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f a c i li t y a n d i t s r e la t e d t r a i n i n g p r o g r a m m e w e r e
u p g r a d e d t o c a t e r f o r t h e Mk . I I v e r s i o n o f t h e
h e li c o p t e r ; a n d w h e n F li g h t L i e u t e n a n t s T a p p e r a n d
C o o k c o m p le t e d t h e i r u p g r a d e d t r a i n i n g
p r o g r a m m e . (H U 24 ]
T h e Mi n i s t e r o f S t a t e , Mi n i s t r y o f D e f e n e (B a r o n e s s
S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n ) : T h e r e c o n f i g u r a t i o n o f t h e
C h i n o o k s i m u la t o r t o Mk 2 s t a n d a r d w a s c o m p le t e d i n
t h e la s t q u a r t e r o f 1 9 9 3 . T h e i n s t r u c t i n g t r a i n i n g s t a f f
o f t h e O p e r a t i o n a l C o n v e r s i o n F li g h t h a d c o m p le t e d
c o n v e r s i o n t o t h e Mk 2 v e r s i o n i n Au g u s t 1 9 9 3 .
F I t L t
T a p p e r a n d F I t L t C o o k c o m p le t e d t h e i r
c o n v e r s i o n t r a i n i n g p r o g r a m m e s o n 28 F e b r u a r y 1 9 9 4
a n d 1 7 Ma r c h 1 9 9 4 r e s p e c t i v e ly .
E u r o p e a n S e c u r i t y a n d D e f e n c e P o li c y :
I n t e lli g e n c e Ma n a g e m e n t
L o r d S h o r e o f S t e p n e y a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s
G o v e r n m e n t :
Wh a t a r e t h e c o m m i t m e n t s w h i c h t h e U n i t e d
Ki n g d o m h a s e n t e r e d i n t o , u n d e r t h e E u r o p e a n
S e c u r i t y a n d D e f e n c e P o li c y , f o r t h e g a t h e r i n g ,
a n a ly s i s a n d d i s t r i b u t i o n o f i n t e lli g e n c e m a t e r i a l f o r
E u r o p e a n U n i o n p u r p o s e s . [ H : L 4 0 S ]
B a r o n e s s S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : At t h e
E u r o p e a n C o u n c i l a t Ni c e , E U m e m b e r s t a t e s a g r e e d
t h e t e r m s o f r e f e r e n c e o f t h e E U Mi li t a r y S t a f f , w h i c h
w o u ld p e r f o r m " e a r ly w a r n i n g , s i t u a t i o n a s s e s s m e n t
a n d s t r a t e g i c p la n n i n g f o r P e t e r s b e r g t a s k s " .
T o c a r r y o u t t h i s t a s k t h e s t a f f w i ll r e ly o n
a p p r o p r i a t e n a t i o n a l a n d m u lt i n a t i o n a l i n t e lli g e n c e
c a p a b i li t i e s . T h e d e t a i le d a r r a n g e m e n t s f o r h a n d li n g
i n t e lli g e n c e m a t e r i a l w i ll b e s u b j e c t t o s t r i n g e n t
s a f e g u a r d s a n d w i ll t a k e f u ll a c c o u n t o f e x i s t i n g
n a t i o n a l a n d m u lt i n a t i o n a l a g r e e m e n t s .
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a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
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a n y i n v o lv e m e n t
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i n t h e
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a p p e a r s t o h a v e b e e n s h o w n .
- * : -
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Re n d le s h a m F o r e s t o r t h e a r e a s u r r o u n d i n g RAF
Wa lt o n i n D e c e m b e r 1 9 80 o r
Ja n u a r y 1 9 81 ; a n d
w h e t h e r t h e y a r e a w a r e o f a n y t e s t s c a r r i e d o u t i n
e i t h e r o f t h o s e t w o a r e a s a i m e d a t a s s e s s i n g a n y
n u c le a r , b i o lo g i c a l o r c h e m i c a l h a z a r d .
(H U O l]
B a r o n e s s S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : T h e s t a f f a t t h e
D e { e p c e E v a lu a t i o n a n d Re s e a r c h
Ag e n c y (D E RA)
C h m i c a l a n d B i o lo g i c a l D e f e n c e (C B D ) la b o r a t o r i e s
a t P o r t o n D o w n h a v e m a d e a t h o r o u g h s e a r c h o f t h e i r
a r c h i v e s a n d h a v e f o u n d n o r e c o r d o f a n y s u c h v i s i t s .
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L o r d H i ll- No r t o n a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
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t a r g e t s t r a c k e d o n r a d a r i n No v e m b e r o r D e c e m b e r
1 9 80 ; a n d w h e t h e r t h e y w i ll
g i v e
d e t a i ls o f a n y s u c h
i n c i d e n t s .
(H L J0 2]
B a r o n e s s S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : Re c o r d s d a t i n g
f r o m 1 9 80 n o lo n g e r e x i s t . P a p e r r e c o r d s a r e r e t a i n e d
f o r a p e r i o d o f t h r e e y e a r s b e f o r e b e i n g d e s t r o y e d .
Re c o r d i n g s o f r a d a r d a t a a r e r e t a i n e d f o r a p e r i o d o f
t h i r t y d a y s p r i o r t o r e - u s e o f t h e r e c o r d i n g m e d i u m .
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L o r d H i ll- No r t o n a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
Wh a t i s t h e h i g h e s t c la s s i f i c a t i o n t h a t h a s b e e n
a p p li e d t o a n y Mi n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e d o c u m e n t
c o n c e r n i n g U n i d e n t i f i e d F ly i n g O b j e c t s . (H U 0 4 ]
B a r o n e s s
S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : A li m i t e d
s e a r c h
t h r o u g h a v a i la b le f i le s h a s i d e n t i f i e d a n u m b e r
o f d o c u m e n t s
g r a d e d S e c r e t . T h e o v e r a ll c la s s i f i c a t i o n
o f t h e d o c u m e n t s w a s n o t d i c t a t e d
b y d e t a i ls o f s p e c i f i c
s i g h t i n g s o f
" U F O s " .
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L o r d H y lt o n a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
Wh e n t h e y e x p e c t t o i m p le m e n t li c e n s i n g f o r a r m s
b r o k e r i n g a n d t r a f f i c k i n g , w h i c h t h e y a n n o u n c e d a t
la s t y e a r s L a b o u r P a r t y C o n f e r e n c e . (H U 4 3 ]
T h e Mi n i s t e r f o r S c i e n c e , D e p a r t m e n t o f T r a d e a n d
I n d u s t r y (L o r d S a i n s b u r y o f T u r v i lle ) : T h e n e w
li c e n s i n g c o n t r o ls o n a r m s b r o k e r i n g a n d t r a f f i c k i n g
a n n o u n c e d la s t S e p t e m b e r w i ll b e i n t r o d u c e d u n d e r
n e w p o w e r s o n t r a f f i c k i n g a n d b r o k e r i n g t o b e
c o n t a i n e d i n a n E x p o r t C o n t r o l B i ll; T h e Q u e e n s
S p e e c h a n n o u n c e d t h a t t h e G o v e r n m e n t w i ll p u b li s h
t h i s B i U i n d r a f t d u r i n g t h i s s e s s i o n o f P a r li a m e n t . F u ll
d e t a i ls o f t h e n e w c o n t r o ls p r o p o s e d o n a r m s
. .
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S c h e d u l e 2 1 ( M i n o r a n d
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( 7 ) ( b ) & ( c ) , ( 8 )
& ( 9) ; 8 t o I I , 1 2 ( 2 ) &
( 1 3 ) ; a n d
1 3 t o 1 5.
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( 7 ) ( d ) a n d 1 6
t o 1 8
P a r a g r a p h s ; 1 2 ( 2 ) &
( 3 )
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T i m i n g o j Co m m e n c e m e n t
1 6 F e b r u a r y
I Ju l y 2 0 0 1
On Ro y a l As s e n t ( i . e . o n
3 0 No ve m b e r 2 0 0 0 )
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p r o vi s i o n s
T w o w e e k s a f t e r Ro y a l
As s e n t ( L e . o n 1 4 D e c e m b e r
2 0 0 0 )
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Re g i s t r a t i o n o f e x i s t i n g r e g i s t e r e d
p a r t i e s ) .
T h o s e p r o vi s i o n s o f t h e Ac t n o t l i s t e d i n t h e t a b l e
w i l l b e b r o u g h t i n t o f o r c e
b y
m e a n s o f o n e o r m o r e
s u b s e q u e n t c o m m e n c e m e n t o r d e r s a t a d a t e o r d a t e s t o
b e a n n o u n c e d .
Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t JRAF B e n t w a t e r s I n c i d e n t
~ L o r d H i l l - No r t o n a s k e d H e r M a je s t y s G o ve r n m e n t :
Wh e t h e r t h e y w i l l d e t a i l t h e u n d e r g r o u n d
f a c i l i t i e s a t t h e f o n n e r RAF B e n t w a t e r s i n s t a l l a t i o n ;
a n d w h a t i s t h e p u r p o s e o f t h e s e f a c i l i t i e s . [ H L 3 2 0 ]
T h e M i n i s t e r o f S t a t e , M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e ( B a r o n e s s
S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n ) : T h e r e a r e n o u n d e r g r o u n d
f a c i l i t i e s a t t h e f o r m e r RAF B e n t w a t e r s .
~
L o r d H i l l - No r t o n a s k e d H e r M a je s t y s G o ve r n m e n t :
Wh e t h e r t h e y a r e a w a r e o f a n y i n vo l ve m e n t i n t h e
1 98 0 Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t i n c i d e n t b y
e i t h e r M i n i s t r y
o f D e f e n c e P o l i c y o r p e r s o n n e l f r o m t h e S u f f o l k
Co n s t a b u l a r y . [ H L 3 2 !)
B a r o n e s s S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : T h e M i n i s t e r o f
D e f e n c e i s n o t a w a r e o f a n y
i n vo l ve m e n t
b y
t h e
M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e P o l i c e i n t h e a l l e g e d i n c i d e n t . T h e
M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e s k n o w l e d g e o f i n vo l ve m e n t b y
t h e S u f f o l k P o l i c e i s l i m i t e d t o a l e t t e r d a t e d 2 8 Ju l y
1 999 f r o m t h e S u f f o l k Co n s t a b u l a r y t o G e o r g i n a
B r u n i t h a t i s c o n t a i n e d i n t h e r e c e n t b o o k .
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Wh e t h e r t h e y a r e a w a r e o f a n y i n ve s t i g a t i o n o f
t h e 1 98 0 Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t i n c i d e n t c a r r i e d o u t b y
t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s Ai r f o r c e , t h e Ai r F o r c e Of f i c e o f
S p e c i a l I n ve s t i g a t i o n s o r a n y
o t h e r Un i t e d S t a t e s
a g e n c y . [ H L 3 2 2 ]
B a r o n e s s S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : T h e M i n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e s k n o w l e d g e o f a n i n ve s t i g a t i o n b y
t h e US
a u t h o r i t i e s i n t o t h e a l 1 e g e d i n c i d e n t i n Re n d l e s h a m
F o r e s t i n 1 98 0 i s l i m i t e d t o t h e i n f o n n a t i o n c o n t a i n e d
i n t h e m e m o r a n d u m s e n t
b y
L t Co l H a l t US AF ,
D e p u t y B a s e Co m m a n d e r a t RAF Wo o d b r i d g e , t o
t h e RAF L i a i s o n Of f i c e r a t RAF B e n t w a t e r s o n
1 3 Ja n u a r y 1 98 1 .
2 5 L W0 0 2 i . P AG I 4
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Wh e t h e r , i n t h e l i g h t o f t h e n e w i n f r m a t i o n
c o n t a i n e d i n G e o r g i n a B r u n i s b o o k Yo u Ca n t
T e l l
t h e P e o p l e , t h e y w i l l n o w l a u n c h a n i n ve s t i g a t i o n
i n t o t h e Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t i n c i d e n t a n d t h e
r e s p o n s e t o t h i s i n c i d e n t
b y t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s Ai r
F o r c e a n d t h e M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e .
[ H U52 ]
B a r o n e s s S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : No a d d i t i o n a l
i n f o n n a t i o n h a s c o m e t o l i g h t o ve r t h e l a s t 2 0 y e a r s t o
c a n i n t o q u e s t i o n t h e o r i g i n a l ju d g m e n t b y t h e
M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e t h a t n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e
s i g n i f i c a n c e o c c u r r e d i n t h e l o c a t i o n o f Re n d l e s h a m
F o r e s t i n 1 98 0 . Ac c o r d i n g l y t h e r e i s n o r e a s o n t o h o l d
a n i n ve s t i g a t i o n n o w .
1 <
L o r d H i l l - No r t o n a s k e d H e r M a je s t y s G o ve r n m e n t : ~
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r e c e i ve d
a n y a p p r o a c h f r o m , a n y Un i t e d S t a t e s
g o ve r n m e n t o r m i l i t a r y a g e n c y c o n c e r n i n g
G e o r g i n a B r u n i s b o o k Yo u Ca n t
T e l l t h e P e o p l e ;
a n d , i f s o , w h e t h e r t h e y w i l l g i ve d e t a i l s o f a n y s u c h
a p p r o a c h .
[ H U53 ]
B a r o n e s s
S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : As a m a t t e r o f
c o u r t e s y , t h e M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e i n f o n n e d
H e a d q u a r t e r s 3 r d Ai r F o r c e a t RAF M i l d e n h a l l a b o u t
t h e b o o k . T h e US a u t h o r i t i e s h a ve n o t s u b s e q u e n t l y
a p p r o a c h e d t h e M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e o n t h e i s s u e .
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a g r e e w i t h t h e a n a l y s i s o f t h e
b a s i c f a c t s o f t h e Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t / RAF
B e n t w a t e r s i n c i d e n t i n t h e f o u r t h p a r a g r a p h o f L o r d
H i l 1 ~ No r t r i s l e t f e r t OT o i d G i l b e i f o f 2 2 Oc t o b e r
1 997 , r e p o r t e d o n
p a g e
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b o o k Yo u Ca n t
T e l l t h e P e o p l e ; o r , i f n o t , i n w h a t
r e s p e c t t h e y d i s a g r e e .
[ H U54]
B a r o n e s s S y m o n s o f V e r n h a m D e a n : T h e M i n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e s
p o s i t i o n r e g a r d i n g t h i s a l l e g e d s i g h t i n g
r e m a i n s a s i t d i d a t t h e t i m e o f L o r d G i l b e r t s
r e p l y t o
t h e n o b l e L o r d s
l e t t e r o f 2 2 n d Oc t o b e r 1 997 . F r o m
s u r vi vi n g d e p a r t m e n t a l r e c o r d s , w e r e m a i n s a t i s f i e d
t h a t n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e s i g n i f i c a n c e o c c u r r e d o n t h e
n i g h t s i n q u e s t i o n .
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L o r d
As h I e y o f S t o k e a s k e d H e r M a je s t y s
G o ve r n m e n t :
Wh e t h e r t h e y w i l l m a k e a va i l a b l e t o B r i t i s h
n u c l e a r t e s t ve t e r a n s t h e s a m e s c r e e n i n g f a c i l i t i e s
t h a t a r e b e i n g p r o vi d e d f o r o t h e r e x - s e r vi c e m e n .
[ H L 3 7 4]
B a r o n e s s
S y m o n s o f V e r n b a m D e a n : Wo r k c o -
o r d i n a t e d
b y t h e Na t i o n a l Ra d i o l o g i c a l P r o t e c t i o n
B o a r d
( NRP B ) , t o g e t h e r w i t h o t h e r p u b l i s h e d s t u d i e s ,
i n d i c a t e s t h a t e ve n t h e m o s t p o w e r f u l r a d i o b i o l o g i c a l
t e c h n i q u e s f o r e s t i m a t i n g h i s t o r i c r a d i a t i o n e x p o s u r e
i n i n d i vi d u a l s a r e o f d o u b t f u l u s e i n t h e c a s e o f n u c l e a r
t e s t ve t e r a n s .
i ; ;
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b y
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L o r d H i l l - No r t o n o n t h e s u b j e c t o f Un i d e n t i f i e d F l y i n g Ob j e c t s . Th r e e a r e f o r a n s w e r
o n F r i d a y 26 J a n u a r y , t h e r e m a i n i n g t h r e e a r e f o r a n s w e r o n Tu e s d a y 30 J a n u a r y .
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Ch r i s t m a s 1 980 . A b o o k ,
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- - . s . S. : : - . - s . : - s : : - R- d. - s - m E: - s R~i - . - - s . . d- . - : : .
- - | - : :
- L: d H. . . :: : s . - - : - L: d C. . . - : : . . d : . - L - : - d :
- | -
| . : :
C- : | . -
. . s . : : : .
- 1- . . - i- : . - . : . : . . . - - s - | - d. s - | - - {HL | )
. . . 1 . .
-
2
-
~ Lthet of these
simply must be
"(>f
interest to thE : - : Vlinistrv
of Defence",
which has been repeatedly denied, in
precisel~
those t~ rms.
They, or words very like
them, are used
ag ai~
in vour letter and I believe, in the
lig ht of the above, vou
\ ,ouI e! not L: : ; el inclined to si n
your narne t. o them aqain.
