@ColinTGraham Hello everyone and welcome to Monday's #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 20:31:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133642837312028674 - #1

@ColinTGraham For first timers or newcomers, don't try to keep up with everyone, just first-timers engage with one or two! Don't forget the hashtag --> #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:32:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133643017256050688 - #2

@dweksler @ColinTGraham Cheers, Colin. #mathchat raham

Mon Nov 07 20:32:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133643095882477569 - #3

@ColinTGraham If your tweets are protected, you may want to unprotect them so they appear, or send them to me as an @ reply #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:33:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133643199481774080 - #4

@wanstad73 RT @ColinTGraham: Hello everyone and welcome to Monday #mathchat Monday's

Mon Nov 07 20:33:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133643226635714561 - #5

@ColinTGraham If your are RTing, or sending a long tweet, make sure the #mathchat is near the start so the archive can pick it up!
Mon Nov 07 20:33:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133643351231700992 - #6

@ColinTGraham Today's topic, follows up last time: "What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class?" #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:34:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133643462888267776 - #7

@ColinTGraham @dweksler Hi David! @wanstad73 G'day Damian! #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 20:35:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133643750760136705 - #8

@ColinTGraham So... last time, we kind of got to a point where we felt there were overlaps between "real life" and "authentic", but not always #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:36:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133644116151111680 - #9

@ColinTGraham We also tended towards an authentic experience being personal and based on the context, either immediate or a more general one #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:38:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133644392803221504 - #10

@TheBooksource RT @colintgraham: Hello everyone and welcome to Monday's #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 20:38:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133644399463776256 - #11

@ColinTGraham Who wants to kick things off today...? #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 20:39:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133644672030613505 - #12

@dweksler @ColinTGraham As I think I mentioned last time, I was a little concerned about the semantic breakdown I thought might happen : #mathchat :-)
Monday, 7th November 2011 What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

Mon Nov 07 20:39:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133644794613342208 - #13

@Janshs #mathchat does 'authentic' mean that students experience real engagement with the task? e.g. my Y8 today started to 'get' pattern spotting
Mon Nov 07 20:41:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133645157429030913 - #14

@ColinTGraham Here's a definition of authentic from Oxford Dictionaries Onli Online http://t.co/HnQApkU4 which may help focus! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:41:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133645275104415744 - #15

@wanstad73 RT @ColinTGraham: @dweksler Morning both! #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 20:42:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133645506713878528 - #16

@ColinTGraham @Janshs Hi Jan! "real engagement" or engagement with something real... or .../ ;-) #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:42:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133645562963697666 - #17

@ColinTGraham How does 'real' mathematics differ from 'authentic' mathematics? Maybe an example would help? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:44:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133645948466376704 - #19

@Janshs @ColinTGraham well I'm not sure that 'something real' can ever exist without olinTGraham being contrived: am I being controversial enough :) #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:44:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 13364 133646084030464001 - #20

@ColinTGraham @Janshs We decided being in a maths class was also a big part of students' reality or real life... 'contrivance' is an issue. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:46:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133646580099186688 - #24

@Janshs @ColinTGraham oh yes! I totally agree - communities of practice & all that; training them to be maths students #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:47:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 1336 133646826514550785 - #26

@bucharesttutor @ColinTGraham 'real' Mathematics would be calculating sale price for Mathematics a product, 'authentic' means simple interest + principal =Amt #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:49:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133647177162563585 - #28

@ColinTGraham To give an example... analysing data is real (authentic) maths, but may not seem real/genuine if data has no me meaning to ss #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:49:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133647282909356033 - #29

@cristinaluminea @ColinTGraham why don't you bring back some points that wer were made last week so we can take it from there? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:50:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133647582734974976 - #31

@ColinTGraham @bucharesttutor Hi Vijay! I don't think it's as easy as reducing it to formulae. Any kind of calcn could seem 'real' or 'fake'... #mathchat
Monday, 7th November 2011 What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

Mon Nov 07 20:51:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133647782388047872 - #32

@ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea I can do Cristina... maybe we can explore the istinaluminea difference between 'real' maths & maths which is 'authentic' to ss #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:53:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 13364 133648180830158850 - #33

@ColinTGraham One area which we didn't explore much last time was the relationship of the context of the mathematics being done/taught/learned #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:53:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133648385721905152 - #36

@bucharesttutor @ColinTGraham you're right Colin, was thinking also proving the Pascal triangle by way of Mathematical induction/Binomial the theorem #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:54:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133648482102812673 - #37

@wanstad73 To me the autgentic comes in the 'doing'. U read much about real real-life #digitalcitizenship, but understanding is in the practise #mathchat ,
Mon Nov 07 20:55:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133648868926685184 - #38

