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Notes on First 2008 Presidential Debate.

Arrows indicate person who spoke first (on a per row


basis.)
1st-Barack Obama Questions 2nd-John McCain
Jim Lehrer
Initial Response

-Believes government ‘bailout’ < -Criticizing Democrats and


should be used to protect taxpayers Where do you Republicans that they could not
and not “pad wallets” of CEOs. stand on the work together until Republicans
-Plan must be responsible and has financial took the lead. (FALSE:
oversight. recovery plan? Republicans abstained from much
-Current economic state can be of the initial negotiations)
blamed on Bush + McCain
policies.
Rebuttals

-Realized last year that there < -Warned about corporate greed.
would be economic problems this -Eisenhower wrote 2 letters, one of
year. congratulations and resignation.->
-We will have to intervene, but Lost accountability. We need
will also have to look at how accountability/responsibility.
regulations were ignored, and
McCain believes that government
regulation is bad.
-We need responsibility, but even < -“We have a long way to go.”
before a bad event happens. -Consolidation of regulatory
Healthcare system broken, energy agencies that weren’t doing their
policy not working. job.
-“John, 5 days ago, you said the “Fundamental belief in the
economy was sound.” goodness of the American
worker…United States of
America.”
Initial Response

-Suspended earmark spending for > -Earmarking is a gateway to out of


his state. What would control spending.
-McCain proposed $300 bill in tax you do different -Obama spent over $932 million
cuts for corporations. from Obama on on earmarks.
-Grow the economy from the economic
bottom up, tax cut for 95% of policy?
American families.
Rebuttals

-Tax breaks for companies that > -Obama suspended pork-barrel


invest in US projects after his start of
-Health system for everyone to presidential campaign.
have basic coverage. -Has fought against earmarks,
-These are important programs. called “Sheriff”
-Will “go line by line” to spend -Obama proposed $800 billion in
more wisely. new spending, he wants to cut
-McCain’s tax policies rewards spending.
those doing well and neglects
those doing poorly.
-Business taxes are high here, but > -Wants to cut business tax to keep
McCain has supported many Your policy on businesses + create jobs.
loopholes in tax code, our tax cuts -Wants everyone to have a $5000
businesses have some of lowest tax credit to purchase own
taxes in the world. healthcare.
-McCain wants to add additional -Worse thing to do is to raise taxes.
tax cuts over loopholes.
-Health credit-McCain wants to
tax health benefits from employers
-Less regulation does not mean
better.
-McCain wanted to give $4 bill to > -I voted against tax breaks for oil
oil companies companies, Obama voted for it.
-Energy bill on floor is good. -Obama voted for tax increases
McCain opposed to it even though who make as low as $42,000
has offshore drilling since it takes
away tax breaks to oil.
Initial Response

-Hard to anticipate what to do next < -Obama has most liberal voting
year, not all his programs will be What are you record, hard to negotiate.
done going to have to -Opposes ethanol addition to gas.
-Energy independence in 10 years, give up, in -Some programs’ costs are out-of-
alternative energy, US-produced terms of control. Wants fixed cost contracts.
fuel efficient cars priorities, to -Defense spending vital.
-Fix healthcare system. have to pay for -Saved taxpayers $6.8 bill on
-Space system the financial Boeing/Dept. of Defense contract.
-Affordable college for everyone rescue plan? -Examine every agency of
-Infrastructure (transportation, government.
electricity grid)
Rebuttals

-Won’t give up need for energy <


independence, but individual Neither one is
components may go. proposing major
-McCain gives $15 mill subsidies changes on
to private health comp. bailout.
-Lobbyists
-Worked with Tom Colburn, and
opened up governement books.
-Some underfunded or excess such > -Spending freeze, with exceptions
as Medicare One of you will of veteran affairs, national defense,
-$10 bill on Iraq, when they have become and other vital issues
$79 bill surplus. president, in -Offshore drilling, nuclear power
midst of huge can make jobs, helps with climate
financial crisis, change.
not how it will
affect u, but
what u will do
-No doubt will affect budget. < -Make sure not handing health care
-Assume market come back, Are u willing to system to federal government.
government gets back money. acknowledge -Wants family to make health
-Short term may not happen, that the crisis decision.
should expect less tax revenue will have a -Cut spending, Obama has $800
-To make that, need to know our major move on bill in new spending programs.
priorities. ($300 bill tax cuts vs. the way u act? -Veteran programs.
healthcare) -Healthy economy by lowering
taxes, not raising, and restraint is
best recipe.
-We owe China $500 bill
-You agree with Bush 90% of the < -Not elected Miss Congeniality in
time, voted for almost all of his Senate.
budgets. -Opposed Bush on climate change,
-Can’t say you will lead on Guantanamo Bay, Iraq war
controlling spending. conducted. Maverick.
-Partner is Maverick too.
Initial Response

