Kelly, 29, gives Marc David, Founder of the Institute for the Psychology of Eating, an idea of her challenges with weight. She is connecting her weight gain to some other unwanted symptoms like brain fog, acne, and fatigue. Diets feel too restrictive, and Kelly admits they have only taken her to a place of obsessive control over what she eats and over-exercising, or letting it all go and binging. Marc sheds some light on the situation, and invites her to view her situation as a life phase; a time in between being a caterpillar and a butterfly. Throughout her journey, she has tried different things, like Health at Every Size, and the Paleo Diet. But each thing has components that work for her, and components that don't. Kelly walks away with new insights on navigating her emotional self outside of emotional eating, and learns a new, more empowering definition of 'restrictive'.