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Mon May 23 19:32:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72746643329523713 - #3
@ColinTGraham Today's topic is: "What does or should a student maths journal look
like?" #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:32:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72746838737944576 - #5
@Janshs hello it's #Mathchat and #EdLdrs and Chelsea on telly aaarrgghh
Mon May 23 19:33:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72746940835704833 - #6
@mathsatschool #mathchat would love to join this one (great topic) but Charlie Bone
needs reading :-(
Mon May 23 19:33:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747107940970496 - #8
@Janshs RT @ColinTGraham: Today's topic is: "What does or should a student maths
journal look like?" #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:33:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747111556456448 - #10
@ColinTGraham Last time, we got a bit hung up on why journals were needed, and didn't
sort out too clearly who they were written for #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:34:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747151096168448
727471510961 - #11
@angierumsey I'm a third grade teacher thinking about using math journals next
year#mathchat
Mon May 23 19:35:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747411960901632 - #13
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@mathfour RT @ColinTGraham: Today's topic is: "What does or should a student maths
journal look like?" #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:35:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747524837998593 - #15
@ColinTGraham @padgets Hi Sharon. I know you use journals in Science. How are they
different from your lab books or are they? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:35:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747588780163072 - #16
@Janshs @ColinTGraham excellent question, LJ must help stdts reflect on their learning
but I do think it's important tchr can 'understand' #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:36:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747800152113152 - #17
@teachdig Hi #mathchat So I love the idea of math journels, but how do others
other keep up
with responding to them. With 2 math & 3 physics I find it hard.
Mon May 23 19:36:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747820481908736 - #18
@mathfour #mathchat I'd like to have my own math journal. Not sure what it is, though.
Mon May 23 19:37:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747913251524608 - #19
@padgets #mathchat well we use blogger to talk about current events, things at school
and what we have discovered the previous week in science
Mon May 23 19:37:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72747938450915328 - #20
@chris_1974 @teachdig mine are on VLE. I get email when updated. still early slow days.
#mathchat
Mon May 23 19:37:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72748037449072641 - #21
@Eduware_Inc Keeping math journals seems like a great way to keep kids active in their
learning experience. Has anyone tried an online version? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:38:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72748129195278336 - #23
@Janshs @chris_1974 love the idea of camera & video; I'd also like to get audio LJ going
soon #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:38:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72748151622213632 - #24
@angierumsey I'm thinking spiral with practice problems of math concepts so parents can
see progress and kids can look back for review #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:38:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72748359567425537 - #25
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@chris_1974 @Janshs #evernote.
#evernote. Job Done! You'll have to get for your
eyefone.#mathchat
Mon May 23 19:39:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72748484985503744 - #27
@ColinTGraham To help those who haven't used journals in maths before, how have
those of you who have get them started or use them? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:39:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72748628862709760 - #28
@mathfour #mathchat I did a type of math journal in grad school. Not sure if that's the
same as our topic, though.
Mon May 23 19:40:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72748822434025472 - #30
@padgets #mathchat different from our lab books as they are open ended, more opinion
than fact but based on the learning that has taken place
Mon May 23 19:42:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749150114033664 - #32
@Janshs @chris_1974 oh crikey I knew this tech stuff would get me in the end :-
:
)#mathchat
Mon May 23 19:42:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749186805809152 - #33
@ColinTGraham @chris_1974 How public are the journals? Can everyone in the year
group read them or just you and the individual student? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:42:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749203981484032 - #34
@padgets #mathchat as of right now our journals are private but am thinking with more
instruction they could be public next year
Mon May 23 19:43:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749418834698240 - #35
@chris_1974 @ColinTGraham just me and student at moment. Would like to work around
more public, but start small! #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:43:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749452498173952 - #36
@Eduware_Inc Has anyone used math journals with other technologies? We'd love to
hear how creative teachers are with this. #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:43:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749518709469184 - #37
@padgets #mathchat as I read them I get to know my students better, how they think how
they process things, they also get to know me
Mon May 23 19:43:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749611500048384 - #38
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@ColinTGraham @mathfour Well I see the journal as being like a diary, this is what I did,
this is what I learned, this is what I want to do #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:44:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749665623355392 - #40
@Eduware_Inc @padgets Do you think using twiducate and blogger helped your math
journal experience? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:45:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72749920364396545 - #42
@angierumsey @ColinTGraham I already have a writing journal. We are 1:1 and don't
use the writing journal as much. #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:46:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72750271343767552 - #46
