LON/KNX Gateway

vs.
KNX OPC Server
2011 October
LON/KNX Gateway
1. Typical use case
where devices in both sides needs to talk which each other and the
response should be fast => LON device KNX device (e.g.
switch/dim commands)
one gateway per zone (e.g. floor)

2. Features
fast communication in both directions
robust solution, because of embedded processing
limited number of data points 200 (650) .. 4000 (2,400)
and 8000 group addresses
bottleneck: KNX on twisted pair (TP) side
single source (http://www.intesis.com/eng/entrada_frame_eng.htm)

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LON/KNX Gateway Device Talk (1)
KNX push button and LON controlled ON/OFF lamp

HVAC HVAC HVAC

Controller 1 Controller 2 Controller 3
LON (TP)

Information needs to be sent between devices. Fast

response is needed.

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX line KNX/LON
coupler KNX (TP) line 1 Gateway

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX line KNX/LON
coupler KNX (TP) line 2 Gateway

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LON/KNX Gateway Device Talk (2)
LON push button and KNX controlled lamps

HVAC HVAC HVAC

Controller 1 Controller 2 Controller 3
LON (TP)

Information needs to be sent between devices. Fast

response is needed.

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX line KNX/LON
coupler KNX (TP) line 1 Gateway

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX line KNX/LON
coupler KNX (TP) line 2 Gateway

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KNX OPC Server
1. Typical use case
where big amount of non time critical information needs to be
send to a central SCADA for monitoring and historical trend purposes
(e.g. temperature value and occupancy status for each room)
where central commands needs to be send from SCADA to the
devices
Normally one OPC Server per building,
the basic control system should work without the BMS/ SCADA

2. Features
fast communication on KNX side by using Ethernet/IP
unlimited number of KNX communication objects (support up to 32
KNX IP-Router)
delay in the BMS/SCADA
single source (http://www.netxautomation.com)

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KNX OPC Server BMS Talk (1)
SCADA reads temperature value and occupancy status from each offices

BMS
SCADA
HVAC HVAC HVAC
Controller 1 Controller 2 Controller 3
OPC LON (TP)

Information needs to be read

from SCADA. Delay is allowed.

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX IP
coupler KNX (TP) line 1

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX IP
coupler KNX (TP) line 2
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KNX OPC Server BMS Talk (2)
SCADA sends central commands to lamps and temperature setpoints

BMS
SCADA
HVAC HVAC HVAC
Controller 1 Controller 2 Controller 3
OPC LON (TP)

Information needs to be written

from SCADA. Delay is allowed.

SetPoint SetPoint SetPoint

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX IP
coupler KNX (TP) line 1

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX IP
coupler KNX (TP) line 2
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KNX OPC Server - LON/KNX Gateway
Mixed mode

BMS
SCADA
HVAC HVAC HVAC
Controller 1 Controller 2 Controller 3
OPC LON (TP)

Information needs to be sent between devices fast response needed

Additional information to be written/read from Scada delay allowed.

SetPoint SetPoint SetPoint

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX IP KNX/LON
coupler KNX (TP) line 1 Gateway

Solution Solution Solution

8.2.1.0.0.0 1.0.0.0.0.0 8.6.0.0.0.0
KNX IP KNX/LON
coupler KNX (TP) line 2 Gateway

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