊ ﻭﺍﻟﺒﺼﺮ ﻭﺍﻟﻔﺆﺍﺩ ﻛﻞ ﺃﻭﻟﺌﻚ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻋﻨﻪ ﻣﺴﺌﻮﻻ
"And follow not (O man i.e., say not, or do not or witness not, etc.) that of which you have
no knowledge. Verily! The hearing, and the sight, and the heart, of each of those you will be
questioned (by Allah)" (17/36)
Spubs said:
So is this the reason you have rejected Shaykh Yahya’s detail criticism due to him being an
aalim of old age teaching for a long time and due to him defending the People of the Sunnah
previously?
If so then this reason leads us all to cling to the rest of the deviants who are scholars of old age
and who have been teaching for decades and previously known to defend the Sunnah.
Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah said: You should not look at what the person used to do,
rather you should look at what kind of person they are today. The one who gets bogged down
9 Check the link below you find that which you denied http: http://aloloom.net/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=46
about people's pasts is just like Iblees who said to Allaah, "You created me from fire and you
created him from clay" [al-Minhaaj volume 2, page 430] 10
I advise our brothers and sisters not to follow Spubs in these statements of theirs, that which is
built upon emotions and desires.
“And follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you”
(5/48)
Spubs said:
So because of the number of those praising him are not decreasing and because they outweigh
the criticism against Ubayd we can not accept Shaykh Yahya's detail jarh against Ubayd? This is
from the principle of ‘Alee al-Halabee and those before him who have deviated, that which
you have denied to follow as you have previously claimed.
Ash-Shaykh Rabee', may Allah preserve him, was asked the following question:
Q: Some scholars have declared a person to be an innovator while others have not. If some of
the students follow those scholars that did not declare that person an innovator, is it
permissible for me to reprimand him?
Answer: This is from the Fitan (trials) that are present now. This is from the Fitan that are
present in this time amongst the people and it has lengthened. With the knowledge that many
of that youth know the truth. May Allaah bless you, and consensus is not a condition for
declaring someone an innovator or criticizing him. Rather it is enough for the statement of one
person in jarh wat tadeel. So if a group of people criticized and declared him to be an
innovator then that is sufficient for the Muslim who is seeking the truth. It is sufficient.
As for a person of desires nothing suffices him and he hangs on to spider webs. So there are
Spubs said:
If you brothers have perfected your studies of science of hadeeth, you will come to know this is
not an excuse to reject the proofs and evidences brought forward against Ubayd al-Jäbiree.
These excuses of yours that you used to reject the detail Jarh against Ubayd al-Jaabiree are just
pathetic; this argument of yours is futile due to it being an argument built upon opposing the
truth. Allah, The Most High, said in rebuking those that rejected the truth:
" Disputing with you concerning the truth after it was made manifest, as if they were being
driven to death, while they were looking (at it)" (8/6)
Spubs said:
Then they try to mislead the people with past and present, as you can notice they said:
“praised” not praise then they say defend not defended, deception, deception, deception!
Spubs here are using the differences of opinion of the scholars regarding the condition of
Ubayd al-Jaabiree as a proof not to accept what was brought forward against him of detail
disparagement, this is absolute ignorance.
AI-Imaam Ibn ‘Abdul Barr, may Allah have mercy upon him, said:
"No one uses the differences of opinion (of the scholars) as proof except the ignorant…"
Spubs said:
So is giving fatwa of elections and warning from Damaaj and speaking ill of Salafi Shuyookh
and dividing the salafis in Yemen and defending the Hizbiyyoon in Yemen from the Usool and
Manhaj of Salafiyyah?
No rather we encourage the Salafis around the world not to benefit from deviants and that
they should make du'aa that Alläh protects them from their evil; Oh Alläh protects us from the
evil of the deviant Ubayd al-Jäbiree and the remainder of evil deviants.
Spubs said:
You have praised Ubayd al-Jäbiree over the proofs and evidence which could lead to praising
an individual over Alläh.
Advice:
It is obligatory upon the brothers at Spubs to return to the truth and accept it and write a
similar post showing their return to the way of the Salaf because returning to the truth is a
virtue.
As it been said:
“And speak the truth even if it is against yourselves” and “say the truth even if it is bitter” and
to return back to the truth is better than continuing upon falsehood, and Ahlus-Sunnah past
and present accept the truth and return to it, and this is counted amongst their virtues, and a
sign of their Knowledge and their Fear of Alläh.
Umar ibn Al-Khattab (radiyAllähu anhu) said: “Let not your judgment (verdict) of today
prevent you from backing up from your opinion and returning to the truth, for verily the truth
is since ever and nothing falsifies it and returning back to the truth is better than continuing
upon falsehood”
The advice is more precious than of what is being sold and being given as a gift
I ask Alläh to grant success (Tawfeeq) to these brothers to return back to the truth and accept
it. And may the Peace and Blessings be upon Alläh’s Messenger, his Companions and those
who follow them upon righteousness till the Day of Qiyaamah.
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