@Janshs @chris_1974 @ColinTGraham I have used private, also within the class via wiki
or VLE, both work well but different ... #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:46:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72750304805920769 - #47
@ColinTGraham @chris_1974 @padgets I could see one role of teacher feedback being
to say to Ss: you should publish this on the class blog... #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:46:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72750343825530881 - #48
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@Eduware_Inc @padgets & @chris_1974 That's really interesting. How do your students
like being online? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:48:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72750682976960512 - #52
@padgets #mathchat @ColinTGraham we have used the wiki discussion board but did
not work as well as the others
Mon May 23 19:48:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72750757975293952 - #53
@padgets @Eduware_Inc #mathchat they love it because it is their world the hard
h part
was teaching them that is was not Facebook :)
Mon May 23 19:49:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72750932529647618 - #54
@padgets #mathchat When I showed them my blog, it was ok then, before it was
something they had not thought of doing
Mon May 23 19:50:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72751389243215872 - #57
@ColinTGraham What do you see as being the primary role of a journal in maths
lessons? as opposed to, say, blogs/other forms of writing #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:51:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72751542037516289 - #59
@teachdig @chris_1974 What is VLE? I think I should know this, but I don't. #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:52:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72751766625714177 - #62
@Janshs a sort of class LJ can be useful too; have sometimes got stdts to come & write
on IWB eg how do you add fractions? then another .. #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:52:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72751777988100096 - #63
@Janshs .... sdts comes up & answers - a bit like passing notes in class or a live stream
#mathchat
Mon May 23 19:53:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72751906384134144 - #64
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@ColinTGraham @teachdig A VLE is a Virtual Learning Environment, sometimes called
a School Management System... homework, schedules blogs etc. #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:53:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72752068280070144 - #65
@Eduware_Inc @Janshs Do you see this helping your students better understand the
material? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:53:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72752139956523008 - #66
@padgets @ColinTGraham #mathchat I do both, depends on the subject and how much
time we have
Mon May 23 19:55:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72752445666762753 - #68
@Janshs @Eduware_Inc I hope it makes them think about how they learn/solve
etc#mathchat
Mon May 23 19:57:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72753018914869248 - #71
@chris_1974 For me the journal is about the student having a record of learning or topics.
My comments just for help. #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:57:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72753083800752128 - #72
@ColinTGraham Something mentioned last time was that Ss got bored with having to
reflect at the end of each lesson. So how does the timing work? #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:57:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72753113282510848 - #73
@Janshs @ColinTGraham I think so, I like stdts to use LJ to record their thought
processes at the time as well as reflecting later #mathchat
Mon May 23 19:58:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72753234774736896 - #74
@padgets #mathchat well about to end the school day and start extra help period, take
care and tweet you all next time! :0)
Mon May 23 19:58:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72753298855305217 - #75
@Eduware_Inc Has anyone seen one way of math journals work better than others?
Online (public to the class) versus in print (more private)? #mathchat
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
Mon May 23 19:58:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72753402781769728 - #76
@ColinTGraham For those who have used LJs for some time, does each follow a
'structure' or open-ended
ended prompts/free-form?
prompts/free #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:01:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72753955028996097 - #80
@Janshs RT @ColinTGraham: For those who have used LJs for some time, does each
follow a 'structure' or open-ended
ended prompts/free-form?
prompts/free #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:01:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72754146457034752 - #81
@Janshs @ColinTGraham I think mainly freeform but with lots guidance (esp in
KS3)#mathchat
Mon May 23 20:02:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72754352221200384 - #82
@teachdig I have same Ss for math & sci grade 8... was thinking of 1 journal for both
topic. Use tags for sorting later? Yes/no? Pros/cons? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:03:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72754646376120322 - #84
@ColinTGraham @Janshs So you're talking here about early secondary (11+) Jan. How
do you introduce Ss to journals if they've never done them? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:04:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72754690814779392
727 - #85
@Eduware_Inc @teachdig It seems like a blog format would work best for what you're
trying to accomplish! #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:04:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72754890505601024 - #87
@ColinTGraham @teachdig If you have a physical book to write in, maybe separate, but
electronical journals could use tags for sorting/cross-ref
sorting/cross #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:05:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72754959195705345 - #88
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@teachdig @Eduware_Inc That is what I was thinking. We use Moodle at school, so I
could use that maybe though not in love with the format. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:05:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72755152012058624
72 - #89
@Janshs @ColinTGraham I mainly only teach Yr 11 nowadays but some remember that I
showed them the idea in lower sch; I actually often .....#mathchat
.....
