Nicolas Sarkozy, A Modern Louis XVI

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Nicolas Sarkozy, a modern Louis XVI?

The French president's techniques to uncover the source of rumours would not have been out of place in the ancien rgime
Nabila Ramdani guardian.co.uk, Friday 9 April 2010 11.31 BST Article history
French president Nicolas Sarkozy with his wife, Carla Bruni-Sarkozy. Photograph: Eric Feferberg/AFP/Getty Images
Carla Bruni-Sarkozy sounded like an 18th-century first lady who lunches, when she appeared live on French national radio to laugh off rumours about infidelity at the lyse Palace. "Non," she purred, there was nothing in the silly claims. She had not fallen for a hunky young pop singer called Benjamin Biolay and, "non", her husband, Nicolas Sarkozy, was not being comforted by a young minister-come-karate champion called Chantal Jouanno. Moreover, there would be no possibility of revenge against the disloyal underlings accused of spreading the gossip particularly former justice minister Rachida Dati who, Carla added ominously, remained "our friend". So that was that all sorted then? Pas du tout! Forgetting all the grim allusions to affairs of state (or inter-ministerial "karaoke sessions" as one of Sarkozy's more entertaining wives once described them), what the latest scandal teaches us is that the court of the French head of state is as vindictive and cruel as it was in the days of Marie Antoinette and her husband Louis XVI. Within hours of Bruni-Sarkozy's devastating reference to Dati, the former head of the DCRI, the Gallic version of MI5, appeared on another radio station to confirm that he had been ordered to find and punish the blabbermouth. This was not long after Dati, who is now an MEP, had been stripped of her chauffeur-driven car, three bodyguards and even governmental smart phone. The ever-relaxed Pierre Charron, the lyse aide responsible for Carla's publicity and a member of a small phalanx of Sarkozy hardmen nicknamed "the firm", announced that the "campaign of terror" would continue, adding: "We want those who tried to spread fear to feel fear themselves." Charon even suggested that Dati might have been involved in some kind of "organised plot" against the president, involving Anglo-Saxon financiers. You can blame the bankers for anything you like nowadays, but even the Socialists
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began feeling sorry for Dati, who not so long ago was being tipped to become France's first female-conservative-single-mum-Muslim president. Meanwhile, two employees of a website run by the Journal du Dimanche were ignominiously sacked for having posted the original infidelity rumours, even though they had solely provided technical assistance to the anonymous author. Terror, indeed. The tone and ferocity of the presidential couple's vengeful campaign hardly becomes a modern, democratic republic where everyone should be equal before the law even the purveyors of unfounded web chat. The tools of the security state, and especially its intelligence services, should not be placed at the hands of an increasingly self-absorbed couple looking to punish their enemies. Sarkozy has an appalling record in this respect, once even ordering a top level police hunt including DNA swipes for a scooter which had been stolen from one of his sons. Whatever the substance of rumours surrounding the president and Bruni-Sarkozy, you can't help feeling that they are those of a country that is growing increasingly dissatisfied with a leader whose desire for a high-profile, glamorous lifestyle is matched only by his wife's. And look what happened the last time that happened.
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polishsupporter 9 April 2010 11:40AM Will he end up getting his head cut off then?