-
I could qive YOU a qreat: deal more evidencF ,~ in similar
vein,
not
onlY
abo t this incident, but about many others, but on
t his 0 c a s ion I wi 1 1 spa r e ,,. 0 L . I oug ht,.
how eve r , in a 1 1
[ainiess let VOl! knO\ v that the rOlltine denials by the N inist- . t= v
-
tlsually thi ubiquitous N s Phillips
-
will veiy soon becom~
extremely dam,: : i. J ng to its s; eneral cred. ibility in this field.
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Copy of Memorandum
by Lt.
Col.
Halt USAF
Sent to the
Ministry of
Defence
on 13. 1. 81"
Subject:
To:
Unexplained
Lights
RilF/CC
. I . . Eddy in the
morning of 27 Dee 00
( appro:- < imat ~ ly
03001. ) ,
t, , ( ) lS, ;F
security
police patrolmen sa . v
unusual
lights out. side
the back
gate at RAE
v , ) ( ) dbridge.
Thinking
an aircraft.
might
hav e crashed or been forced down, thF~ Y ca! led for
permission
to go outslde the
gate to
inv estigat~ .
The
on- duty
flight
chief
responded and allowed three
patrolmen
to
proceed on
foot. The indiv iduals
reported
seeing a
strange
glowing
t) bject in the forest.
The object: \ Vas
described
as
being
metallic in
appE> arancl- . and
triangular
in
shape,
approximately
t" , ( ) to three meters
across the base
and
approximately tt~ o
me ten,
high. I t
iLluminated the entire
forest , t h a white
li9ht. The object itself had a
pulsing red
light. on
top and
a bankCs) of blue
lights underneath.
The
object ~ as
hov ering
0:
on legs. . q ~ the
pa troJ men
approached
the
obj, ect, it
maneuv ered
thr( ) u~ . Jh the trees and
disappeared.
, st th is t 1m, , -
tr) ;7: , - jnimals
on a neat by
farm h ent
into a
frenzy. The
object
was briefly sighted
approximately an hour
later near the back
:late.
2. Tlie next
day, th?, ee
depressions i. ) "
deep and
7"
1n
diameter ~ ere found where the object had been
sighted on the
ground. The following
night ( 29 Dee 80) the area was checked
fur rac ation. BeLJ/Gamn. a
readings of 0. 1
milliroentgens
were
recorded with P i:: dk reddings in the three
depressions and near
I . :. h" , t:enter of th" . :
trianr, ::, rle formed
by the
depl essions.
:4
nearby tree had modera te ( . 05 - . 07)
readings at the side of
tbe tree tOh ard
the
depressions.
3. Later 1n t. he night a red sun- like
light was seen
through
the trC:" es. I t mov ed about and
pulsed.
At one
point it
appeared to thl OW
off
glowing particles
and then broke into
[i v c= > sepa rate \ - - rli te ob ject s and then
disappeared.
I rnmed iate 1
y
lhen: after, Lhc. . . . ::e star- like
objects were
noticed in the
sky,
bv o
objec ts to the north and one to th( ~
sout. h, a 11 of wh ich
\ Vere about
lOCI
off the horizon. The
objects
mov ed
rapidly in
sharp an jular mov ements
and
displayed
red,
green and bl. u< ~
lights. The objects Lo the north
appeared to be
elliptical
t hrou9 an 8
- 1
~ pOh er lens.
They then
turned to full c i rc les.
The
objects to the north
remained in the
sky for an hour or
CHore. The object to the south was
v isible
for b. ;o or three
hours and beamed down a stream of ] ight from
time to time.
~ umerous . i. ndi v i ua J. s, ine 1 uding the unders
igned, wi tnF. :ssed the
activ ities in pal agraphs 2 and 3.
1 <
APPENDIX III
Admiral of the Fleet The Lord Hill-Norton GCB
The Lord Gilbert
Minister of State
Ministrv of Defence
Whitehail
Lonc:on StH. \ 2HB
. < ) , )
Octobet~, 1 997
Thank vou for your letter of 1 6 October (it took f~ve days to
get herel I abo t
my Question and Colonel Halt s Memo. It was
good of you to take the trouble to reply.
I do not want to go on and on. but because you are new to this
pdrticular matter I would like to put you more fully in the
picture. Your officials. and those (perhaps the same
IndIviduals) of the previous AdmInistration, have sought to
pretend that Col. Halt s
report was only about "unexplained
lights in the sky", but as I said in my letter of 22 September
it WdS dbout cl gO(yJ d. , ; d l more Uk\ thdL.
31 ) t. ftdt L. hi . :t-j "= i~. ; , ; nt) p() 5 ~l. bility uf furLhf~r misund~rst. :indin[ . J
I attach a
copy
of the Memo in fulL and I beg you to read It
yourself. From thIs you \ 1 1 1 see that he reported that d. n
unidentIfied obj ect breached UK Air Space and landed in close
pL-oximlty to the CS RAF Air Base. He gives considerable
detail about whdt happened at the time, and subsequently;
together with physical ~vldence of an intrusion.
My positiQn both pnvately and publicly expressed
L) st doz , = n \ . "ars GJ:" more, is that there are
possib~lities. either:
over
on I~
Lhe
two
:1 * i\ n i. nLrusl. () (1
unldentlfled
des ; r 1 bed.
into
C I-aft
ou r , :) , l r Spdl. :e
took place
a. ld . 3 landing
d t Rendlesham,
by
as
or
b. Tht . : Deputy ComflkHJt :, r of dft operationdl, nU :lear armed,
CS All Force Base in England, and a large number of his
enlisted men. ~ere either hallucinating or lying.
Continued:
Letter to Lord Gilbert
from
Lord Hill-Norton
. . .
LORDS WRITTEN PARLIAMENTARY
OUESTION
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DATE FOR RETURN
REFERENCE
P< " >
TYPE
MINISTER REPLYING
1 2 : 0 0 ON 2 2
J a n u a r y 2 0 0 1
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LORDS WRITTEN
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COpy ADDRESSEE(S)
De f e n c e Es t a t e s
CS HQ St r i k e Cmd
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The a n s w e r a n d
b a c k g r o u n d n o t e mu s t b e a u t ho r i s e d
b y a c i v i l s e r v a n t a t Se n i o r Ci v i l
Se r v i c e l e v e l o r a mi l i t a r y o f f i c e r a t o n e - s t a r l e v e l o r a b o v e w ho i s
r e s po n s i b l e f o r e n s u r i n g
t ha t t he i n f o r ma t i o n a n d a dv i c e pr o v i de d i s a c c u r a t e a n d r e f l e c t s
De pa r t me n t a l In s t r u c t i o n s
PQs
DCI GEN 1 5 0 /9 7 .
Tho s e c o n t r i b u t i n g i n f o r ma t i o n f o r
PQ a n s w e r s a n d
b a c k g r o u n d n o t e s a r e r e s po n s i b l e f o r
e n s u r i n g t he i n f o r ma t i o n i s a c c u r a t e .
b y
t ho s e dr a f t i n g
PQ a n s w e r s a n d b a c k g r o u n d
ma t e r i a l , t ho s e c o n t r i b u t i n g i n f o r ma t i o n a n d t ho s e
r e s po n s i b l e f o r
a u t ho r i s i n g t he a n s w e r
a n d b a c k g r o u n d n o t e a s a n a i d t o e n s u r i n g t ha t
de pa r t me n t a l
po l i c y i s a dhe r e d t o .
If
y o u o r o t he r s c o n c e r n e d a r e u n c e r t a i n a b o u t ho w
PQs a r e a n s w e r e d s e e k a dv i c e f r o m a
Pe e r s
DETAIL: Admi r a l o f The Fl e e t The Lo r d Hi l l - No r t o n
GCB
QUESTION
To a s k He r Ma j e s t y s Go v e r n me n t To a s k He r Ma j e s t y s Go v e r n me n t w he t he r
t he y n o w a g r e e w i t h t he
a n a l y s i s o f t he b a s i c f a c t s o f t he Re n dl e s ha m Fo r e s t /RAF Be n t w a t e r s
i n c i de n t i n t he f o u r t h
pa r a g r a ph o f
t he Lo r d Hi l l - No r t o n s
l e t t e r t o t he Lo r d Gi l b e r t o f 2 2 n d Oc t o b e r 1 9 9 7 , r e po r t e d o n
pa g e
42 9 o f
Ge o r g i n a Br u n i s b o o k Yo u Ca n t
Te l l t he Pe o pl e ; o r , i f n o t , i n w ha t
r e s pe c t t he y di s a g r e e . (HL3 5 4)
, . . . . . . - - . - . - , - " - - - - ~ ~ . . . - . . -
APPENDIX III
429
Admiral of the Fleet
The Lord Hill-Norton
GCB
The Lord Gilbert
Menister of State
Ministrv of OefencR
Wbitebail
London S~ A 2HB
, ~
October,
1997
Thank you for Vour
letter of 16 October (it took five
days to get here!) abo t
my Question
and Colonel Halts
Memo.
