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http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Variable-High-Voltage-Power-Supply/
Image Notes 1. Input Voltage Adjustment which varies the output voltage from 0 to 50 Kv in (100) 500volt steps. 2. This is the feedthru insulator and the stud in the middle is the output. 3. The case is an old Texas Instruments TI99 computer box. Any metal case will do. 4. HV ON pushbutton and indicator. 5. Power Switch and READY indicator. 6. Removable top cover for easy maintenance
Image Notes 1. This test was at 25,000 Volts or 50 percent setting on my supply. The bright blue white spark is evidence of high current and lots of ultraviolet rays.
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Image Notes 1. Case Safety Switch used to cut power when the case is opened. 2. AC Power Adaptor also has a fuse holder built in. If yours doesn't, you will need to add a 5 amp fuse with a holder to the list 3. Power Contactor or Relay for controlling the HV Circuit. 4. Variac for input voltage control. 5. Oil Burner Transformer produces 6000 volts AC at 20 Milliamps for the multiplier on right 6. Multiplier for raising the 6000 volts to 50,000 volts at the same current. 7. High Voltage Start switch with indicator. 8. Power switch and indicator 9. Added back panel
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Variable-High-Voltage-Power-Supply/
Image Notes 1. Case Safety Switch used to cut power when the case is opened. 2. AC Power Adaptor also has a fuse holder built in. If yours doesn't, you will need to add a 5 amp fuse with a holder to the list 3. Power Contactor or Relay for controlling the HV Circuit. 4. Variac for input voltage control. 5. Oil Burner Transformer produces 6000 volts AC at 20 Milliamps for the multiplier on right 6. Multiplier for raising the 6000 volts to 50,000 volts at the same current. 7. High Voltage Start switch with indicator. 8. Power switch and indicator 9. Added back panel
Image Notes
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Variable-High-Voltage-Power-Supply/
Image Notes 1. Input Voltage Adjustment which varies the output voltage from 0 to 50 Kv in (100) 500volt steps. 2. This is the feedthru insulator and the stud in the middle is the output. 3. The case is an old Texas Instruments TI99 computer box. Any metal case will do. 4. HV ON pushbutton and indicator. 5. Power Switch and READY indicator. 6. Removable top cover for easy maintenance
Image Notes 1. This test was at 25,000 Volts or 50 percent setting on my supply. The bright blue white spark is evidence of high current and lots of ultraviolet rays.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-Variable-High-Voltage-Power-Supply/
VOLTAGE STUD DURING OPERATION. THIS THING WILL KILL YOU! GROUND THE STUD AFTER EACH SHUTDOWN TO DRAIN ANY REMAINING POTENTIAL.
Image Notes 1. This test was at 25,000 Volts or 50 percent setting on my supply. The bright blue white spark is evidence of high current and lots of ultraviolet rays.
Image Notes 1. Input Voltage Adjustment which varies the output voltage from 0 to 50 Kv in (100) 500volt steps. 2. This is the feedthru insulator and the stud in the middle is the output. 3. The case is an old Texas Instruments TI99 computer box. Any metal case will do. 4. HV ON pushbutton and indicator. 5. Power Switch and READY indicator. 6. Removable top cover for easy maintenance
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Aug 31, 2008. 9:41 AM REPLY
TheMadScientist says:
earlier somebody said this has the power to drive tesla coils. you need DC to drive a tesla coil. therefore, you cannot.
burningsuntech says:
Mad Scientist Actually, You can drive a tesla coil with this device cause its output is pulsating DC and yes, it has the power to drive one.
As far as the Diodes are concerned, a check on Ebay revealed some serious diodes that would set you back a few hundred dollars if money is no object. A ten amp diode at 20Kv will set you back nearly $150 and you need six in this configuration. My only question would be where you going to get a case and enough oil to drop THAT in? Raving Apache
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TheMadScientist says:
Aug 31, 2008. 9:43 AM REPLY love the voltage multiplier btw. but you need some hardass diodes once you get further up the ladder. tell me where you find yours please. not microwave gunn's either.
bombmaker2 says:
i cant find any dpst relays
burningsuntech says:
Jun 28, 2008. 10:50 AM REPLY I salvaged mine from an old dehumidifier but any relay will work if the contacts support 5 amps of current at 120 volts AC. Also look for them as 'contactors'. Raving Apache
bombmaker2 says:
thanks
Derinsleep says:
will this work for lower voltages
burningsuntech says:
Derinsleep This will work for any AC voltage up to the maximum of the diodes, in this case 12000 volts.
Derinsleep says:
thank you
alexhalford says:
Presumably this would be perfect for a jacob's ladder or a telsa coil supply??? Also could you use a flyback for the HV transformer?
burningsuntech says:
alexhalford This definitely has the power to drive a jacobs ladder or a tesla coil. Just the OBT alone works as a nice jacobs ladder.