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Damntheral 9 April 2010 11:40AM I'm not sure who ever tipped Dati to become president. It is certainly the first time I hear this. She is not a heavyweight. Your conclusion is a bit hyperbolic. Mitterrand and Chirac both abused their function massively and never had to answer for it. I doubt Sarkozy will either. Duballiland 9 April 2010 11:40AM

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This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn't abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. LtSlick 9 April 2010 11:42AM what the latest scandal teaches us is that the court of the French head of state is as vindictive and cruel as it was in the days of Marie Antoinette and her husband Louis XVI. Oh, I think it's much worse than that. The mighty nosed dwarf has well and truely gone off the deep end. Napolean would be a better comparison. And on the paranoia scale he's not far off Hitler during the latter days of the fall of the Reich... I mean that purely in the scale of the paranoia... not the actions in total. He's mental and despite a potential to change aspects of France to make it more viable, and stem the exodus of young professionals to London and elsewhere, he focuses on some random tabloid bullshit. Credit to whoever it who does want him overthrown mind, they certainly smacked the right nerve! GeorgeLloyd 9 April 2010 11:45AM Louis XIV might have been the "sun king", but Sarkozy seems to imagine that it shines out of his own ar$e... a dreadful case of SMS, I fear. Koolio 9 April 2010 11:50AM Plus ca change. The French President is effectively a monach, only elected for a five year term. Mitterand bugged rivals, Chirac enjoyed the brown envelopes and fonds secrets. Until the French wake up and demand a better system of government they will continue to get more of the same. You can't place such power in the hands of one individual. It attracts the wrong people and even a saint would become corrupt. Sarkozy is only a symptom, he is not the cause. Damntheral 9 April 2010 11:50AM @Dubaliland It's also better than catching scarlet fever, sucking on mothballs or swallowing rat poison. Recommend (1) Responses (0) Report
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PrimroseandBlue 9 April 2010 12:03PM Nabila, it's not great, but is it less ethical than when Mitterrand used to have Carole Bouquet bugged because he fancied her? I think not.

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Battistan 9 April 2010 12:05PM Shabby little Frenchman.

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ProfessorPlums 9 April 2010 12:25PM The tools of the security state, and especially its intelligence services, should not be placed at the hands of an increasingly self-absorbed couple looking to punish their enemies. Surely this is simply a perk of the job, non? MiddleEnglandLefty 9 April 2010 12:36PM Duballiland 9 Apr 2010, 11:40AM It's better than Gordon Brown's method of firing stationary and mobile phones around while threatening people. Indeed better than Chavez's method of using the state media to lambast weekly anyone who opposes him. ...and its infinitely better than Castro and the other Cuban dictatorial staff who just lock up those who threaten them. We have an election here in Britain with a real choice to make, the French had there's and choose well. Labour is Gordon Brown, who yesterday said he, if elected (God forbid), would serve another five years as Prime Minister. If that isn't the shortest suicide note in history, then Micheal Foot's 1983 manifesto was not the longest. What rank hypocrisy, if this was a story about the Browns you'd be howling your outrage but you can't see past your partisan ranting. Toolow 9 April 2010 12:41PM

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Carla Bruni has been much loved around the world - especially by short, money-obsessed control freaks of a certain age and heel size........Le Monde made it clear that she called for revenge following the infidelity rumours, yet she appeared on TV in her usual creepy manner pretending that all was sweetness and light. Her awful songs are full of nauseating double speak too (so I'm told). kizbot 9 April 2010 12:41PM I'm having trouble caring what either of this slimy pair do.... they just make me go eeewww! AJM1969 9 April 2010 12:42PM This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn't abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. ukguyinfrance 9 April 2010 12:53PM The French do not detest Carla Bruni, they are jealous of her in the most petty and vincictive way possible. Any woman in the public eye here is reviled if she got there by herself (Dati did not get herself where she was, remember, she was parachuted into the government), there are less women in the French parliament than in most other western countries, and machism is rife. The French are fed up with Sarkozy, true, but you need to understand that they are fed up with EVERYTHING AND EVERYBODY right now. The country is going through a severe identity crisis, notably due to the realisation that France is not the influential country it used to be. Their knee-jerk anti AngloSaxonism isn't helping either because they have painted themselves into a corner with it. Concerning this particular "scandal", Sarkozy loused up big time. By initiating an investigation (which is no longer in doubt) he gave the issue much more press coverage than it would otherwise have got. savernake 9 April 2010 12:55PM Wonderfully Waugh-esque piece of writing. Congratulations!