It was good of you to take the trouble
to
reply.
I do not want to
go on and on, but because
you are new to tbis pctrticul r matter I would like to
put you more
fully in the pi ture. Your
officials,
and those
(perhaps the
same iflCilVtdu.:t[s) f th.~
preViUUS
i\ dmir\ J .stratJ on,
have
s)ught
to pretend that Col. Halts
report was
only about
"unexplained
lights in the sky.,
but as I said in
my letter of 22
September it was db ut d gOf.J d deal more than thdL.
S, ) that l, n., ; n"
L3 (I, )
pos> ~ billty o[ furth~ ~ r
misunderstdndin]
! atta h a
copy of the Memo in full, and I beg you to read it yourself. From this yOU
.VIII see that he reported
that dn
unidentified
object breached UK Air Space and landed in close
pco:(imity to the CS/RAF
Air Base.
He gives
considerable
detail about whdt
happened at t.he
time, and
sUbsequently;
together with
physical ~ vidence
of an intrusion.
My position both
prlvately and
publicly expressed
LIst dozen , -ears or- more, is tha~ : there are
possibilities,
either:
over
only
.. i\ n intrusion
iHILdent If led
de; .; r; r 1 bed.
a
landing
Rendleshdm,
into
ct-aft
our , 4.t.t-
took
Sp.3 CI-
p, l.~ ce
dnd
dt
or
b. Thl1
Deputy Comm", ndp.r of an opera tionell, nuclear
armed,
CS Au
Force Base In
England, and a larqe number
of his
enlisted men, ~ ere either
hallucinating or
lying.
Con t i ni1(~ d ;
Letter to Lord Gilbert
ftom Lord
Hill-Norton
the
two
by
as
.
D I V I S I ON I D I R E C T OR A T E / BR A N C H:
M OD F orm 174D
( l 1~ v i s e d 5 / 9 9 )
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2 0 0
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2 . Wh e n a T E J i s i n c orp ora t e d i n t o t h e p a re n t f i l e i t s h ou l d b e p l a c e d i n t h e f i l e i n d a t e ord e r ( a c c ord i n g
3 . T h e f i l e mi n u t e s h e e t s h ou l d b e a n n ot a t e d t o re c ord t h e e n c l os u re n u mb e r of t h e T E J a l on g w i t h
d e t a i l s of t h e n u mb e r of e n c l os u re s c on t a i n e d w i t h i n i t . T h e T E J re c ord s h e e t ( M OD F orm 2 62 A )
441
, p a ra g ra p h 4. 13 re f e rs ) .
. . " . .
Mi n i s t r y o f De f e n c e
? -
FRIDAY 26 JANUARY 20 0 1
GCB(X) (CB)
LORDS WRITTEN
To as k H e r Maj e s t y s Go v e r n me n t w he t he r t he y w i ll de t ai l t he lli lde r g r o u n d
f ac i li t i e s at t he f o r me r RAP Be n t w at e r s i n s t allat i o n ; an d w hat i s t he
p u r p o s e
o f
t he s e f ac i li t i e s . (H L3 20 )
Mi n i s t e r
r e p ly i n g Bar o n e s s Sy mo n s
The r e ar e n o u n de r ! : , JTo u n d f ac i li t i e s at t he f o n n e r RAF Be n t w at e r s .
Jan u ar y 0 1
PQ
Re f 0 3 5 9 L
a
YOU
CANT TELL
THE
PEOPLE
who k i n d l y
e s c or t e d
us t o t he p l us h
v i s i t or s r oom
a n d
of f e r e d
us
p i p i n g - hot
c of f e e ,
whi c h we n t
d own v e r y
we l l on s uc h a
c ol d
wi n t e r s d a y .
Dr a n e
wa s e q ua l l y
a c c ommod a t i n g ,
a n d
whe n
I
c he e k i l y
a s k e d
f or a c op y
of t he hug e
B e n t wa t e r s ma p
t ha t g r a c e d
hi s
of f i c e
wa l l ,
he wi l l i n g l y
ob l i g e d .
I n a l l t he
e x c i t e me n t ,
I ha d
f or -
g ot t e n
i t wa ~ . . . m~ y
a n d I c c > ul d n ot ha v e
wi s he d
f or a b e t t e r
g i f t
t ha n a US AE_ _ ~ ~ ~
of t he e r t t i r e
B e n t wa t e r s < : omp l e x ,
whi c h
l i s t e d
a n d
n umb e r e d e v e r y
b ui l d i n g
a b ov e g r oun d .
V e r n on
Dr a n e
ha d
a s s i g n e d
on e of hi s mor e
ma t ur e s e c ur i t y
g ua r d s
t Q
a c c omp a n y
us on t he t our .
De r e k
B a r n e s
wa s d ue f or
r e t i r e me n t
s oon ,
s o we we r e l uc k y
t o ha v e hi s
e x p e r t i s e .
He wa s a
l oc a l
who ha d
b e e n
wi t h
B e n t wa t e r s
s e c ur i t y
s i n c e t he
Ame r i c a n s
ha d
d e p a r t e d ,
b e f or e
t ha t
he us e d t o
s e r v i c e
t he i r
d ome s t i c
a p p l i a n c e s .
Our f i r s t s t op
wa s t he
a i r - t r a f f i c
c on t r ol
t owe r
a n d
a l t houg h
n ot
t ha t hi g h,
i t
w~ s
Qn e he l l of a c l i mb on a we t a n d wi n d y
d a y .
The
v i e w f r om
t he t ow~ )
wa s q ui t e
a ma z i n g ,
on e c oul d s e e r i g ht
a c r os s
t he b a s e ,
ov e r
t owa r d s
t he f or e s t . The f i t t i n g s ,
whi c h
ha d on c e
he l d
t he
c on t r ol s ,
we r e s t i l l mos t l y
i n t a c t ,
a n d I c oul d i ma g i n e
b e i n g
s e a t e d
t he r e ,
wa t c hi n g
t he
A- 1 0 s c omi n g
i n t o l a n d .
Howe v e r ,
t hi s
wa s
n ot t he
t owe r I wa s l ook i n g
f or , t ha t wa s i n t he we a p on s
s t or a g e
a r e a . I t wa s f r om
t ha t
p a r t i c ul a r
s t a n d p oi n t
t ha t a n
a i r ma n
wa s
i n s t r uc t e d
t o k e e p
a n e y e
on l ow- f l y i n g
UFOs . J us t
a s I wa s t a k i n g
p hot og r a p hs
of t he
p a n or a mi c
v i e w,
a n a g g r e s s i v e
y oun g
s e c ur i t y
g ua r d
c a me b a r g i n g
i n . He t houg ht
we we r e
i n t r ud e r s
a n d ha d
c ha r g e d
i n wi t h
t he \ a i m of
c on f r on t i n g
us . I wa s n ow b e g i n n i n g
t o
f e e l g ui l t y
a t d r a g g i n g
ol d
B a r n e s up
t hos e s l i p p e r y
me t a l s t e p s
t o t he
t owe r ,
i f t he c l i mb up
wa s
d i f f i c ul t i n t he
g a l e - f or c e
wi n d a n d he a v y
r a i n ,
t he c l i mb
d own
wa s e q ua l l y s o~ . .
Our
n e x t s t op
wa s t he b a s e
he a d q ua r t e r s ,
whe r e
t he wi n g
c omma n d e r
woul d ha v e
r ul e d
wi t h hi s c omm n d i n g
of f i c e r s . I t wa s
a l a r g e
c omp l e x ,
s ur r oun d e d b y
ov e r g r own
g a r d e n s ,
a n d a t t he
e n t r a n c e
wa s a c a n op y
t ha t ha d ob v i ous l y
p r ot e c t e d
t he
of f i c e r s
f r om
t he
e l e me n t s
a s t he y
s t e p p e d
i n t o t he i r
v e hi c l e s .
I n ot i c e d
mos t of t he
r ooms
we r e c a r p e t e d ,
a n d a s we c l i mb e d
t he
s t a i r c a s e
t o t he hi g he r
e c he l on s
of f i c e s t he y
b e c a me
muc h g r a n d e r .
We
e n t e r e d a r e c e p t i on
~
INTROOUCTION
9
t
a r e a t h r o u g h
t wO h u g e
g l a s s
d o o r s : o ne
e t c h e d
wi t h t h e e mbl e m o f
t h e USAF a nd t h e
o t h e r
wi t h t h a t o f t h e
Sl s t Ta c t i c a l
Fi g h t e r W i ng ,
t h e l a s t s q u a d r o n
t o o c c u p y
t h e ba s e .
Th e
d o o r s l e d t o a s p a c i o u s
r e c e p t i o n
a r e a ,
a nd o f f t o t h e r i g h t
wa s t h e g r a nd < : ~ l . . o f f i . c e . . 9 _ f i l l ,
t h e
wi ng
c o mma nd e r s .