@ColinTGraham How personalized do you feel an 'authentic' activity is? Is authenticity related to an individual's idea of something 'real' or..? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:56:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649032865267715 - #39

@bucharesttutor BTW Hello to @ColinTGraham @drwetzel @wanstad73, wonder where is @stefras @mathfour #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:56:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649038884089856 - #42

@ColinTGraham @bucharesttutor Shawn is teaching... @mathfour is probably tied up somewhere... bound and gagged, maybe! >: #mathchat >:-)
Mon Nov 07 20:57:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649234661617664 - #44

@ColinTGraham @wanstad73 So kind of like becoming a driver... you need to get behind the wheel before the "Aha!" moments start? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:58:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649435598127104 - #45

@bucharesttutor @ColinTGraham for me 'authentic'can also be defined as using some linTGraham tested method elsewhere to be tried at your Ss for first time #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:58:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 1336494 133649453436502016 - #46

@mathfour @ColinTGraham @bucharesttutor #ARG Here I am at the doc's again during #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:58:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649517038927872 - #47

@Turkeydoodles @ColinTGraham I figure that something is authentic when the student no longer thinks of it as being for school. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:58:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649535401590787 - #48

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@monsoon0 @ColinTGraham #mathchat To be "authentic" maths, it has to be about discovering patterns; often becomes obssessive, compelling, beautiful..
Mon Nov 07 20:59:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649720252960768 - #49

@cristinaluminea @ColinTGraham authenticity could be connected with the ss interests... you can't engage them in maths for calculati taxes #mathchat calculating
Mon Nov 07 20:59:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649762615427073 - #50

@bucharesttutor @mathfour the timing cannot be more impeccable than this ;) what do you think ? @ColinTGraham #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 20:59:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649786904649728 - #51

@ColinTGraham @Turkeydoodles Is there nothing authentic about being at school, or is it more about looking at school activities a different way? #mathchat ore
Mon Nov 07 21:00:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133649929766830080 - #52

@mathfour #mathchat Are we talking authentic again? Didn't we already do that twice?
Mon Nov 07 21:00:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650041721196545 - #54

@mathfour #mathchat Did I just miss it all? I'm lost.

Mon Nov 07 21:01:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650205882056704 - #55

@ColinTGraham @monsoon0 That is one way of looking at authenticity, Nalini. There That may be more to authentic maths than just "pattern spotting"... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:01:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id 13365026255968 133650262559686656 - #56

@ColinTGraham @mathfour Nope, it may have seemed like we did it twice last time, Bon! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:01:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650376040779777 - #57

@Caro_lann @cristinaluminea #mathchat I have a problem with "need to know" who know"decides what they need to know and why?
Mon Nov 07 21:02:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650526591127552 - #58

@Turkeydoodles @ColinTGraham Authenitc requires student buy as meaningful; most buy-in school work isn't, so students don't buy w RL effort #mathchat buy-in
Mon Nov 07 21:02:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650563886878720 - #59

@monsoon0 @ColinTGraham For me, everything mathematical is ab about patterns, remember the Hardy quote? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:02:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650641913516032 - #61

@mathfour #mathchat Sweet! Looks like I'm 30 min late, not 90.
Mon Nov 07 21:03:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650723937337 133650723937337344 - #62

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@delta_dc "Of course it's happening inside UR head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it's not real?" Dumbledore on authenticity #mathchat umbledore
Mon Nov 07 21:03:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650776902995969 - #63

@ColinTGraham @bucharesttutor the "tested method" aspect is one important aspect, Vijay. Where 'validity' is seen as being part of authenticity. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:03:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133650862135451648 - #64

@monsoon0 GH Hardy #mathchat : "A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns." (1/2)
Mon Nov 07 21:04:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651002829193216 - #65

@wanstad73 @ColinTGraham Not quite. Games like gradturismo, angry birds, dance central can still help learn concepts & skills authentically. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:04:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651090720833536 - #66

@ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea You could if the tax calculation was part of a business game, though... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:04:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651170790080512 - #68

@monsoon0 GH Hardy #mathchat ct'd: "If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas."
Mon Nov 07 21:04:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651168432898049 - #69

@mathfour #mathchat I'm starting to feel like too much talk of authenticity causes talk fakiness!
Mon Nov 07 21:05:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651328961482752 - #70

@ColinTGraham @wanstad73 There can be an authentic experience of mathematics @wanstad73 from many different sources... games amongst them! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:05:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651400952520704 - #71

@mathfour @Caro_lann @cristinaluminea How can there be need to know in math? That's ridiculous! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:06:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651462143229953 - #72

@bucharesttutor @ColinTGraham exactly Colin, testing n then allowing your Ss to rethink their own strategies, good start to 'authentic' the probs #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:06:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651519991058432 - #73

