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I was horrified to find that HUDA office at Chandigarh has discontinued recognising MS from US as a valid structural engg certification for signing off structural stabilty certificate & building structural drawings as rquired by them. The rule is the engineer must have an "M.Tech Structures". I'm not aware of any college in the US that grants a degree with these words. Even
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a PhD from Imperial College Lndon in not good enough because it says PhD "Concrete Technology". Supplimentary info such as transcripts to prove that all courses were structural is not cutting any ice. Suddenly we are illiterate. Their primary objection is the word "Structures" no shown anywhere on the degrees. Suddenly even emminent professors who taught us are also illiterate. I am wondering whether others are facing this problem & if so something can be done to straighten things out. Regards, Vipul Ahuja
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Poste d: 10 May 2012 07:10 (Haryana Post subje ct: No re cognition of USA & UK MS/PHD De gre e s--HUDA
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This is completely unacceptable, Vipul. You think SEFI should write an official note to HUDA? As also IASE, ACCE, ISSE, IE(I) etc. regards,
Alpa On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM, ahujavipul <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
Quote: I was horrified to find that HUDA office at C handigarh has discontinued recognising MS from US as a valid structural engg certification for signing off structural stabilty certificate & building structural drawings as rquired by them. The rule is the engineer must have an "M.Tech Structures". I'm not aware of any college in the US that grants a degree with these words. Even a PhD from Imperial C ollege Lndon in not good enough because it says PhD "C oncrete Technology". Supplimentary info such as transcripts to prove that all courses were structural is not cutting any ice. Suddenly we are illiterate. Their primary objection is the word "Structures" no shown anywhere on the degrees.
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"Structures" no shown anywhere on the degrees. Suddenly even emminent professors who taught us are also illiterate. I am wondering whether others are facing this problem & if so something can be done to straighten things out. Regards, Vipul Ahuja
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I think this is a clerical mistake. The clerk who checks the degree certificates is definitely illiterate, but this is no surprise. However, you can go and meet the Chief Engineer or the Chief Architect and they should be able to resolve the issue, because ultimately they have to use the services of competent people. Regards, Vinay Mehta
From: ahujavipul [mailto:forum@sefindia.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:56 AM To: general@sefindia.org Subject: [SEFI] No recognition of USA & UK MS/PHD Degrees--HUDA (Haryana)
I was horrified to find that HUDA office at Chandigarh has discontinued recognising MS from US as a valid structural engg certification for signing off structural stabilty certificate & building structural drawings as rquired by them. The rule is the engineer must have an "M.Tech Structures". I'm not aware of any college in the US that grants a degree with these words. Even a PhD from Imperial College Lndon in not good enough because it says PhD "Concrete Technology". Supplimentary info such as transcripts to prove that all courses were structural is not cutting any ice. Suddenly we are illiterate. Their primary objection is the word "Structures" no shown anywhere on the degrees. Suddenly even emminent professors who taught us are also illiterate. I am wondering whether others are facing this problem & if so something can be done to straighten things out. Regards, Vipul Ahuja Posted via Email
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This is such a naive excuse by HUDA. I dont understand what they have running in their minds.
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However, Is M.Tech in Structural Engineering from any of the Indian universities recognised in US or UK, or even in European countries?
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM, ahujavipul <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
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On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM, ahujavipul <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
Quote: I was horrified to find that HUDA office at C handigarh has discontinued recognising MS from US as a valid structural engg certification for signing off structural stabilty certificate & building structural drawings as rquired by them. The rule is the engineer must have an "M.Tech Structures". I'm not aware of any college in the US that grants a degree with these words. Even a PhD from Imperial C ollege Lndon in not good enough because it says PhD "C oncrete Technology". Supplimentary info such as transcripts to prove that all courses were structural is not cutting any ice. Suddenly we are illiterate. Their primary objection is the word "Structures" no shown anywhere on the degrees. Suddenly even emminent professors who taught us are also illiterate. I am wondering whether others are facing this problem & if so something can be done to straighten things out. Regards, Vipul Ahuja
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Poste d: 10 May 2012 16:50 HUDA (Har Post subje ct: R e : No re cognition of USA & UK MS/PHD De gre e s--
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Alpa, I have written to IASE the following as a seed letter. Hope we can domething similar via other associations.