As
V f l ~ ~
s o me o f t h e
o t h e r
~ - f l o o r
o f f i C? ! >
i t s
wa l l s
we r e a ma s s o f
wa l l : t o - c e i l i ng
s t o r a g e . . c u p bo a r a s : - c o
e d by
s l i d i ng
d o o r s
wi t h
no
h a nd l e s . J a c q u i e l i ne
a nd I h a d f u n t r y i ng
t o
f i g u r e
o u t h o w t o o p e n
t h e m. Th i s p a r t i c u l a r
o f f i c e
h a d i t s o wn
p r i v a t e
t o i l e t ,
e n- s u i t e
s h o we r a nd s ma l l
bu i l t - i n
wa r d r o be :
Ai r
Fo r c e
l u x u r y
a t i t s be s t ,
I t h o u g h t .
I c o u l d no t
r e s i s t a no s e
a r o u nd
a nd
f o u nd my s e l f
l o o k i ng
o n t o a n
e no r mo u s
ba l c o ny
t h a t
B a r ne s
s a i d
h a d be e n u s e d
f o r
c o c k t a i l p a r t i e s
d u r i ng
t h e
s u mme nno nt h s .
Th i s
i s
wh e r e . t h e
wi ng c o mma nd e r < wo u l d
. h a v e e nt e
ne d t h e
l o c a l
Ang l o l
Ame r i c a n
So c i a l
Co ma l t t e e ,
c o mmo nl y .
k no wn
a s
t h e
M u t u a l
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dec o n t am i n at i o n
p r o c edu r es
b ef o r e t h ey
en t er ed
t h e m ai n c o m p l ex .
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t h e c o r r i do r
wer e s t r an ge-
l o o k i n g
dev i c es t h at we r eal i z ed wer e o x y gen
v en t s . On e r o o m
c o n s i s t ed
o f en o r m o u s p i p es
wh i c h l ed t h r o u gh
t h e wal l s t o wh er e
we di d n o t k n o w, b u t as s u m ed t h es e wo u l d h av e p r o v i ded
t h e
o x y gen .
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r i gh t
was a s m al l r o o m f u l l o f r o w u p o n
r o w o f
dec ay i n g
t el ep h o n e
s wi t c h b o ar ds .
Ob v i o u s l y ,
t h i s h ad b een t h ei r
c o m m u n i c at i o n s
o u t f i t ,
an d I c o n s i der ed
wh et h er i t wo u l d h av e
f u n c t i o n ed
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at t ac k . As we
c o n -
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t h e c o m p l ex
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o t h er
em p t y
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as i f we wer e i n s i de s o m e k i n d o f c ap s u l e. I t was di f f i c u l t i n t h e
b l ac k n es s
wi t h o n l y
t o r c h es f o r l i gh t
an d I al m o s t f el l do wn s o m e
s t ep s
as I t r i ed t o gai n m y
b ear i n gs .
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was a r o o m t h at f eat u r ed t wo r o ws o f f i t t i n gs j o i n ed
en d t o en d;
t h es e h ad,
n o do u b t ,
h o u s ed c o m p u t er s .
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k n o c k ed
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em p t y
c an o f c o k e an d t h e n o i s e s u dden l y b r o u gh t
. !
m e b ac k t o r eal i t y .
Th i s was s o m e p l ac e! Ex i t i n g t h r o u gh
t h e o t h er
s i de o f t h e r o o m , we c am e ac r o s s an o t h er h u ge
do o r an d i t o c c u r r ed
t o u s t h at we h ad p as s ed
t h r o u gh
s ev er al o f t h es e o n t h e way
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wi t h t h e
Wo o db r i dge p o s t ,
we h o p ed
t h at n o n e o f t h es e wo u l d c l o s e
b eh i n d u s . I s l i d b ac k a do o r t h at s eem ed t o t ak e
u p
t h e wh o l e o f o n e
wal l , o n l y
t o di s c o v er t h er e was a s l i di n g p an el
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o f s o m e
t y p e
o f s t eel . Wh en I s l i d b ac k t h e p an el
i t r ev eal ed
an o t h er
o f t h e s am e,
an d an o t h er , an d an o t h er , an d s o o n . Mt er s l i di n g
al l
t h e p an el s
b ac k a s o l i d s t eel wal l was r ev eal ed. Mo v i n g
b ac k i n t o t h e
r o o m I h ad p r ev i o u s l y
ex i t ed, I f o u n d t h at t ~ ~ p an el s
an d s eal ed wal l
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l i t t l ec h ar c
; ; ; e
c i v i l i an s
wo u l d h av e s t o o d h ad t h er e b een a n u c l ear at t ac k .
Th e
go v er n m en t
i n f o r m at i o n
b o o k l et , Pr o t ec t an d S u r v i v e,
wh i c h adv i s ed
i t s
c i t i z en s o n h o w t o p r o t ec t
t h em s el v es f r o m s u c h an at t ac k ,
s eem ed
p r ep o s t er o u s
i n c o m p ar i s o n .
S u dden l y
we f o u n d
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INTRODUCTION
1 1
a s m a l l room . At th e e n d of th e room wa s a n u n u s u a l s ol i d re d d oor
th a t l ook e d
v e ry i m p orta n t i n d e e d . It h a d a s m a l l g l a s s p a n e b u t wa s
c ov e re d i n wa rn i n g s i g n s s u c h a s :
No
p h otog ra p h s b e y on d th i s
p oi n t. Th i s i s a re s tri c te d a re a ,
a n d W a rn i n g . Con trol l e d Are a . It i s
u n l a wf u l to e n te r th i s . a re a wi th ou t
p e rm i s s i on of th e In s ta l l a ti on
Com m a n d e r. Ne xt to ~ l e d oor wa s s
m e s ort of ol d s e c u ri ty s y s te m ;
u n f ortu n a te l y th e d oor wa s we l l a n d tru l y l oc k e d a n d B a rn e s
e X p l a i n e d th a t th e re we re n o k e y s f or i t. I s u rm i s e d th i s m u s t h a v e
b e e n on e of th e s e n s i ti v e a re a s th a t V e rn on Dra n e h a d tol d m e s ti l l
e xi s te d ,
a p p a re n tl y th e re we re s ti l l a f e w of th e s e on th e i n s ta l l a ti on .
Th e d oor wa s a t th e
v e ry e n j .9 L th e
h l l i 1 d ; " g , wh i c h
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a re a re e - f e e t
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d i re c tl y i n f ron t of th e d oor wh i c h wa s b l oc k e d of f
b y
a wa l l , a n d th e
e xi t wh i c h I c ou l d n ot s e e c l e a rl y wa s of f to th e l e f t. H owe v e r, th e re ^
we re n o e xi ts on th a t s i d e of th e wa l l b e c a u s e I c h e c k e d wh e n I l e f t
th e b u i l d i n g . B e s i d e s , i t c ou l d n ot h a v e b e e n a n e xi t
b e 9 J 1 s ~ .d ~ ~
s i g n s c l e a rl y i n d i c a te d i t wa s a n e n tra n c e
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i n
m y m e m ory f ore v e r, we tu rn e d b a c k , l ook i n g f or th e
wa y we c a m e
i n , b u t we s e e m e d to h a v e f ou n d a n oth e r rou te . In th e d a rk e v e ry -
th i n g l ook e d s o m u c h m ore c on f u s i n g . W e p a s s e d s e v e ra l m ore
v a u l ts a n d s m a l l room s , \ a n d a s i g n on on e of th e
h e a v y d oors re a d :
Th e re a re n o c l a s s i f i e d d oc u m e n ts i n th i s v a u l t. B a rn e s p oi n te d to
a rou n d s te e l c on tra p ti on th a t re m i n d e d m e of a s u b m a ri n e d oor.
W a s i t a n e s c a p e rou te ? Di d i t l e a d to s e c re t tu n n e l s ? Re g re tta b l y , I
wa s n ot a b ou t to e xp l ore f u rth e r. W e we re b e c om i n g n a u s e ou s a t
h a v i n g to i n h a l e th e s ta l e tra p p e d a i r a n d
d e s p e ra te l y n e e d e d to
g e t
s om e f re s h a i r i n to ou r l u n g s . As we
s te p p e d ou ts i d e I wa s ov e r-
wh e l m e d
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a f e e l i n g of re l i e f , a n d f ou n d m y s e l f th i n k i n g h ow
f ortu n a te we we re to b e a b l e to wa l k ou t of th a t c on f i n e d s p a c e i n to
a worl d th a t wa s f re e f rom n u c l e a r f a l l ou t.