-Fundamental difference > -Can’t have failed strategy


-Should we have gone in the first What are the -War after Afghanistan badly
place lessons of Iraq? handled
-Opposed war from beginning, -Fought for change in strategy in
cost, exit strategy, int’l beginning, and this has succeeded.
relationship, not finished in We are winning.
Afghanistan, not caught OBL -Will come home with victory +
-Spent $600 bill, lost 4,000 lives, honor, which will have a stable
wounded 30,000. Al-Qaida ally.
stronger than before. Spending $10 -Consequences of defeat-Iran,
bill/month increase in sectarian violence.
-Lesson is we should never
hesitate to use military force, but
have to use it wisely.
Rebuttals

> -Obama: Surge would not work,


until recently, but still says he
would still oppose surge today
-Obama has never went to Iraq for
900 days/never met Petraeus
Initial Response

-Biden chairman of Foreign < -Obama doesn’t know diff between


Relations Committee. Point about tactic and strategy
-Violence has been reduced due to never having -I’m patriotic and troops want to
troops, but that was tactic to been to Iraq go back
contain damage of previous 4 yrs -Peace is happening in Iraq, same
of mismanagement strategy will be applied to
-McCain said war would be easy, Afghanistan by Petraeus, this great
knew where WMD were. Wrong. general.
-Who is best equipped on how we
use our military?
Rebuttals
-Troop funding: McCain opposed < -Admiral Mullen suggested
funding with timetable. That was Obama’s plan is dangerous
difference, not funding itself -Didn’t exceed his wildest
-Was this wise, Afghanistan expectations unlike Obama
worsening, McCain thinks it is
successful while OBL still out
-Robert Gates: start+end in
Afghanistan
-End war responsible, in phases, in
16 months, reduce combat troops,
provide relief to military families
while pursuing in Afghanistan.

-Yes, said it for > 1 yr. < -Won’t repeat mistake of Russian
-We have highest fatalities in US Do you think conflict in Afghanistan
troops there, cannot separate from more US troops -On Pakistan, I’m not prepared to
Iraq in Afghanistan? cut off aid to Pakistan, not going to
-Send 2/3 additional brigades to threaten them, unlike Obama who
Afghanistan + press government to wants to order strikes on them
work for their people + deal with -“We don’t say that [strikes] out
poppy trade, Pakistan -> $10 bill loud. We do them.”
Bush gave them -New strategy, not just more
-Why does Iraq have 4x troops troops, used in Iraq for
than Afghanistan when it didn’t Afghanistan.
have Al-Qaeda before it -Pakistanis have to understand that
terrorists don’t want them to
cooperate with US
-Needs more troops
-Never said attack Pakistan; if US < -Pakistan is failed state
has OBL, Al-Qaeda, and we have (Musharraf)
them in our sights, we should take -1993, admired Reagan, voted
them out against his sending troops into
-McCain threatened extinction of Lebanon.
N. Korea + bombing Iran -Supported Bosnia + Kosovo
-20th century policy of “he’s our invasions to prevent violence
dictator” Pakistan -Has record in national security
issues
-Woman wants her son’s death to
not be in vain + gave him a
bracelet, they all say to me we
don’t want defeat; war I was in,
army was defeated, I know how
hard it is for army and military to
recover from it
-We won’t come home defeated
-I have a bracelet too, she said < -You might think with that
please make sure another mother concern, Obama would go to Iraq,
doesn’t have to go thru it I’ve visited these places, and I
-No soldier dies in vain, they know what our needs are.
follow their orders, troops perform -We will prevail in Afghanistan,
brilliantly with new strategy, but if we suffer
-Next president: good judgments defeat in Iraq with Obama’s
-McCain not consistently in touch withdrawal, with have calamitous
with war, he wanted to “muddle affect
thru” war
Initial Response

-RG is a terrorist organization > -If Iran gets nuclears, is existential


-McCain wants to broaden What is your threat to Israel and to region
mandate in Iraq to Iran reading on -We can’t allow 2nd Holocaust,
-Iran has gotten more nuclear threat from proposes a league of democracies
facilities Iran? -Russia preventing Security
-McCain is right, Iran shouldn’t Council
have nuclear -Solve this, league with common
-But should have sanctions with ideals and have a lot of economic
cooperation from Russia + China, power
since they have interest in non- -Russia has lousy government, and
nuclear Iran with French, British, Germans,
-Direct Diplomacy with Iran, others, can affect Iranian behavior
rather than McCain -Iran putting lethal IEDs into Iraq,
-Punishing countries has not Republican Guard
worked in history
Rebuttals