@ColinTGraham @mathfour Yep, still an hour to go Bon! #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:06:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651548629774336 - #74

@ColinTGraham @delta_dc The worry, Dave, is that something real is going on outside your head, but not inside it! Wherein lies the 'authentic'? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:07:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 13 133651825197973504 - #75

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@Janshs #mathchat personalisation perhaps the key here @ColinTGraham as tchrs personalisation maybe we have to offer a variety of 'authenticity' ?
Mon Nov 07 21:08:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133651998800220161 - #76

@ColinTGraham @monsoon0 Again, it's the personalization of the mathematical experience which authenticates it for you then, Nalini? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:08:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652015602606080 - #77

@monsoon0 @ColinTGraham #mathchat You are very perceptive!

Mon Nov 07 21:08:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652107017457665 - #78

@wanstad73 RT @ColinTGraham: @wanstad73 There can be an authentic experience of mathematics from many different sources..games amongst them! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:08:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652126017654786 - #79

@monsoon0 RT @mathfour: @Caro_lann @cristinaluminea How can there be need to know in math? That's ridiculous! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:10:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652545410310145 - #81

@monsoon0 Almost becomes religion! RT @mathfour: #mathchat I'm starting to feel like too much talk of authenticity causes fakiness!
Mon Nov 07 21:10:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652659373752320 - #83

@Caro_lann @mathfour Agree. I'd like to abandon "the curriculum" and start doing interesting explorative work with students. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:11:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652713912287232 - #84

@delta_dc @ColinTGraham IMO @jk_rowling is making point that what is in our head is @jk_rowling real. Too often we don't recognize that in teaching k12. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:11:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652761907703808 - #85

@delta_dc @ColinTGraham IMO @jk_rowling is making point that what is in our head is real. Too often we don't recognize that in te teaching k12. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:11:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652761907703808 - #86

@ColinTGraham It's interesting if we try to relate an 'authentic' experience in a maths class to the four definitions in http://t.co/OUQUTmXx #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:11:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133652821424865280 - #87

@delta_dc @ColinTGraham And there is plenty going on outside my head that I choose not to engage in. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:12:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653026861879296 - #88

@midhamohit #mathchat just joining now. Can somebody tell me what the topic of discussion is? thanks!
Mon Nov 07 21:12:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653108604678144 - #90

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@ColinTGraham @delta_dc I don't disagree ... the point I am making based on that is "inside the head" = authentic... whether real or not. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:12:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653187956715520 - #91

@mathhombre @delta_dc @ColinTGraham that's a good book if it comes up in three consecutive days, edcamp, biblestudy, mathchat #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:13:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653261608685568 - #93

@ColinTGraham @midhamohit Hi Mohit! #mathchat topic is: "What does 'a 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class?"
Mon Nov 07 21:13:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653386959654912 - #94

@wanstad73 RT @monsoon0: @ColinTGraham For me, everything mathematical is soon0: about patterns, remember the Hardy quote? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:13:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653430483943424 - #95

@mathhombre Math is authentic when it's students doing math, not imitating. imitating.#mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:14:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653481604128769 - #96

@mathhombre Could be real world, could be proving @CuttheKnot's latest triangle could theorem. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:14:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653609832394752 - #97

@republicofmath On balance I think we do have to consider "need to know" in math teaching @Caro_Iann @mathfour #mathchat Otherwise might not be authentic
Mon Nov 07 21:15:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653735153999872 - #98

@mathhombre Students are really good at detecting fake. We could always just ask them. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:15:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653752388399104 - #99

@cristinaluminea @mathhombre does that mean that the teacher should allow students to discover maths rather than teach them #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:15:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653789533147137 - #100

@ColinTGraham @Caro_lann Hi Carol Ann, long time no #mathchat Interesting #mathchat! explorative work, or engaging or real or valid? Interesting may not be all...
Mon Nov 07 21:15:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133653879601635330 - #101

@ColinTGraham RT @dwatson802: #mathchat to me authentic is an activity they feel comfortable with (like grannies lasagna) but something they want to do.
Mon Nov 07 21:16:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654088222117888 - #102

@delta_dc @mathhombre I think imitation can be authentic - "way that faithfully resembles an original" http://t.co/98A6OFph #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:16:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654181734137858 - #103

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@ColinTGraham @dwatson802 Hi Damian, glad to have you with us! Use #mathchat instead of @mathchat, so everyone can see your comments ; ;-)
Mon Nov 07 21:17:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654276265353217 - #104

@delta_dc @ColinTGraham Not sure I understand. Please say more. #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:17:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654333496635393 - #105

@bucharesttutor RT @ColinTGraham: RT @dwatson802: #mathchat to me authentic is an activity they feel comfortable with (like grannies lasagna) but someth ...
Mon Nov 07 21:17:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654342677966848 - #106