Best regards Vipul ************** Address letter to DIRECTOR GENERAL (Kind Attn: MR. T.C. GUPTA)
TOWN & COUNTRY PLANNING, HARYANA SECTOR 18, CHANDIGARH- 160018 CC: CHIEF TOWN & COUNTRY PLANNING (Mr. J.S. REDHU) CC: FINANCIAL COMMISSIONER (Mr. S.S. DHILLON) Letter is required to be given to the Director General like follows: As per the rules only an M.Tech & higher degree in Structures is required of the person responsible for designing a highrise building. Master of Science Degrees in Civil Engg of USA & UK (when accompanied by transcripts that show all structures courses taken) are equivalent to M. Tech Structures of Indian universities. Likewise PhD Degree of Imperial College London states specialisation in Concrete Technology whereas when accompanied by proof of structures coursework taken is equivalent to PhD in structures of Indian Universities. It may be noted that every country in the world has its own nomenclature & that prudence must be used and the transcripts of the Structural Engineer may be examined to verify nature of degree. Summarily throwing out competent Structural Engineers is a disgrace to the nation. The rule must be ammended to recognise this, otherwise a significant number of working professional & Professors of IIT's & other imminent institutions will be rendered disqualified to practise.
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Dear Vinay, Yes it is probably being done by a clerk, but not by mistake. It is very deliberate. Suddenly many of our projects have that objection.
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mehtavin wrote: Dear Vipul, I think this is a clerical mistake. The clerk who checks the degree certificates is definitely illiterate, but this is no surprise. However, you can go and meet the C hief Engineer or the C hief Architect and they should be able to resolve the issue, because ultimately they have to use the services of competent people. Regards, Vinay Mehta From: ahujavipul [mailto:forum@sefindia.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:56 AM To: general@sefindia.org Subject: [SEFI] No recognition of USA & UK MS/PHD Degrees--HUDA (Haryana)
I was horrified to find that HUDA office at C handigarh has discontinued recognising MS from US as a valid structural engg certification for signing off structural stabilty certificate & building structural drawings as rquired by them. The rule is the engineer must have an "M.Tech Structures". I'm not aware of any college in the US that grants a degree with these words. Even a PhD from Imperial C ollege Lndon in not good enough because it says PhD "C oncrete Technology". Supplimentary info such as transcripts to prove that all courses were structural is not cutting any ice. Suddenly we are illiterate. Their primary objection is the word "Structures" no shown anywhere on the degrees. Suddenly even emminent professors who taught us are also illiterate. I am wondering whether others are facing this problem & if so something can be done to straighten things out. Regards, Vipul Ahuja Posted via Email Back to top ahujavipul
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If these were not recognised how could students from India do their MS/PhD without redoing their Bachelors degrees in US/UK. Regards,
Vipul Ahuja
naresh7918 wrote: This is such a naive excuse by HUDA. I dont understand what they have running in their minds. However, Is M.Tech in Structural Engineering from any of the Indian universities recognised in US or UK, or even in European countries? On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM, ahujavipul <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote: Quote:
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I was horrified to find that HUDA office at C handigarh has discontinued recognising MS from US as a valid structural engg certification for signing off structural stabilty certificate & building structural drawings as rquired by them. The rule is the engineer must have an "M.Tech Structures". I'm not aware of any college in the US that grants a degree with these words. Even a PhD from Imperial C ollege Lndon in not good enough because it says PhD "C oncrete Technology". Supplimentary info such as transcripts to prove that all courses were structural is not cutting any ice. Suddenly we are illiterate. Their primary objection is the word "Structures" no shown anywhere on the degrees. Suddenly even emminent professors who taught us are also illiterate. I am wondering whether others are facing this problem & if so something can be done to straighten things out. Regards, Vipul Ahuja
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SEFI should very strongly protest this absurdity of HUDA. They are illiterate about educational degrees. IIT-Roorkee's earlier avatar (UOR) offered ME in Structural Engg Will HUDA not recognise M.Tech or ME in earthquake engineering
This appears to be a babu's blunder Do not write to outside organisations till HUDA or even the chief secy of Haryana responds It could be a storm in the tea-cup
ARC On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM, alpa_sheth <forum@sefindia.org (forum@sefindia.org)> wrote:
Quote: This is completely unacceptable, Vipul. You think SEFI should write an official note to HUDA? As also IASE, AC C E, ISSE, IE(I) etc. regards,
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