In this design, you cannot use a flyback without some form of step down from AC mains. Also, the flyback is designed to operate at 15.750 KHz whereas this device runs at 60 Hz. You would need a circuit to produce the 15 KHz input. The multiplier would work with a flyback, though. Many TV sets have these multipliers built into the flyback as they are. raving apache If you were using only the multiplier section of this device then
alexhalford says:
OK thanks very much. BTW, do ignition coils powered by square wave pulsed DC generate high voltage AC or DC??? Thanks Again Alex
burningsuntech says:
Apr 17, 2008. 4:47 AM REPLY Alex AC implies that in some way the output signal is positive then negative with respect to ground. DC implies that the output is either positive or negative with respect to ground but does not alternate between the two. With a square wave input from ground to positive and back, the output would be a pulsating DC high voltage. Remember. Transformers of all types are AC or Pulsating DC devices. They cannot operate on pure DC. raving apache
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alexhalford says:
Apr 17, 2008. 11:16 AM REPLY Thats what i thought... but in that case how is this setup appropriate: Above that diagram is written this text: This next circuit is designed for a higher powered output. Two ignition Coils are connected in parallel but with opposite polarity. This means that the output voltages of each coil are out of phase or opposite to each other (when one is positive, the other is negative). Using this configuration the output is taken from the two coils output terminals, whereas the circuit above uses the output terminal and ground. If the ignition coil is not AC and therefore never goes negative, how can the above be appropriate??? Thanks for all your help btw.
burningsuntech says:
Apr 18, 2008. 5:28 PM REPLY Note: AC is defined as the alternating input of a current between two values. The fact that the values may be +10KV and ground does not negate the device as an alternating current device. Most people think of AC as a current that varies above and below ground but AC can be any current that varies between two positive values or negative values or between a positive and a negative value. It all depends on what your point of reference is. raving apache
alexhalford says:
Thanks very much it makes sense now. Alex
burningsuntech says:
Apr 18, 2008. 5:21 PM REPLY Alex All thats really happening here is the switching of the input to two coils, both of which are ISOLATED from ground. Therefore, their output floats above or below ground. Believe me. If you touch one of the coil HV leads and ground, you're gonna get it! The coils produce 10KV Pulsating DC out of phase from each other. Therefore, the voltage across the two HV leads is 20 KV. One lead will be +10KV and the other will be - 10KV with respect to ground or 20 KV with respect to each other. raving apache
Ferrite says:
Feb 29, 2008. 6:53 PM REPLY Does the power supply supply a continuous voltage or just a single pulse? If it is continuous it would be good for a laser power supply.
burningsuntech says:
Ferrite The output is pulsating DC and the reason I built it is to power a UV laser.
Don't worry about filtering but be sure to use a current limiting resistor in series with the laser tube or you will destroy the tube. To calculate the proper value, use Ohms Law R = E / I Good Luck and stay in touch. I would be interested to hear how you made out raving apache
bsibille says:
If the diodes limit the current, what is the need for the resistor? Thanks!
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burningsuntech says:
Apr 17, 2008. 6:48 PM REPLY The diodes are 12 Kv PIV 550ma doides. They do not limit the current but they themselves cannot be used above 550ma. Since the supply is an open ended supply, that is it has no built in load, a current limiting resistor is required on all devices connected to it that do not need 20ma (the total source surrent of this supply). In other words. The supply will try to supply current all the way up to its short circuit point if you do not control the load with a limiting resistor. raving apavhe
Ferrite says:
Thanks! I haven't built a laser yet, but plan to soon.
agis68 says:
Excellent project, and very carefully done! Of course you can replace the VT1 with one of 220V for european countries.
burningsuntech says:
Thanks Agis
Any neon sign or oil burner transformer of either mains voltage will do as long as you follow proper wiring procedure and pay attention to the specs of all the components. Raving Apache
agis68 says:
Thanks again...i will try to make one and i will be in touch with you for any detail... @gis
bwana says:
could the output of two neon transformers be connected in series? (to boost arc size for a jacobs ladder)
burningsuntech says:
bwana
you cannot place two neon transformers in series as the output of the first would most certainly cause damage to the second. Instead, why not just add more stages to the multiplier. It currently has 6. Please see the link to the multiplier for more info on it. raving apache
alexhalford says:
Also what current will this put out???
alexhalford says:
hi could you use a neon sign transformer instead of an oil burner transformer???
burningsuntech says:
Mar 29, 2008. 8:04 PM REPLY alex You can substitute a neon transformer for the OBT. The OBT was what I had on hand at the time. Both types of transformers have current limiting windings in them. As designed, this device will source up to 20ma at 50Kv raving apache
sounder says:
Nov 18, 2007. 7:06 PM REPLY Could an automobile ignition coil be used in place of the OBT? I know the ignition coil is an autotrans with a common point between pri. and sec. windings but the turns ratio is so much higher that the voltage multiplier wouldn't be necessary.