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"Dati, who not so long ago was being tipped to become France's first female-conservative-single-mum-Muslim president. " in your dreams? LtSlick 9 April 2010 1:02PM kizbot That's because you don't live in a country currently managed by one of them... Being as I am unequivocally tied to the French (well one) I can safely say that given what is in France we could do without this megolmaniac short arse going off the deep end. lazymindsdislike 9 April 2010 1:13PM Dati appears more to me as someone who had a disastrous impact as minister of justice. I wished more articles in the Guardian about REAL political issues than about celebrity talk. Maybe even reading about work fights&strikes in neoliberal superficial Britain, would be interesting.Is it truly so social "quiet" on the Island? Only distract from reality hip fashion&glamour noises or whom do I vote for from in this 3 colour, same abuse party? pretzelberg 9 April 2010 1:19PM Charon even suggested that Dati might have been involved in some kind of "organised plot" against the president, involving Anglo-Saxon financiers. Oh, please - perfidious Albion again? Otherwise, I assume the author made her choice of historical precedent with Bruni in mind - but surely Nicky boy's more reminiscent of Louis XIV? And what has happened to Bruni? That pic of her above reminds me of David Hasselhoff. Yes -when he's plastered. nothing3 9 April 2010 1:21PM Forgetting all the grim allusions to affairs of state (or inter-ministerial "karaoke sessions" as one of Sarkozy's more entertaining wives once described them) Was that Bruni-Sarkozy, who said that then?? Not sure I
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understand that bit, but otherwise an interesting an amusing article. I think his behaviour as President is symptomatic of the system, as someone says above. Comparisons with Louis XVI seem a little far-fetched though. lazymindsdislike 9 April 2010 1:26PM I guess the article writer knows "everything" about Louis XVI through a film depicting Marie Antoinette as obsessed with petit fours. ukguyinfrance 9 April 2010 1:40PM Hello Pretzelberg "Oh, please - perfidious Albion again?" Of course! It's always our fault. Except, that is, when it's the Americans' fault. It's all gotten completely unreal, if not downright unhealthy. For example, how could anything or anyone rational explain the fact that at the same time the French consistently blame their financial woes mainly on the euro (around 70% in polls) they never stop asking me personally, or the UK in press articles, why Britain did not adopt the euro as they "should have done"!! I mean, I love France, but the inconsistencies of life here are quite amusing. To their credit though, they recognise the phenomena themselves and often talk about the "Paradoxe franais." Another good example is the incompatibility of the mission of the "rayonnement de la culture franaise" which is supposed to spread French culture around the world as a goggiven assignment, with the "Exception culturelle franaise" which means amongst other things that they slap limiting quotas on the amount of foreign (read Anglo-Saxon) music that can be played on their radio stations. As I say though, gotta love 'em! :) zombus 9 April 2010 2:27PM Look, we all know Sarkozy's mad. But it's a Tom Sharpe-type madness that he exhibits, completely overt and obvious. It's far more healthy for everyone than the veiled, clandestine, quite appalling career of entitlement lived out by that sinister bugger Chirac behind whatever conventional front was expected of him. It seems that, democratic or no, the French system allows its Presidents to do literally what they want to an extent not available to British premiers or royals, and Sarkozy, carrying on like a mad little Greek godlet, is quite intoxicated by this and

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can't take it. I love the little man. Like, again, your standard Tom Sharpe anti-hero, he just doesn't know the code. But the code itself strikes one as fairly ridiculous and worth being sent up. But I don't think Dati is going to end up in the Seine. Not at Sarkozy's request, anyway. What loose cannons and rogue elements in the security services might get up to is another matter. These also seem to an enjoy a remarkable freedom to do whatever they like. Damntheral 9 April 2010 2:32PM @ukguyinfrance This "exception" business is fascinating. The expression was originally "cultural exception" and it was forged at the time of negotiations on the now defunct General Agreement on Tariffs and Trades. It had no chauvinistic connotations: what it meant was that culture is an exceptional sector which should not be left entirely at the mercy of market forces. But a lot of the actors and singers and other witless artists who were wheeled out by their respective industries