@midhamohit @ColinTGraham We believe in learning learning-by-doing #Math . On Mangahigh.com students get their hands dirty in a non threatening env #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:17:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654411 133654411217076225 - #107

@Janshs #mathchat recent great lesson with Y9 when they nearly all had amber cards on lesson show - & accepted this was good because it was challenging
Mon Nov 07 21:18:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654457320869889 - #108

@mathhombre @delta_dc will think about it. That kind of imitation is a stepping stone, not an end. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:18:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654601105805312 - #109

@ColinTGraham @delta_dc To me, there is a point when what is going on outside perceived or ignored - starts to overlap with "inside the head" #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:18:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654616557629440 - #110

@republicofmath Investigating the 4 peg Tower of Hanoi problem is a genuine & hard math problem: http://t.co/m8hEW7hU Is it "authentic"? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:18:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654674082512896 - #111

@delta_dc What does it mean to do mathematics? IMO the answer suggests authenticity. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:19:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133 133654710510043136 - #112

@ColinTGraham @midhamohit @mathhombre Learning by doing was a theme that came up several times on the last #mathchat as being something 'authentic'
Mon Nov 07 21:19:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654908422463488 - #113

@delta_dc @ColinTGraham Ah, but where to start? Inside out or outside Inside-out outside-in?#mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:20:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133654992082042880 - #114

@MathLaoshi "Authentic" is no longer hearing "I was good at math until I got to college" #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:20:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655002945302530 - #115

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@mathhombre @cristinaluminea some demonstrations are authentic. Stu.s have an opportunity to engage in processes, to me that's math. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:20:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655018237730817 - #116

@delta_dc @mathhombre Exactly, but no less authentic. #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:20:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655073694822401 - #117

@climeguy @republicofmath The tower puzzle is one of my favorites. Is it authentic? That depends on the mindset of student working on it. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:21:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655258294521857 - #118

@ColinTGraham @republicofmath Maybe the degree of "need to know"? eg I need to know something exists but not necessarily how to prove or use? #mathchat xists
Mon Nov 07 21:21:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655403287416832 - #119

@mathhombre @literacygurl talks about teaching to read vs teaching to read 'A Snowy Day', a specific book. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:22:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655490080153602 - #120

@mathhombre Do we teach mathing, or math math-like motions? #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:22:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655524234379266 - #121

@ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea @mathhombre And how would you/your students know if the maths they had discovered was authentic mathematics...? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:22:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655604655964160 - #122

@republicofmath If students investigate 4 peg ToH prob http://t.co/zrcSe7Wr are they doing authentic math? Suspect "authentic" is highly relative #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:22:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655614911037440 - #123

@monsoon0 MT @republicofmath: Investigating 4 peg Tower of Hanoi problem is a hard math problem: http://t.co/jcUwG4Bv Is it "authentic"? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:22:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655635609919489 - #124

@delta_dc @republicofmath It made it as a challenge on "Survivor" - how much more authentic do you need ;-) #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:22:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655670842073088 - #125

@cristinaluminea @ColinTGraham I think authentic is a matter of perspective... it would be authentic to them #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:23:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655779818487808 - #128

@republicofmath Just so @climeguy ToH one of my favorites. Is it authentic? That depends on the mindset of student working on it. #mathchat tudent
Mon Nov 07 21:23:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655842288451586 - #130

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@dwatson802 @ColinTGraham #mathchat authentic will as we are discovering different depending on the person or Ss. To me it must be engagi to them. engaging
Mon Nov 07 21:23:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655947980718081 - #131

@ColinTGraham @MathLaoshi It is about point of view here... authentic to the student, of authentic to the teacher, authentic to the subject... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:24:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655988812259329 - #132

@Caro_lann @ColinTGraham I think "meaningful" works for me - real rather than "realistic" - procedures as tools not ends, etc #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:24:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133655991123320832 - #133

@midhamohit #mathchat in this game from Mangahigh http://t.co/BGWKYpPY U guide a rocket 2 intercept a meteor in space. A Authentic?
Mon Nov 07 21:24:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656023604015104 - #134

@climeguy Whether its authentic or not is the mind of the beholder. #mathchat mind
Mon Nov 07 21:24:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656030470082561 - #135

@republicofmath Funny David @delta_dc ToH made it as a challenge on "Survivor" how much more authentic do you need ; #mathchat ;-)
Mon Nov 07 21:24:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656057607241728 - #136

@cristinaluminea @ColinTGraham is authentic that important? ther are things that are there authentic that I don't care about.. they don't affect me... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:25:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656219058585600 - #137

@republicofmath Ask around @ColinTGraham how would you/your students know if the maths they had discovered was authentic mathematics...? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:25:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656286301650944 - #138