Ou r n e xt s top wa s th e we a p on s s tora g e a re a . W e p a s s e d
n u m e rou s d u l l b u i l d i n g s on th e
wa y , wi th ou r tou r g u i d e B a rn e s
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1. A M OD F o r m 2 62 A ( F il e R e c o r d S h e e t ) mu s t b e r a is e d f o r e a c h n e w T e mpo r a r y E n c l o s u r e J a c k e t
( T E J ) c r e a t e d . T h e T E J s h o u l d a l s o in c l u d e a min u t e s h e e t .
2 . Wh e n a T E J is in c o r po r a t e d in t o t h e pa r e n t f il e it s h o u l d b e pl a c e d in t h e f il e in d a t e o r d e r ( a c c o r d in g
t o t h e d a t e o f t h e l a s t a c t io n o n t h e T E J ) a n d a l l o c a t e d a n e n c l o s u r e n u mb e r .
3 . T h e f il e min u t e s h e e t s h o u l d b e a n n o t a t e d t o r e c o r d t h e e n c l o s u r e n u mb e r o f t h e T E J a l o n g w it h
d e t a il s o f t h e n u mb e r o f e n c l o s u r e s c o n t a in e d w it h in it . T h e T E J r e c o r d s h e e t ( M OD F o r m 2 62 A )
s h o u l d b e a n n o t a t e d t o r e c o r d t h e d a t e o n w h ic h t h e T E J w a s in c o r po r a t e d in t o t h e pa r e n t f il e ( J S P
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a p p l i e d t o a n y Mi n i s t ry o f D e f e n c e
do c u m e n t c o n c e rn i n g U n i de n t i f i e d F l y i n g O b j e c t s .
An s w e r:
Th e h i g h e s t c l a s s i f i c a t i o n i s S e c re t .
B a c k g ro u n d N o t e : h e a de d U K RES TRICTED
A [ J i m i t e d) s e a rc h o f m a t e ri a l i de n t i f i e d a s re l a t i n g t o U F O s
i n di c a t e s t h a t t h e v a s t m a j o ri t y o f t h e
p a p e rs t h a t e x i s t o n t h e s u b j e c t , o n o p e n a n d c l o s e d f i l e s , a re u n c l a s s i f i e d. D i re c t o ra t e Ai r S t a f f
( S e c re t a ri a t ) h a s t ra c e d a s m a l l n u m b e r o f do c u m e n t s g ra de d S e c re t . Th e y re l a t e t o di s c u s s i o n s
c o n c e rn i n g h a n dl i n g o f c o rre s p o n de n c e a n d a dm i n i s t ra t i v e a rra n g e m e n t s n o t U F O
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g e n e ra t e d o n U n i de n t i f i e d Ae ri a l Ph e n o m e n a ( U AP) . Th e re p o rt c o n c l u de d a l o w p ri o ri t y s t u dy t o
da t a b a s e re p o rt s o f U AP s i g h t i n g s t h a t h a v e b e e n re c e i v e d w i t h i n t h a t a re a o v e r a p e ri o d o f s o m e 30
y e a rs . Th e m a i n c o n c l u s i o n o f t h e re p o rt w a s t h a t s i g h t i n g s p ro v i de d n o t h i n g o f v a l u e t o t h e D IS
a n d a de c i s i o n h a s b e e n t a k e n t o c e a s e w o rk o n t h e s u b j e c t . Th e o v e ra l l c l a s s i f i c a t i o n o f t h e re p o rt
w a s di c t a t e d
b y a n a l y s i s m a t e ri a l i n c l u de d o n t h e U K Ai r D e f e n c e Gro u n d En v i ro n m e n t . Th e
do c u m e n t i s o t h e rw i s e U K Re s t ri c t e d.
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d oi n g w h i l s t a l l t h i s
w a s
g oi n g on . I t ol d h i m t h a t
d ur i n g on e of t h e e v e n t s h e w a s
s up p os e d t o b e a t a n a w a r d s d i n n e r
p a r t y
on t h e
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a n d t h i s i s
w h y h i s
d e p ut y c omma n d e r
w a s i n s t r uc t e d t o i n v e s t i g a t e .
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h i g h l y q ue s t i on a b l e t h a t t h e b a s e
c omma n d e r w oul d c on t i n ue t o h a n d out a w a r d s w h e n t h e r e w a s
s up p os e d t o b e a c r i s i s on . I a s k e d h i m i f h e w oul d
ob l i g e me
b y
g i v i n g
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p a r e n t h e s e s ) .
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Pe r s i n g e r , i f t h e r e w a s a
r e p or t of a h os t i l e
i n v a s i on or a c r a f t t h a t
h a d c ome d ow n ,
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d r op p e d e v e r y t h i n g a n d
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p ol i c e a n d f i r e
d e p a r t me n t s on
a l e r t . Th e
w i n g c omma n d e r
(t h e n Col on e l
Gor d on
W i l l i a ms ) w oul d
h a v e b e e n n ot i f i e d
i mme d i a t e l y . Th e
c omma n d e r i n
c h a r g e of t h e
B e n t w a t e r s AFOSI(Ch uc k Ma t t h e w s ) w oul d h a v e b e e n i n f or me d
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Smi t h ) w oul d
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p ut on a l e r t n ot i f i c a t i on
a n d w oul d
p r ob a b l y h a v e
g on e
out t o
i n v e s t i g a t e . Th e
ma j or i n
c h a r g e of
s e c ur i t y p ol i c e (Ma l c ol m
Z c k l e r ) w oul d h a v e a l e r t e d h i s me n a n d c a l l e d i n t h os e on s t a n d - b y .
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p a t r ol s s ur r oun d t h e c r a f t a n d
g ua r d t h e
s ur r oun d i n g a r e a . ARRSw oul d
n or ma l l y h a v e b e e n c a l l e d i f t h e r e
w a s a n a i r c r a f t d ow n , b ut d ue t o t h e d os e
p r ox i mi t y of t h e b a s e
t h e y
w oul d
n ot h a v e b e e n i n v ol v e d . Th e B r i t i s h
a ut h or i t i e s , s uc h a s t h e
Mi n i s t r y of De f n c e Pol i c e a n d
Sp e c i a l B r a n c h , w oul d h a v e b e e n
i n f or me d ,
a n d of c our s e t h e CIA.
So d i d t h e AFOSIi n v e s t i g a t e , I w a n t e d t o k n ow ?
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Pe r s i n g e r , a f e w y e a r s a f t e r h e r h us b a n d s
r e t i r e me n t
t h e y
r e c e i v e d
a v i s i t f r om Sp e c i a l Ag e n t St e v e Smi t h . He w a s a f a i r l y n e w
. n e
s p e c i a l a g e n t w h o w a s
i n g e r i f ot h e r
a g e n t s w e r e
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r e s p on d e d :
:e d w i t h t h e m.
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of Li e ut e n a n t Fr e d
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d i sg ust i n g l y fi l t h y c o n d i t i o n s at a mak e sh i ft p e ac e
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sp e n t se v e r al we e k s un d e r - c o v e r
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o f
t h e n i g h t
b y
a M i n i st r y o f D e fe n c e p o l i c e o ffi c e r ur i n at i n g o n h e r
fac e . I t se e ms t h i s was o n e
way t h e y r e l i e v e d t h e i r b o r e d o m, an o t h e r
was t o sme ar fae c e s o n t h e t e n t p o l e s. Th e r e h as b e e n muc h sp e c ul a-
t i o n t h at Gr e e n h am Co mmo n was n o n e o t h e r t h an a fr o n t fo r
B e n t wat e r s, wh e r e t h e r e al mi ssi l e s we r e st o r e d . On e wo n d e r s
j ust
h o w d i ffe r e n t t h e R e n d l e sh am F o r e st c ase mi g h t h av e t ur n e d o ut
h ad t h e fo r e st sur r o un d i n g t h e S uffo l k b ase s b e e n o v e r r un
b y t h e
Gr e e n h am Co mmo n p r o t e st e r s.
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i n 19 8 0, was a g r e at sup p o r t e r o f t h e U n i t e d S t at e s Ai r F o r c e i n
Eur o p e . I n f c t , Lo r d Le wi n v i si t e d R AF B e n t wat e r s o n se v e r al
o c c asi o n s an d e v e n t ual l y r e t i r e d t o l i v e n e ar W o o d b r i d g e , wh e r e h e
d i e d a c o up l e o f y e ar s ag o . Ap p ar e n t l y Le wi n was al so a sup p o r t e r o f
n uc l e ar we ap o n s an d ar g ue d t h e n e e d fo r B r i t ai n s
c o o p e r at i o n wi t h
NATO o n t h i s
v e r y sub j e c t .