to campaign on this completely misunderstood its meaning and thought it meant not that culture is an exceptional sector which must be preserved but rather that France is an exceptionally cultured country which musn't be corrupted by the barbarians. So it gradually became "French cultural exception". A few years ago the dimwit J-M Messier, then head of Vivendi Universal, announced gravely that the "French exception" was over and this prompted a lengthy nationwide of exactly what constitutes the "French exception", with few seeming to notice that he had pretty much forged the term at the same time he announced its demise. It's all pretty weird to me because when I lived in France (until 1994) it wasn't a chauvinistic country at all, but it's gradually changed. Part of it came from this GATT campaign, part of it from the late 90s football victories, but a lot of it seems to stem from paranoia. I have no idea what the "anglo-saxon model" the French keep going on about it. They seem to think that the UK and US are identical societies to start with. The radio quotas are a much older business, they date back from the 80s. Amusingly they can probably be credited for the success of mostly instrumental acts like Daft Punk, Air etc... Damntheral 9 April 2010 2:36PM *a lengthy nationwide debate of exactly what ... Recommend (0) Responses (0) Report
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dornadair 9 April 2010 2:38PM @Duballiland Well done in managing to shoe-horn a criticism of Gordon Brown into a completely unrelated article. Give me strength Galatzy 9 April 2010 2:40PM Hey ukguyinfrance As a Belgian currently living in the south east of France, I don't remember of anyone talking of "Paradoxe franais" or worse "Exception culturelle franaise". It does sound more than something of the nineties we must link with Jacques Toubon (former minister, fortunately out of race) and Maurice Druon (former member of the Acadmie Franaise, fortunately dead). Ask any of the 20-35 years old generation, they don't give a damn about a possible "Exception culturelle franaise", they are proud of their culture, that's all. Nabila Ramdani The French president's techniques to uncover the source of rumours would not have been out of place in the ancien rgime As somebody points it out earlier, just take in consideration the both former presidents Mitterrand and Chirac instead of thinking your dreams will be soon realized with a Sarkozy/Louis XVI beheaded. To become a real king of the ancien rgime, Sarkozy should have done what Mohammed VI did recently in Morocco, suspend any newspapers or websites saying something bad of him or more surprising just proposing a poll about his popularity among his fellows subjects. steena 9 April 2010 2:44PM When you elect a bling bling in-your-face President you have to put up with this stuff - my french friends tell me they don't care about the private lives of public people.... so why was this the number one topic of conversation this morning at the machine caf? Damntheral 9 April 2010 2:56PM Le Monde made it clear that she called for revenge following the infidelity rumours
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No it didn't. SarahGY 9 April 2010 3:08PM ukguyinfrance 9 Apr 2010, 1:40PM "Of course! It's always our fault. Except, that is, when it's the Americans' fault. " Maybe you don't live in France, or have a very stereotyping view of things. Noone here has ever accused "the British" or the "Americans" of the "anglo-saxons" to have something to do in this rumors. I read this only in the British press. About Carla Bruni: there is no hate or jealousy, she is just a very easy target for the jokes and she is a bargain for the humorists Another point: People in France could not care less about "the political influence of France". It is never discussed in the press, in the debates, during the political campaigns. I think people see their country as significant at a european level, and small in the world stage. From a foreigner point of view, coming from a country, Belgium, which is small and has no power, it feels like France and GB are both former world powers, who now have a diminished role, but the difference is that the French have been long aware of that, whereas the British just begin to realize it. Keo2008 9 April 2010 3:11PM Louis XVI and his wife had many bad features, but they did not do "vindictive and cruel". On the contrary, there are many historians who believe he could have avoided or survived the Revolution had he been more ruthless and vindictive. Clevo 9 April 2010 3:17PM At least the French Republic has a written constitution, to which people can legally refer if the persident appears to exceed his powers. So far, no legal challenge. And he's doing all this without an eminence grise behind the curtain, whether of Cardinal status or gentleman politician. In our super democracy,if Blair takes decisions by using powers originally belonging to Charles the First who fell into dispute, then we cannot throw stones at anyone. People my age rmember living under <Moi> de Gaulle. Now that's another story. borisvian7 9 April 2010 3:21PM Recommend (2) Responses (0) Recommend (1) Responses (0) Report