@delta_dc @climeguy @republicofmath So does authenticity reside in the individual? #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:25:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656326415986689 - #139

@ColinTGraham I like the second part of "made or done in the traditional or original way, or in a way that faithfully resembles an origi original" #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:25:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656342907990018 - #140

@cristinaluminea I think passion is more important than authenticity #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:25:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656428979294210 - #141

@monsoon0 I think you need both RT @cristinaluminea: I think passion is more important than authenticity #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:26:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656563654213633 - #143

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@delta_dc @republicofmath Lots of math challenges on "Survivor" but I wouldn't use that challenges as the reason to explore them. Just a connection. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:26:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656610097741824 - #144

@wanstad73 @ColinTGraham Interested in this concept - 'the mathematics' being authentic as opposed to 'the experience' #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:26:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656623787945985 - #145

@monsoon0 #mathchat @ColinTGraham I also like "relating to or denoting an emotionally appropriate, significant, purposive"
Mon Nov 07 21:27:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 13365690266721 133656902667218944 - #146

@ColinTGraham @midhamohit A real life activity, maybe. An authentic experience...? real-life Maybe only if you enjoy playing games... #mathchat g
Mon Nov 07 21:27:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133656913283002369 - #147

@climeguy From my experience tower puzle is wonderful but many studs give up puzle because of degree of difficulty. To help i start w 1 disk tower #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:28:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657076579840000 - #149

@bucharesttutor Add dedication s well RT @monsoon0: I think you need both RT @cristinaluminea: I think passion is more important than authenticity #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:28:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657145764884481 - #150

@MathLaoshi My POV is that if S's can take what they learn in my class to any class, it's authentic @ColinTGraham It is about point of view... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:28:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657151943090176 - #151

@ColinTGraham @midhamohit What happens when a game is 'solved'? Is it less authentic or less real or does it just get regarded differently? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:28:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657191612825600 - #152

@wanstad73 Ah, so 'authentic' first needs a reason to explore? #m #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:29:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657335385178112 - #153

@ColinTGraham @MathLaoshi So any learning which can be applied or used for developing more is authentic? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:29:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657437382250497 - #154

@dwatson802 @cristinaluminea #mathchat agree engaging, passion, something the Ss want to get stuck into and will challenge a Rich task. o
Mon Nov 07 21:30:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657501995499520 - #155

@Janshs @monsoon0 red green or amber cards that the ss hold up or leave on desk to green say how they are getting on w/ concepts/understanding #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:30:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657525949186048 - #156

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@delta_dc @climeguy Solving a simpler problem in order to generalize is authentic mathematics regardless of the task. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:30:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657556353691648 - #157

@republicofmath Does passion engender authenticity? @monsoon0 Think you need both @cristinaluminea Think passion more important than authenticity #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:30:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657672942755840 - #158

@climeguy @delta_dc in the individ!ual? Absoltuely. We teachers set the stage and then teachers stand back and watch and try to be less helpful. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:31:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657762788941824 - #159

@ColinTGraham @wanstad73 Any exploration must have a reason for being done (=purposeful), otherwise it's not real (or authentic!). #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:31:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133657926702342145 - #160

@ColinTGraham @monsoon0 I like a combination of the definitions! I *do* like the implication that there is more than one way to be authentic tho #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:33:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658274712137729 - #161

@cristinaluminea does authenticity stay in the way of progress and innovation though though? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:33:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658332119572480 - #162

@monsoon0 It can amplify it if you already have it "Does passion engender authenticity?" @republicofmath @cristinaluminea #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:33:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658417544957952 - #163

@delta_dc @republicofmath @monsoon0 @cristinaluminea Or are we passionate about what is authentic? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:33:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658475283759106 - #164

@ColinTGraham @wanstad73 Authentic mathematics would be those elements which are regarded as "based on facts; accurate or reliable", maybe. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:34:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658564093943809 - #165

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham I'm not sure I believe "authentic" is authentic. #mathchat "authentic"
Mon Nov 07 21:34:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658628652675072 - #166

@Janshs RT @monsoon0: It can amplify it if you already have it "Does passion engender authenticity?" @republicofmath @cristinaluminea #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:35:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658743048114177 - #167

@ColinTGraham @republicofmath So we return to the idea of authenticity being related the to some form of validation at a personal level, Gary? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:35:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658770994757633 - #168

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@cristinaluminea @delta_dc I think what we are passionate about is authentic... I don't think it's a double implication #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:35:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658797381136384 - #169

@delta_dc @cristinaluminea Please say more about this. #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:35:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658814980435968 - #170

@monsoon0 But as any quick foray on Sunday TV shows "passion" on its own can be highly inauthentic too #mathchat @republicofmath
Mon Nov 07 21:35:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133658842729955328 - #171