-Ahmadinejad not most powerful > -Obama would sit and talk with
person in Iran Ahmadinejad without precondition
-US President must meet with and give a propaganda platform to
others them
-Bipartisan history of meeting with -Nixon/Kissinger
other countries -Must have preconditions before
-McCain advisor said ok without meeting
preconditions
-Start with low-level talks
-Bush recently sent someone to
Europeans about nuclears
-We need strong alliances, unlike
with N.Korea, which no dealing
with made them restart nuclear
program, until Bush reversed his
position on it
-McCain would not meet with
Spain PM, not meet with friends,
how can meet with nations
-McCain keeps on saying > -I don’t even have a seal yet, so I
President will meet without can’t meet with anyone
preparations -Without precondition, you
-We should not expect to solve legitimize [offensive] comments
every problem in a talk -N.Korea most oppressive regime
-Bush admin is silent
> -Kissinger is my friend and would
be interested in Obama’s views
-Obama is parsing words when
precondition=preparation
Initial Response

-Our approach has to be < -Obama said, both sides should


reevaluated since recent actions How do you see show restraint on Russia/Georgia,
(Georgia) are unwarranted the relationship his is naïve
-Affirm fledgling democracies in with Russia? -Russia fueled by petro $
that region, we will support them, Competitor, -Putin = KGB by looking into his
free to join NATO with Enemy, Partner? eyes
requirements -Russia should understand we will
-Can’t return to Cold War policy to support inclusion of George,
Russia Ukraine into NATO
-Nuclear proliferation: deal with -We should have every right that
Russia with national security Russia behaves in a fashion which
interests of US respects international boundaries
and behavior
Rebuttals

-We both agree, except on forceful < -Obama against reprocessing


objections on Russia -Offshore drilling is a bridge to
-I said that their move was illegal, exploiting reserves
first to say have to rebuild their
economy since Russia wants it to
weaken to replace with leader they
want
-Needs foresight
-We have to have an energy policy
on oil Iran, Venezuela, Russia
-Solar, wind, biodiesel, nuclear,
clean coal
-McCain voted 23 times against alt
energy in 26 yrs
-I never objected nuclear waste, <
just wants to store safely
Initial Response
-Safer in some ways, $ in airport > -Much less than before, safer, but
security What do you long way from safe
-Long way to go -Chemical sites, think the -Long record of bipartisanship
transit, ports likelihood of -We shouldn’t torture another
-Biggest threat now is not nuclear, another 9/11 prisoner
but a suitcase attack on the -Work closely with allies
-Nuclear proliferation is biggest US? -America is safer today than on
threat 9/11
-We need missile defense to -B/c of my recommendations, we
prevent N Korea, Iran have largest reorganization of
-Al-Qaeda is operating in over 60 government
countries, root cause is -Long way to go, like border
Iran/Pakistan control
-Way we are perceived in world
affects our capacity to get
cooperation against terrorism
-Our world standing went down,
partly due to terrorist torture
-Last 8 years, Bush along with > -Obama: Missile defense has to be
McCain have been solely focused proven
on Iraq, but OBL is still out there, -If we fail in Iraq, Al-Qaeda will
Al-Qaeda resurfacing; we are base there, every military leader
borrowing billions from China ways defeat would lose all the
-We can’t spend money on fragile sacrifice made of American
healthcare to people who need it, blood and treasure
invest in education and science,
this is a national security issue
-Veterans can’t get treatment
-Next president has to have a
broader strategic vision missing
over past years.
-My father wanted to come to > -Advantages to experience and
college in US since he knew US judgment
ideal inspire the world, but our -I don’t believe he has experience
current standing is not the same and knowledge
-What we need to do is part of our -He has stubbornness like in this
government is to send a message admin to cling to a belief that
to the world, that we will invest in surge has not succeeded
education, live out their dreams -I have their support and their
recognition of my service to
veterans
-I have ability and background and
knowledge to keep this country
safe and secure. Reform,
Prosperity, Peace
> -When I came home from prison,
veterans were badly treated, I
worked on getting veterans home,
I know how to deal with
adversaries and wounds of war.
10/2 9 PM VP
debate
Thank You and
Good Night

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– DISCLAIMER: This is not a complete transcript. These were major points that each
candidate pointed out during the debate. The author of these notes cannot be held
responsible for the accuracy of these notes. Notes transcribed during a live nationally
televised debate, broadcasted on major television networks, held on Friday, September
26, 2008 at 9 P.M. EST and lasting for 97 minutes. This document was originally created
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