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o p e n l y
ad mi t
t h at n uc l e ar we ap o n s we r e
d e p l o y e d at B e n t wat e r s, t h e r e i s a c l ue
p e r h ap s: i t se e ms t h at R AF B e n t wat e r s c ar r i e d o ut e x e r c i se s t h at
st i l l r e mai n c l assi fi e d . On 30 J un e 19 9 8 M e mb e r o f Par l i ame n t
M at t h e w Tay l o r p o se d a q ue st i o n t o t h e Ho use o f Co mmo n s
r e g ar d i n g t h e U S AF an d an e x e r c i se c ar r i e d o ut i n t h e U n i t e d
Ki n g d o m:
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M ay
19 8 9 . Th e e x
r e s~ o n d i n g
t o t h e e r a
we ap o n s.
Th e U n i t e
e x e r c i se . A c l assi fi e d
r e aso n s my
h o n F r i e r
g av e
t o t h e h o n M
c o l umn 4 7 0, an d uc
Ac c e ss t o Go v e r n me
t h e r e p o r t .
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c o n t i n ui n g
c o v e r - up t
i n c i d e n t . Co ul d i t b e t
we ap o n s?
I ask e d Ni c k
i ssue .
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o f D ,
we r e o f n o d e fe n c e ~
an d i n v e st i g at e d U I
t h i s wh o l e b usi n e ss
M R M ATTHEW TAYLOR : To ask t h e
S e c r e t ar y o f S t at e fo r D e fe n c e
wh at was t h e sc e n ar i o o f t h e e x e r c i se , Pr o p e r W at c h , i n 19 8 9 ; o n
wh at d at e s an d wh e r e i t t o o k
p l ac e ; i f t h e U n i t e d S t at e s
D e p ar t me n t o f D e fe n se t o o k
p ar t ; an d i f h e wi l l p l ac e a
c o p y
o f
t h e r e sul t s o f t h e e x e r c i se i n t h e Li b r ar y .
M uc h h as b e e n n
i n i t i al i n c i d e n t , b ut V .
i so l at e d c ase o f r ad i at
Ge o r g e W i l d i s a J
Yo r k sh i r e . S e v e r al y e a
t h at
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o f2 7 D e c e mb e r 19 8 (
p r i so n o ffi c e r at Ar m
o ffi c e r s
se mi n ar t h a1
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up
a c o n v e r sat
c l ai me d t o h av e r e (
e v ac uat e t h e b ui l d i n g
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n i g h t . F ur t h e r n
n at i o n al
se c ur i t y . Tl -
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t w o RAF b a s e s a t t h a t t i m e o n l e a s e t o t h e US AF , RAF Be n t w a t e r s a n d RAF W o o d b r i d g e .
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F o r e s t c a m e t o p r o m i n e n c e i n
1983 w h e n a m e m o r a n d u m s e n t t o MOD s h o r t l y a f t e r t h e e ve n t
b y t h e t h e n
De p u t y Ba s e
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c l a i m s a r e a l s o m a d e t h a t US AF p e r s o n n e l m e t a n d c o m m u n i c a t e d w i t h "b e i n g s ".
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a c c u s e s t h e UK e s t a b l i s h m e n t o f a "c o ve r - u p "
t o h i d e t h e d e t a i l o f t h e a l l e g e d e ve n t i n Re n d l e s h a m
F o r e s t . Te x t o f
c o r r e s p o n d e n c e o n t h e s u b j e c t b e t w e e n a r e t i r e d Ch i e f o f De f e n c e
S t a f f , Lo r d Hi l l -
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a n y d e f e n c e
s i g n i t i c a n c e ;
n a m e l y , i f t h e y p r o vi d e e vi d e n c e t h a t t h e Un i t e d Ki n g d o m s
a i r s p a c e m a y h a ve b e e n
c o m p r o m i s e d
b y h o s t i l e o r u n a u t h o r i s e d a i r a c t i vi t y . Un l e s s t h e r e i s
c o r r o b o r a t i n g e vi d e n c e t o
s u g g e s t t h a t t h e UKs
a i r s p a c e
m a y h a ve b e e n c o m p r o m i s e d , MOD d o e s n o t i n ve s t i g a t e o r s e e k t o
p r o vi d e a p r e c i s e e x p l a n a t i o n f o r e a c h o f t h e
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l i g h t s o r n a t u r a l
p h e n o m e n a , c o u l d
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ap p ear ed.
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onl y r e me mb e r
s e e ing s ome cot t a ge s b e s id e t h e
\ Vood b r id ge f l igh d ine . Th e s e we r e mos t
pr ob a b l y F ol e y Cot t a ge s .
K ing e x pl a ine d t h a t t h is wa s not h is us ua l
pa t ch a nd a l t h ough h e
k ne w
W ood b r id ge
ve r y we l l , h e d id not t e nd t o
go
int o t h e f or e s t . I
wond e r e d if h e h a d
gone s t r a igh t a h e a d , t owa r d s t h e f a r me r s f ie l d
ne a r
Ca pe l G r e e n, wh ich woul d h a ve b e e n
s e pa r a t e d f r om t h e f or e s t
b y " l ir e
f e ncing. B ut h e d id not r e ca l l
s e e ing a ny f ie l d or f e ncing.
K ing a nd
B r oph y r e por t e d
t h e y h a d not s e e n
a ny t h ing unus ua l
in
t h e
f or e s t a nd
concl ud e d
t h a t t h e
A me r ica ns h a d conf us e d t h e
l igh t s
wit h t h e Or f or d ne s s
l igh t h ous e . I t ol d
K ing t h a t s e ve r a l
- t I
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YOU
CANT TELL THE PEOPLE
w i t n e s s e s h a d t e s t i f i e d t o s e e i n g l i g h t s o t h e r t h a n t h e l i g h t h o u s e ,
i n c l u d i n g
a c r a f t o f s o me k i n d . I a l s o p o i n t e d
o u t t h a t t h e f i r s t
s i g h t i n g
w a s p r o b a b l y
a r o u n d 23 . 3 0 h r s , a n d w o n d e r e d i f i t w e r e
p o s s i b l e
t h a t s o me t h i n g w a s t h e r e b e f o r e h e a r r i v e d a n d h a d
l o n g
s i n c e g o n e .
I t s
p o s s i b l e . We w e r e c a l l e d o u t l a t e a n d
t h a t s f i v e h o u r s
a f t e r t h a t . I c a n o n l y r e p o r t w h a t I s a w w h e n I w a s t h e r e , s a i d K i n g ,
Wh e n I a s k e d h i m w h a t t h e Ame r i c a n s w e r e d o i n g
o u t i n t h e
f o r e s t i n t h e f i r s t p l a c e , h e a g r e e d t h a t i n n o r ma l
c i r c u ms t a n c e s t h e y
w o u l d n e v e r h a v e i n v e s t i g a t e d o f f t h e i r p a t c h
w i t h o u t c o n s u l t i n g t h e
p o l i c e .
No t
o n e i n c h , h e t o l d me . Wh e n I me n t i o n e d t h a t t h e
Ame r i c a n s h a d l a t e r p u t u p
r o a d b l o c k s n e a r t h e a l l e g e d l a n d i n g s i t e ,
h e w a s n o t a w a r e o f i t , b u t p o i n t e d o u t t h a t t h i s w o u l d h a v e b e e n a
p r i v a t e
r o a d b e l o n g i n g
t o t h e F o r e s t r y Co mmi s s i o n , a n d t h e p o l i c e
w o u l d n o t h a v e b e e n n o t i f i e d h a d t h a t b e e n t h e c a s e .
At 10 . 3 0 h r s t h a t s a me mo r n i n g , RAF B e n t w a t e r s c a l l e d t h e
S u f f l k Co n s t a b u l a r y h e a d q u a r t e r s f o r a s e c o n d t i me . Th e y
w a n t e d
t o r e p o r t
t h a t t h e y
h a d f o u n d a s i t e w h e r e a c r a f t o f s o me s o r t c o u l d
h a v e l a n d e d . I a n Ri d p a t h , w h o t o o k a n i n t e r e s t i n t h e c a s e i n 19 8 3 ,
w r o t e t o t h e c h i e f c o n s t a b l e a t Ma r d e s h a m He a t h i n No v e mb e r o f
t h a t y e a r ,
r e q u e s t i n g
i n f o r ma t i o n o n t h e S u f f o l k
Co n s t a b u l a r y s
a l l e g e d
i n v o l v e me n t . He r e c e i v e d a
r e p l y
s t a t i n g t h a t a n o f f i c e r h a d
a t t e n d e d a n d t h e a r e a i n v o l v e d d i d b e a r t h r e e ma r k s o f a n i n d e -
t e r mi n a t e p a t t e r n , b u t t h e ma r k s w e r e o f n o d e p t h
a n d t h e a t t e n d i n g
o f f i c e r t h o u g h t
a n a n i ma l c o u l d h a v e ma d e t h e m.