@ColinTGraham RT @midhamohit I'd differentiate between real vs virtual to authentic vs @midhamohit non-authentic. It can be Virtual but Auth & Real but NA #mathchat authentic.
Mon Nov 07 21:36:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 1336590436496875 - #172 133659043649687553

@delta_dc @cristinaluminea So where does that passion come from? especially in mathematics #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:36:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659051904090113 - #173

@midhamohit @ColinTGraham When game is solved and you've retained Math knowledge.. it is REAL. If u haven't, it ISN'T. Game is just a medium #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:36:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659085445922816 - #174

@climeguy RT @delta_dc: Solving a simpler problem in order to generalize is authentic...Its good teaching but isnt necessarily authentic. #mathchat ts
Mon Nov 07 21:36:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659179788406785 - #175

@ColinTGraham @midhamohit This is related to the point I was making to @delta_dc... that something "inside the head" is authentic and real. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:37:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659372202098688 - #176

@delta_dc @climeguy What is inauthentic about solving simpler problems to find answers uy to harder ones? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:37:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659479890870272 - #177

@cristinaluminea @delta_dc from realizing that I like to cycle and to build a bike I need to know about pi... it's about maths' applications #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:38:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659569019826176 - #178

@ColinTGraham RT @j_lanier: Purposeful, yes... must be a felt purpose on students' part, either from need, joy, or curiosity.On my end isnt enuf #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:38:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659632836157440 - #179

@monsoon0 RT @delta_dc: @climeguy What is inauthentic about solvi simpler solving problems to find answers to harder ones? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:38:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659697994661888 - #180

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@MrHonner @cristinaluminea @delta_dc But I don't think you need to know about pi to aluminea build a bicycle. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:39:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659763220291584 - #182

@j_lanier #mathchat When math class isn't a pantomime or a going going-through of motions, but trying to understand a thing we want or need to know.
Mon Nov 07 21:39:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659834791895040 - #183

@wanstad73 @ColinTGraham Postulating new theories? #authentic #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:39:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659868618960896 - #185

@ColinTGraham @j_lanier Does your method of engaging in something purposeful for the students not also have to be 'real/authentic' for you too? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:39:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133659911883202561 - #186

@MrHonner @j_lanier Is this the proposed standard for "authentic"? #mathchat nier
Mon Nov 07 21:40:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660174966730754 - #187

@wanstad73 RT @MrHonner: @cristinaluminea @delta_dc But I don't think you need to know about pi to build a bicycle. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:40:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660223348023296 - #188

@delta_dc @ColinTGraham @j_lanier When we talk about purpose, we are intersecting with engagement. Is engagement part of authenticity? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:40:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660230474137601 - #189

@Caro_lann RT @j_lanier: #mathchat When math class isn't a pan pantomime or a goingthrough of motions, but trying to understand a thing we want or nee ...
Mon Nov 07 21:41:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660275122520064 - #190

@ColinTGraham @wanstad73 "relating to or denoting an emotionally appropriate, significant, purposive, & responsible mode of human life" #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:41:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660318256734208 - #191

@cristinaluminea @MrHonner it was a figure of speech...I think maths needs to be applied to real world projects that students are passionate about #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:41:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660419591122945 - #192

@ColinTGraham @wanstad73 If you want to be existential about 'authentic' ; #mathchat ;-)

Mon Nov 07 21:41:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660435181342720 - #193

@MrHonner @delta_dc @ColinTGraham @j_lanier I'm sorry I missed the lengthy part of this #mathchat where we try to decide what th hell "authentic" is. the
Mon Nov 07 21:41:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660448414367744 - #195

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@midhamohit @ColinTGraham Exactly! If there is growth in knowledge n aptitude, it is REAL. With real or virtual methods? it doesn't matter! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:42:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660513476415488 - #196

@monsoon0 Absolutely! @ColinTGraham: "I *do* like the implication that there is more than one way to be authentic tho" #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:42:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660551468425216 - #197

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner @delta_dc @j_lanier We're still arguing about that Patrick! #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:42:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660614114549760 - #199

@delta_dc @MrHonner @colintgraham @j_lanier I don't think anything's been decided ; ;-) #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:42:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660685719703552 - #200

@j_lanier #mathchat Authentic: we would do these things even if it weren't "math class". even When we aren't putting on a skit. When we're just ppl inaroom
Mon Nov 07 21:43:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660768397828098 - #201

@ColinTGraham @midhamohit The student has to engage with the method or medium of the learning experience, whatever is used, for it to be 'real' #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:43:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660848408375297 - #202

@delta_dc @cristinaluminea But can't they be passionate about pi w/o it being attached passionate to something in the real-world? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:43:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133660939022118912 - #203