Mon May 23 20:06:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72755417662492672 - #90
@Janshs @ColinTGraham ... set as a hw task to start with & sell it as 'easy' but then we
share & build etc. .... #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:07:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72755585954750466 - #92
@ColinTGraham @Janshs How long is it before Ss start seeing an impact on their own
learning, if they do? And do they evolve the format of the LJ #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:09:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72755961135239168 - #93
@Eduware_Inc @teachdig Would you make their online math journals accessible to all
students? For peer comments? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:09:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72756120015470593 - #95
@chris_1974 @ColinTGraham no, constructive comments and have you thoufht abouts.
#mathchat
Mon May 23 20:10:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72756281101926400 - #96
@Janshs @ColinTGraham it varies of course but they often react positively when I give
them examples & success stories #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:12:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72756700519735296 - #99
@teachdig @Janshs Even my 11th Ss would not find this an easy task since it is not their
1st language. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:12:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72756751237251072 - #100
@teachdig @Eduware_Inc I don't know. Probably not at the start. It would be something
to grow into maturity wise. #mathchat
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
Mon May 23 20:13:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72756948365361152 - #102
@ColinTGraham @chris_1974 Key point here, maybe, is to highlight that writing in the
journal is not the same as 'formal' presentations of maths. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:14:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72757345695965186 - #107
@ColinTGraham Good question. I think they aren't used nearly enough as they could be,
though. RT @Janshs: #mathchat is it only Maths that LJ is good for?
Mon May 23 20:15:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72757583408152576
7 - #109
@ColinTGraham @teachdig Maybe stagger reading, don't try to read a whole class every
time. Sometimes you can give 'too much' feedback! #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:17:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72757962871029760 - #110
@teachdig @ColinTGraham My other issue here would be to correct English or not since
all Ss EAL. Feel disservice not doing it. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:17:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72758157138599936
72758157138599 - #111
@teachdig In some ways I think the journal should be what the Ss use to explore ideas...
more self guided. How to get this to happen? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:19:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72758624337932288 - #114
@teachdig @ColinTGraham True but part of my role as one of their classes in Eng since
bilingual schl is Eng instruction. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:21:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72759113431531521 - #115
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@Sundayteatime #mathchat in an ideal world I'd like them to include maths they
th had
encountered in day to day life. I may start one of these myself.
Mon May 23 20:21:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72759196713615362 - #116
@ColinTGraham When you are giving guidance to newbies to LJ, how do you handle it
Jan? What types of examples do you provide? @Janshs #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:22:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72759383595028480 - #118
@chris_1974 @Sundayteatime I try to get Ss to write for the blog for that.Maybe taking
key bits of journal for the blog; publishing best bits? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:23:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72759585785643008 - #119
@Janshs @ColinTGraham ... to set page out a certain way to start with #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:25:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72759979706286080 - #123
@Janshs @ColinTGraham I also photocopy good ones and/or flash stuff from VLE up in
IWB (w/ permission of course) #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:25:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72760173877411840 - #124
@chris_1974 @ColinTGraham I agree with @Janshs. "Put this in your journal", at start of
journals. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:26:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72760221021372416 - #125
@Sundayteatime @ColinTGraham ooh yes all of that #mathchat in reality I doubt this
would happen. Spent a month trying to get them to listen to a maths blog
Mon May 23 20:26:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72760228696956928 - #126
@ColinTGraham @Janshs I don't have any problem with being didactic. In some ways a
fairly tight format makes it easier to produce something #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:26:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72760325535051776
72760 - #127
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@ColinTGraham Should the journal be kept as the class proceeds, at the end of the class,
beginning of class, at home, or a mix? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:28:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72760912624369664 - #128
@Janshs I think maybe we need to provide criteria for what we think makes a 'good' LJ
too #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:28:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72760938402545664 - #129
@Janshs RT @ColinTGraham Shd journal be kept as the class proceeds, at the end of
the class, beginning of class, at home, or a mix? #mathchat > all
Mon May 23 20:30:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72761221660688384 - #131
@chris_1974 @ColinTGraham all of above. But as I don't have ICT in class if I am using
online jrnl it will by neccessity be written up at home #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:31:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72761563555168256 - #133
@Janshs sorry I seem to be mainly Rt ing #mathchat tonight - all good points tho :-)
:
Mon May 23 20:31:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72761656299622401 - #135
@Janshs sorry I seem to be mainly Rt ing #mathchat tonight - all good points tho :-)
Mon May 23 20:32:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72761761018814465 - #136
@Sundayteatime #mathchat we are planning to do this with A level next year and use
them at the end of topics and keep them in the classroom
Mon May 23 20:33:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72762020675588099 - #137
@ColinTGraham @chris_1974 How does access to ICT affect what you'd like to do? Do
you/will you use flipcams/digicams/mics to record for example? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:33:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72762051633758208 - #138
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@Sundayteatime @ColinTGraham #mathchat revision aid I think is its main purpose at
the mo
Mon May 23 20:35:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72762696638005248 - #141
@republicofmath Don't know if this counts as "journal" - my students have to record their
work on Wordpress blogs, viewable by all. ... #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:38:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72763364882915328
72763364882 - #146
@republicofmath ... expect them to record backtracks, unexpected findings, things that
worked other than how they thought: record of actual work #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:39:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72763718009761792
72 - #148
@Janshs @ColinTGraham I ask stdts 2 use 4 revision - getting LJ down to smaller &
smaller amount #mathchat also wondering how word clouds cd B used?