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burningsuntech says:
Nov 18, 2007. 8:21 PM REPLY Perhaps. The two devices are similar but the Auto coil is a pulsed DC high voltage, low current device whereas the OBT is an AC high voltage, high current device. Ive attempted to drive an auto coil with 12 VAC only to find it getting hot and not able to produce the current I was looking for or the spark length I wanted. If you decide to build one with an Auto coil, let me know how you make out.
static says:
Mar 3, 2008. 10:33 PM REPLY Comparing an auto ignition coil operation to an AC transformer operation is comparing apples to oranges. While the ignition coil is constructed like an autotransformer, it's not a transformer per Se. DC flows through the ignition coil primary for enough time to create strong magnetic field. Current is produced in the secondary when the current through the primary is turn off and the mgnetic field collapses. I suppose if an ignition coil was feed AC of a frequency near what coil sees when doing the job it was designed for it MAY operate as conventional AC transformer. Problem is that would be at least 800 Hz.
membrane says:
Nov 18, 2007. 8:14 PM REPLY An NST or neon sign transformer could be used instead of the furnace transformer in a circuit like this and actually would work better then the OBT as NST are inductively current limited so they're less likely to self destruct if shorted. An automotive ignition coil would yield less milliamperes but higher voltage as some do operate at 50KV but you would need some sorta DC PWM circuit vs a variac as hooking 120v AC to a 12v coil would be a bad idea.
burningsuntech says:
Roger that, membrane. NSTs do work well and would be a good choice. The OBT is what was onhand.
Fro says:
Dec 2, 2007. 1:47 PM REPLY Seems like a really great project and I might just build something similar, but I didn't really understand if the output is AC or DC. Also, in place of a variac could you use a basic light dimmer since they're much cheaper, or does the fact that they chop up the sine waves cause problems?
burningsuntech says:
Dec 2, 2007. 3:10 PM REPLY Hey Fro The output is pulsating DC or unfiltered DC. As for the dimmer, you can use one rated for inductive loads like motors and, in this case, transformers. Standard light dimmers are for resistive loads like incandescent lamps and would not work. The only exception would be to use a dimmer directly into the multiplier and leave out the OBT. Make the multiplier large enough and you could drive it directly from the AC line. BTW the output of the dimmer doesn't matter if noise on the output doesnt bother any circuits attached. Good luck. BST
Fro says:
thanks
littlechef37 says:
Nov 19, 2007. 10:07 PM REPLY awesome man, nice instructable id love to make one but im not that resourceful and it would be a hazard!!!!!! in my hands any idea on how to make a smaller one for running motors and stuff ?
burningsuntech says:
Nov 20, 2007. 1:53 PM REPLY Hey littlechef thanks for the compliment. Depends on what you are running. Any AC motor could be run from a device similar to this if you had a large enough Variac. This one is too small for most AC motors and is for lights only or in this case loads that draw no more than 2.5 amps. Your best bet for AC motor control is a triac with a variable pot to control the speed For DC motors you would need a special controller or a large Rheostat tha could handle the current. Google some of the terms in my reply and find a circuit tha will do the job. BST
littlechef37 says:
thanks
bumsugger says:
Nice one "burningsuntech" a very neat and accurate "build," great device!
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burningsuntech says:
Thanks bumsugger. It took awhile to put together and document. Im looking to sharing more on this subject in the future.
xrobevansx says:
That case isn't *exactly* a TI99 4/A "case" so to speak. Isn;t it a Ti 99 4/A hard drive case?
burningsuntech says:
Nov 18, 2007. 6:01 AM REPLY Yes it is. But who would remember that far back in computer history anyway. You and me maybe. Thanks for the clarification.
membrane says:
Nov 18, 2007. 8:06 PM REPLY Looks like the TI 99/4a PEB or peripheral expansion box it added 8 expansion slots to the 99/4a I actually own a functional example.
xrobevansx says:
40 megs if I remember correctly. A POWERHOUSE!!!!
!Andrew_Modder! says:
Nov 17, 2007. 6:51 PM REPLY omfg! that is crazy man! That is really awesome, but honestly i cant think of anything that would be able to run up to 50,000 volts :-P! Hey, also couldnt you make plasma, or a tesla coil with that, cause its really f'ing high voltage :-)? ...1st
membrane says:
An adjustable HV psu in this range also is useful for powering those antigravity lifters or a Marx HV pulse generator.
burningsuntech says:
Well, not just high voltage stuff. im planning a laser project and need to adjust the voltage for tuning. Conceivably, you could build a large enough stack in the multiplier to get to 500,000 volts or more but it is very costly. Thx
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