@ColinTGraham @j_lanier Ah... but the topic is what 'authentic' means in a maths class... are you saying it must also be real/authentic outside? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:44:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133661217465176064 - #204

@MrHonner @cristinaluminea I know, but this pseudo authenticity ("You like basketball? pseudo-authenticity Then you'll love parabolas!) is pervasive teaching. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:45:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133661391730126848 - #205

@delta_dc Is that about the people or the way math is taught? >> MT @cristinaluminea @cristinaluminea: only if they see maths as a puzzle which few people do #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:45:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133661460789334016 - #206

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner @cristinaluminea The mathematics may be authentic, it's just not authentic to that particular requirement/context... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:46:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133661606679822337 - #207

@MrHonner @cristinaluminea I know, but this pseudo authenticity (You like basketball? pseudo-authenticity Then you'll love parabolas!) is pervasive in teaching. #mathchat
Monday, 7th November 2011 What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

Mon Nov 07 21:46:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133661620437123074 - #208

@j_lanier @MrHonner I'm just tossing things out there. Doubt there will be anything like agreement. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:47:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133661766310825984 - #209

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea If that's the standard, then what math is 'inauthentic'? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:47:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id 1336619 133661911823810560 - #210

@midhamohit @ColinTGraham I don't think the method makes it real or unreal. The outcome does. Engagement is integral to good teaching methods #mathchat s
Mon Nov 07 21:48:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662031256625152 - #211

@MathLaoshi I was referring to math only but ran out of space, but yes @ColinTGraham So any learning... used for developing more is authentic? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:48:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662050672058369 - #212

@MrHonner @j_lanier I honestly have no clue what people mean when they use the word. honestly I guess I should have checked the #mathchat archive.
Mon Nov 07 21:48:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662171979710464 - #213

@cristinaluminea @delta_dc I think it is both... different people learn differently, also the teacher plays a big role (it did for me any way) #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:48:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662182431916032 - #214

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner @cristinaluminea For me, it's about the appropriate application of the mathematics at a particular time that's authentic #mathchat athchat
Mon Nov 07 21:48:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662247326195712 - #215

@mathhombre It's not equating basketball to math that makes that authentic, but using math to model real data. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:49:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662320193830912 - #216

@ColinTGraham Here are the four definitions I posted earlier: http://t.co/OUQUTmXx from Oxford Dictionaries... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:49:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662448434679809 - #217

@cristinaluminea @MrHonner I think the projects can be a hook...if you show me how I can improve at something I like I will listen #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:49:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662470110838784 - #218

@bucharesttutor Good Night Twitterville wherever you are :) I am super tired now and once again thanks a bunch @ColinTGraham for the #mathchat Cheers
Mon Nov 07 21:50:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662554647035904 - #219

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@MrHonner @j_lanier Seems like 'authentic' is just a synonym for a bunch of different things, like 'engaging', 'effective', 'successful'. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:50:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662705696518144 - #220

@ColinTGraham @bucharesttutor Glad you could join us Vijay! Don't forget to vote for the next #mathchat http://t.co/6ClG7l3a
Mon Nov 07 21:51:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662815897661441 - #221

@j_lanier @ColinTGraham I don't know that I'd want to call anything authentic t that's in a setting more narrow than the whole wide world. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:51:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662817248227328 - #222

@kaminskiterry RT @delta_dc: @climeguy Solving a simpler problem in order to generalize is authentic mathematics regardless of the task. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:51:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133662978695372801 - #223

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner @j_lanier I think it's more about the intersection of all of those areas on the Venn Diagram of defintions... ; #mathchat ;-)
Mon Nov 07 21:52:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 13366 133663094948896769 - #224

@dweksler @ColinTGraham Ooooh, baby! Venn Diagrams!! #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:52:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663192785227776 - #225

@delta_dc My rule of thumb: the math lesson is more likely to be authentic if I am being thumb: authentic in its planning & implementation. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:53:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663389485510656 - #226

@ColinTGraham OK, we're into our last 10 minutes... and flying around in all directions as usual! Any further thoughts or comments on the topic? #mathchat mments
Mon Nov 07 21:53:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663436889526273 - #227

@monsoon0 RT @dweksler: @ColinTGraham Ooooh, baby! Venn Diagrams!! Diagrams!!#mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:53:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663483463081984 - #228

@bucharesttutor @ColinTGraham ok Colin cast my vote for next weeks #mathchat, thanks so much again for tonights session :) Good Night
Mon Nov 07 21:54:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663532326715392 - #229

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea So 'authenticity' is entirely dependent on student perception? #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 21:54:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663542703427585 - #230

@wanstad73 @malynmawby Just checked this out after #mathchat Great vid! #mathchat.
Mon Nov 07 21:54:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663622198079489 - #231