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Yes, mademoiselle, we have seen the "Le Monde" article too. And yes, he's perfectly justified to go and try to unmask the sleazy rumour mongers so indicative of this here 24/7 Tw*tter PopBitch TMZ 3 a.m. gossip culcha. What is this, "The S*n"?!!! Long soupir... borisvian7 9 April 2010 3:29PM Exhibit A: "Whatever the substance of rumours surrounding the president and Bruni-Sarkozy" -what is this supposed to mean, miss? For the record, I detest the man but that is not the point, the point is: let's rehash pathetic, baseless, obviously sexual rumours as the US republicans do, whip up them up in an anti-Sarkozy sorry, anti-"Sarko"- cheap shot, drop some pop-history references, mix them with unrelated news items and sound oh so clever, chic and "bobo". ThomasY 9 April 2010 3:33PM Presumably Dati lost her limo and bodyguards because she is no longer in the government? ThomasY 9 April 2010 3:34PM Sarko is a hardman who will do what it takes. Louis was a workshy fop who lost his head because he was too easygoing, not because he was a brute AFColonel 9 April 2010 3:51PM France always has been a Police State, so nothing in this story surprises me. The big surprise was that Sarkkozy was elected in the first place. ukguyinfrance 9 April 2010 4:00PM SarahGY "Noone here has ever accused "the British" or the "Americans" of the "anglo-saxons" to have something to do in this rumors. I read this only in the British press." Oh really? Do you imagine I made it all up? How about if you read the French press then?http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-
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actu/2010/04/09/97001-20100409FILWWW00461rumeurssarkozy-biolay-assigne-france-24.php" rel="nofollow"> "La chane avait voqu des articles de la presse britannique faisant tat d'"une msentente" entre le chef de l'Etat et son pouse." Same for Carla Bruni. Have you forgotten the "We too get f***** by the President" chant by demonstrators that has become a byline? As for French influence, there are tens of books available on the subject, many of which were written by politicians. And Sarkozy's failed Copenhagen initiative? Don't you remember the soul-searching that went on afterwards? I am not sure you read the French press or listen to French opinion. Whatever, I did make it clear that my comment was made in a light-hearted vein. Mind you, some people can't take criticism of any sort I suppose. "Of course! It's always our fault. Except, that is, when it's the Americans' fault. " Maybe you don't live in France, or have a very stereotyping view of things. Noone here has ever accused "the British" or the "Americans" of the "anglo-saxons" to have something to do in this rumors. I read this only in the British press. About Carla Bruni: there is no hate or jealousy, she is just a very easy target for the jokes and she is a bargain for the humorists Another point: People in France could not care less about "the political influence of France". It is never discussed in the press, in the debates, during the political campaigns. I think people see their country as significant at a european level, and small in the world stage. From a foreigner point of view, coming from a country, Belgium, which is small and has no power, it feels like France and GB are both former world powers, who now have a diminished role, but the difference is that the French have been long aware of that, whereas the British just begin to realize it. maroule71 9 April 2010 4:08PM "Dati, who not so long ago was being tipped to become France's first female-conservative-single-mum-Muslim president. " Nabila, now you are totally making that up... I have never heard or seen in any way shape or form any reference to it, anywhere... ukguyinfrance 9 April 2010 4:12PM Hi Galatzy, So you haven't heard anyone talk about the Paradoxe Franais? Well try this then. It's on the paradox of French immigration policy. There are lots of others, from food to concentration camps. All written by French people. There is a lot about the