Mon May 23 20:41:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72764232122380288 - #150
@ColinTGraham @republicofmath What you are describing seems more like a lab-book
lab
in science... For me, journals need to have opinion/reflection #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:42:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72764269606875137 - #151
@Janshs @ColinTGraham @republicofmath when you are thinking about your thinking ....
#mathchat
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
Mon May 23 20:43:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72764496443215872 - #152
@ColinTGraham @Janshs @republicofmath Yes, and also thinking about what you'd like
to try or explore next. Reflecting on prior thoughts, etc. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:44:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72764858113859584 - #153
@republicofmath Person best known for getting #math students to keep reflective
journals is Andrew Waywood - called it "writing to learn" #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:48:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72765838758903808 - #156
@ColinTGraham I think if we ourselves are not clear about the purpose of the LJ, then it
could blur into something
ng which loses functionality. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:49:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72766029201281025 - #157
@ColinTGraham Last ten minutes or so... any final thoughts or advice about the
shape/form/use of LJs in maths lessons? #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:51:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72766712583421952 - #161
@teachdig @ColinTGraham The idea of capturing learning is what makes me want them
to have a paper journal that we could take out anytime. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:51:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72766722800754688 - #162
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@ColinTGraham @republicofmath free-form
free form would be writing which is 'free-from'
'free the
expected academic formats. "I'd've liked to have tried... so" #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:53:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72767198954930176 - #165
@chris_1974 @teachdig @ColinTGraham i like idea of capture all at time (paper / phone
based), but then refined later (ict) #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:53:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72767231926353920 - #166
@teachdig @chris_1974 @ColinTGraham That is a cool idea. Will add that idea to my
reflection as I think about next yr. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:54:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72767445584187392 - #167
@ColinTGraham @teachdig Glad you could join us this week Dvora! #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:55:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72767603982073856 - #171
@chris_1974 @teachdig @ColinTGraham shots of Nadia's page on the blog shows it off
beautifully to me. #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:56:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72767773348077568 - #172
@ColinTGraham For me, what sets a journal apart from other forms of writing is that it's
an internal conversation, with teacher eavesdropping #mathchat
Mon May 23 20:57:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72768080887021568 - #173
@ColinTGraham A little, but written for an audience 'at large'... "I would caution..." RT
@republicofmath Then my student's writing is free-form
free #mathchat
Mon May 23 21:00:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72768969173508097 - #175
@Janshs what is the role of CPD in spreading use of LJs? or does it not matter enough to
roll out? #mathchat
Mon May 23 21:01:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72769040132747264 - #176
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)
@chris_1974 @Janshs good Qu. I'm not going to push too hard until I've got it working for
me (not yet!). #mathchat
Mon May 23 21:01:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72769240813416448 - #177
@ColinTGraham OK, that's it for another day. Thanks for your contributions everyone. As
usual we end with a provocative question (@Janshs)... #mathchat
Mon May 23 21:01:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72769267048792064 - #178
@ColinTGraham Voting for this week's topic will be online very shortly, watch this space!
#mathchat
Mon May 23 21:02:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72769485567823873 - #180
@Janshs @ColinTGraham thanks for another great chat Colin and all #mathchat
Mon May 23 21:03:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72769588764483584 - #181
@ColinTGraham @Janshs If it's not you, there's always someone else (me!) who throws
out a 'big' question right at the end! #mathchat
Mon May 23 21:04:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72769955103375360 - #182
@republicofmath Whatever you're drinking, I want @ColinTGraham A little, but written for
an audience 'at large'... "I would caution..." RT ... #mathchat
Mon May 23 21:05:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 72770111571890178 - #183
Monday, 23rd May 2011 What does or should a student maths journal look like? (follow up discussion)