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@MrHonner @cristinaluminea Agreed about projects; but seems like they are only meaningful if they fit that particular student's interests. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:55:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 13 133663855443320832 - #232

@midhamohit #mathchat thanks everyone! it was an interesting chat. Do check out Mangahigh.com : FREE games based Math resource for US schools! C u soon!
Mon Nov 07 21:55:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663929799938048 - #233

@delta_dc @MrHonner @ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea Authenticity is in eye of beholder. Our job is to broaden their vision. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:55:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663978466455552 - #234

@mathhombre Having students working on GeoGebra, fitting a set of points, and then GeoGebra, trying to model Steam user data. Is one more authentic? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:55:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133663981964496896 - #235

@ColinTGraham @MrHonner @cristinaluminea Not just the student perception. For me, everyone involved has the 'same' perceptn of it = g group valid #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:56:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664048406470656 - #236

@cristinaluminea @MrHonner I think it's hard to get a student engaged in maths if they don't see a purpose in it..they don't care if it's authentic #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:56:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664105725820929 - #237

@malynmawby Is authenticity a mindset such that doing something in virtual worlds, for example, is still authentic? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:56:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664201574064130 - #239

@MathLaoshi @ColinTGraham @MrHonner Devil's advocate: so if I think math is all rote learning and so do my students, then it's authentic? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:57:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664341294714881 - #240

@ColinTGraham Real-life data and/or situations can result in students "buying in" to life doing the mathematics, but it's not necess the only way... #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:57:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664406033793024 - #242

@delta_dc @malynmawby I'd say yes. See my earlier quote by @jk_rowling #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:57:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664440238350336 - #243

@ColinTGraham @MathLaoshi @MrHonner Yes for that particular task. However if you *did* believe that, you have no business teaching, in my view! #mathchat elieve
Mon Nov 07 21:58:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664755792609280 - #245

@mathhombre Maybe it's like acting. An actor gives an authentic portrayal of a character. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:58:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664769168261120 - #246

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@mathhombre It's the acting that is authentic or not, whether the role is fictional or real whether life. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 21:59:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133664837942255616 - #247

@ColinTGraham SO.... that's it for another fast fast-and-furious #mathchat Thanks for your contributions everyone!
Mon Nov 07 22:00:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665062220079105 - #248

@malynmawby @ColinTGraham ok so the answer to my question is yes. #mathchat

Mon Nov 07 22:00:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665114720178176 - #249

@cristinaluminea I asked kids why they do/n't like maths and the answer was connected to them being good at it..how can this relate to authenticity #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 22:00:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665271134175232 - #250

@ColinTGraham No, it's half past four...! : RT @malynmawby: @ColinTGraham ok so :-P : the answer to my question is yes. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 22:01:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665359399108608 - #251

@MrHonner @ColinTGraham Thanks, Colin! Glad I caught the end of this #mathchat. Goodnight @MathLaoshi, @delta_dc, and all!
Mon Nov 07 22:02:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665643202494464 - #252

@ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea oh *that* is a whole other 'can of worms' and a topic *that* for another #mathchat, Cristina!
Mon Nov 07 22:03:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665787377487872 - #253

@malynmawby @ColinTGraham hey, my last questn was whether or not authenticity's a mindset & so applies to virtual worlds. by your def'n, yes. #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 22:03:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665881644478466 - #254

@cristinaluminea @ColinTGraham I am looking forward to that one then : #mathchat :-)

Mon Nov 07 22:03:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133665970991529984 - #255

@ColinTGraham Don't forget to vote for the next #mathchat http://t.co/6ClG7l3a topic and follow @mathchat to keep updated!
Mon Nov 07 22:03:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133666020790509568 - #256

@ColinTGraham @malynmawby I know, just playing Malyn! @delta_dc and I seem to agree that the authenticity of an experience is "inside the head" #mathchat chat
Mon Nov 07 22:05:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133666307227922432 - #257

@ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea We'll need to vote o it first! ;-) #mathchat on )

Mon Nov 07 22:06:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133666581854158848 - #258

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)

@cristinaluminea @ColinTGraham how do I put it up as an option for vote?..I have a feeling it will be coming...at some stage.Thanks for #mathchat by the way!
Mon Nov 07 22:09:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133667405179260928 - #259

@ColinTGraham @cristinaluminea Anyone with ideas for #mathchat topics is welcome to add them to http://t.co/IVjImwMR whence they get polled... or clubbed!
Mon Nov 07 22:11:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133668010501210115 - #262

@j_lanier @MrHonner :\ Well that's lame. Maybe we can rescue it? #mathchat
Mon Nov 07 22:17:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id 133669479380025344 - #264

Monday, 7th November 2011

What does 'authentic' mean in a mathematics class? (follow up)