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paradox (as some see it) between the apparent incompatibility between Libert and galit too. That one's been around for ever. Even Chateaubriand wrote about it! You don't hear anything about the exception culturelle franaise? Here's Wikipedia's FRENCH page version and there are literally hundreds of entries on Google. Do you have all evening lol? C'mon. As I said to SarahGY, I didn't make this up you know! :) Damntheral 9 April 2010 4:18PM SarahGY has a point. Nabila Ramdani wrote: Charon even suggested that Dati might have been involved in some kind of "organised plot" against the president, involving Anglo-Saxon financiers. I just looked the quote up carefully (it's from Rue 89), and Ramdani seems to have added the "anglo-saxon" bit! Charon said: Pour que la peur change de camp, il fallait qu'il y ait une procdure judiciaire. Maintenant, on va voir s'il n'y a pas une espce de complot organis, avec des mouvements financiers, pourquoi pas? borisvian7 9 April 2010 4:18PM Indeed Maroule, the Guardian's enthusiastic praise of the notorious Rachida Dati has never ceased to be a source of wonder -and hilarity. FelixKrull 9 April 2010 4:44PM @Keo2008 Agree completely. The problem with Louis XVI's court was that they were snubbed by both the king and his wife and that money and power flowed to a bevvy of fortune hunters and con men. They were both beautiful persons, but neither of them were ruler material. Louis could be excused, cretin that he was and raised at Louis XV's court, but Marie Antoinette was a Habsburger, by all account a smart girl and her formidable mother did everything she could to advise her. To no avail. It never seemed to dawn on her what responsibilities her position entailed. Marie Antoinette could've been the most powerful and most loved French queen ever, but she blew it monumentally. SarahGY 9 April 2010 4:50PM Recommend (5) Responses (0) Report

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ukguyinfrance -It is not an accusation ! It is an observation, yes, the first articles about Carla Bruni's supposed affairs were written in the British press. No one here "accused" the British(and let alone the "anglo-saxons"!), no one said it was a "british plot", the article you quoted just said the British press was the first... -""We too get f***** by the President" " ? I never heard that, but, again, it is not jealousy or hate, it is a joke, as I said she is a very easy target for that, with her past, her attitude ... Do you really think women in France seriously envy her and are "jealous"? Mind you some people can do irony ;) -As for French influence, if some books have been written, about that, it is not an important concern for the peopele. It is maybe, like in any country, a subject of books, or essays, in a certain circle (political analysts, journalists, professor etc) but certainly not among the people. It is never discussed during the national campaign, because people are not interested... After Copenhagen, the polemic in France was about the "taxe carbonne": a purely national matter... ukguyinfrance 9 April 2010 4:57PM Hi SarahGY, Oh, the taxe carbone. What a mess huh lol?! I hope they salvage it somehow. As for Carla, as one good editorial I read said (here on the Guardian I think), if the French don't want her, they can send her to us lol!! I find her elegant and conscientious. Oh, and have you seen her website? Pretty cool! Much better than Sgo's horrible Windows wallpaper effort! :) Besides, all this could be past history soon. Have you read the rumours (yip, them again) that say she is trying to persuade Nico not to run for prez in 2012? Now THAT would be news!! :) francaise 9 April 2010 4:59PM Minable? Moi!
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Libert, galit, Fraternit is only an old fashioned motto from their revolution, If you think that the French really believe in that, well I'm deeply sorry for you. It's like to ask me about the motto of my country, Belgium Strength Through Unity, that's a higher paradox than the one you want to point out with France. Looking at the French wiki article you gave me : 1- tagged lacking of references, 2- the article is obviously unfinished, 3- have you looked into the discussion section cos it's damn interesting. 4- finally, French wikipedia is a known mess. Of course, I did hear about exception culturelle franaise but not anymore as that was one hype of the nineties being related with the perpetual decline of French culture. Look at the wiki article you gave, only two guys trying to deal with in three years... Amazing ! Friendlyfrog 9 April 2010 5:01PM Hope he will! Ah a ira a ira a ira... FelixKrull 9 April 2010 5:08PM @ukguyinFrance Why would you want a celebrity whore like Bruni? It has been claimed that Bruni was involved with Louis Bertignac, Mick Jagger (Jagger's wife acknowledged his affair with Bruni was a reason for their separation), Eric Clapton, Los Carax, Charles Berling, Arno Klarsfeld, Vincent Perez[21] and former French Prime Minister Laurent Fabius.[22][23] She has said she is easily "bored with monogamy", and that "love lasts a long time, but burning desire ? two to three weeks".[23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carla_BruniSarkozy#Relationships Recommend (0) Responses (0) Report
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