K i n g
r e c a l l s s e e i n g t h e me s s a g e i n t h e p o l i c e l o g :
Wh e n I w e n t o n
d u t y
t h e n e x t d a y I s a w a n o t h e r me s s a g e i n t h e
l o g
t h a t h a d c o me f r o m RAP B e n t : w a t e r s a t a r o u n d 10 a . m. o n 26
De c e mb e r . I t s a i d t h e y t h o u g h t t h e y h a d f o u n d t h e p l a c e
w e r e t h e
UF O h a d l a n d e d . An o t h e r p o l i c e o f f i c e r w e n t o u t t o t h e s i t e t h a t
mo r n i n g b u t h e f o u n d n o t h i n g .
On t h e s e c o n d n i g h t o f t h e s i g h t i n g s ( 26/ 27 ) ,
PC Da v e K i n g
a n d
PC Ma r t i n B r o p h y
w e r e i n t h e La w En f o r c e me n t
Of f i c e a t
B e n t w a t e r s w h e n t h e r e p o r t c a me i n . Da v e K i n g
r e c a l l s t h e i n c i d e n t :
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I t was a f r O S t V n i g h t . 1 was
d o i n g mv r o u t i n e c h e c k wi t h t h e Law ~ ..... I , ... .J
E n f o r c e me n t d e sk o n RAF B e n t wat e r s. \ \ 7 e d i d t h at e ve r y n i g h t .
We c h e c k e d i n wi t h t h e m an d e x c h an g e d i n f o r mat i o n . Wh i l e I
was t h e r e an o t h e r r e p o r t c ame i n o n t h e r ad i o , a p o c k e t r ad i o ,
say i n g t h at t h e r e we r e l i g h t s i n t h e f o r e st at t h e e x ac t same
S p O t as
t h e p r e vi o u s n i g h t . T h i s wo u l d n o w b e t h e e ar l y h o u r s o f t h e 27 t h .
I was j u st ab o u t t o
g o
an d h ave a l o o k , t h i n k i n g I
mi g h t se e
so me t h i n g t h i s t i me , wh e n I
g o t an
e me r g e n c y c al l t o at t e n d t o a
p o st o f f i c e b r e ak - i n ab o u t t e n mi l e s
away at O t l e y .
1 ask e d K i n g i f t h e r e was a r e p o r t f i l e d i n t h e p o l i c e l o g f o r t h i s
si g h t i n g .
No , we d i d n t
b o t h e r wi t h i t ; we
j u st t h o u g h t t h e y we r e b o r e d
\ vat c h i n g t h e i r p l an e s, an d b e si d e s we h ad an e me r g e n c y o n . I f
t h at h ap p e n e d t o d ay t h e
p o l i c e wo u l d n t
h ave t i me t o me ss
ar o u n d wi t h i t . I t was a q u i e t t i me d u e t o C h r i st mas so t h e r e
wasn t mu c h
g o i n g
o n . T h e r e we r e r u mo u r st h at t h e Ame r i c an s
h ad se t
u p
se ar c h l i g h t s o n t h at se c o n d n i g h t wai t i n g f o r i t t o
r e r u m, b u t I
d o n t
b e l i e ve i t .
T h e f ac t t h at PC K i n g d i d n o t t ak e t h e i n c i d e n t se r i o u sl y e n o u g h
t o at l e ast mak e a r e p o r t , r e su l t i n g i n i t n o t b e i n g r e c o r d e d i n t h e
p o l i c e l o g ,
i s so me wh at d i st u r b i n g . I p o i n t e d t h i s o u t t o h i m, b u t h e
c o n si d e r e d t h e p o st o f f i c e b r e ak - i n t o b e an
e me r g e n c y an d t h e
si g h t i n g o f l i g h t s i n Re n d l e sh am
Fo r e st t o b e o f l i t t l e c o n se q u e n c e .
I n f ac t , I was c u r i o u s t o k n o w mo r e ab o u t t h e p o st o f f i c e b r e ak - i n ,
an d
wh y K i n g h ad b e e n c al l e d t o an i n c i d e n t t e n mi l e s away . I
t h o u g h t , su r e l y t h e r e mu st h ave b e e n a p o l i c e st at i o n at O t l e y , wh e r e
t h e b r e ak - i n h ad o c c u r r e d , o r at l e ast c l o se r t o t h e i n c i d e n t t h an h e
was.
K i n g ag r e e d t h i s was a d i st an c e
away , al t h o u g h i t was n o t
e n t i r e l y u n u su al t h at
Wo o d b r i d g e
p o l i c e wo u l d b e c al l e d t o i n ve st i -
g at e f u r t h e r af i e l d . Ne ve r t h e l e ss, h e h as c o n f i r me d t h at p at r o l s we r e
o f f b ase f o r a se c o n d n i g h t , an d e ve n
t h o u g h t h e r e i s n o e vi d e n c e t o
su g g e st t h at a l an d i n g o f
an y k i n d t o o k p l ac e t h at n i g h t , we k n o w
t h e r e
we r e u n i d e n t i f i e d
l i g h t s i n t h e
sk y
o ve r Wo o d b r i d g e .
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126
YOu CANT
TELL THE PEOPLE
K i n g an d
B r o p h y f i n i s h e d t h e i r
n i g h t s h i f t s o n t h e
m o r n i n g
o f
27 D e c e m b e r , wh e n
t h e y we n t o n b r e ak f o r a f e w
day s . I f , as h as
b e e n
s ug g e s t e d, t h e
W o o db r i dg e
p o l i c e we r e i n v o l v e d i n t h e
s e c o n d
m aj o r e n c o un t e r , i t h as b e e n a we l l - k e p t
s e c r e t .
Th r o ug h t h e
h e l p o f
M al c o l m Z i c k l e r , wh o was i n
c h ar g e o f t h e
p o l i c e f o r c e s at t h e
b as e s ,
I was ab l e t o c o n t ac t r e t i r e d
Po l i c e
S up e r i n t e n de n t
G e o r g e
Pl um e ,
wh o was t h e o f f i c e r i n
c h ar g e o f t h e
W o o db r i dg e
p o l i c e s t at i o n
dur i n g t h at
p e r i o d. Pl um e s ai d h e was
s ur p r i s e d t o h e ar f r o m
m e
b e c aus e n o o n e h ad
c o n t ac t e d h i m ab o ut t h e c as e i n
e i g h t e e n
y e ar s . I
s o o n r e al i z e d, h o we v e r , t h at h e was n o t o n
dut y
at
an y t i m e
dur i n g
t h e e v e n t s b e c aus e h e
o n l y wo r k e d
t h e
day s h i f t f r o m
0 8 . 0 0 - 18 . 0 0
h r s . Of c o ur s e , h e was awar e t h at
s o m e t h i n g un us ual h ad
o c c ur r e d,
b ut r e m i n de d m e t h at i t was a
l o n g t i m e
ag o , an d i n o r de r t o as s i s t
m e h e wo ul d n e e d t h e
n am e s o f t h e o f f i c e r s c o n c e r n e d.
I f
G e o r g e Pl um e
n e e de d
n am e s I h ad t o f i n d t h e m . On o n e o f
m y t r i p s t o
W o o db r i dg e I de c i de d
t o
p ay
a v i s i t t o t h e l o c al
p o l i c e
s t at i o n .
B e i n g b r o ug h t
up
i n t h e
c o un t r y I k n e w
t h e y we r e
al way s
wi l l i n g t o h e l p v i s i t o r s an d we r e
k n o wn t o b e g e n e r o us wi t h adv i c e .
W o o db r i dg e s t at i o n
l o o k e d
l i k e
an y o t h e r s m al l
c o un t r y
p o l i c e
s t at i o n :
y o u wal k i n t o t h e s m al l
r e c e p t i o n ,
r i n g t h e b e l l an d o ut
p o p s
t h e f r i e n dl y b o b b y . Th e
o f f i c e r was i n de e d
v e r y f r i e n dl y , an d wh e n I
b e g an as k i n g h i m ab o ut t h e
R e n dl e s h am
F o r e s t i n c i de n t an d wan t e d
t o k n o w t h e n am e s o f t h e
p o l i c e o f f i c e r s
i n v o l v e d, h e s e e m e d f am i l i ar
wi t h t h e c as e an d
g av e m e t h e
n am e s o f D av e
K i n g an d M ar t i n
B r o p h y . Hav i n g e X p l ai n e d
t h at I h ad
al r e ady i n t e r v i e we d
K i n g an d
was awar e o f
B r o p h y , I as k e d f o r t h e n am e s o f t h e o t h e r o f f i c e r s
i n v o l v e d.
S ur p r i s i n g l y , h e o f f e r e d
t h e n am e o f B r i an Cr e s we l l , an d I
was t o l d t h at h e h ad
r e c e n t l y
r e t i r e d
f r o m t h e f o r c e an d was s t i l l
l i v i n g l o c al l y . Th e o f f i c e r
c o ul d n o t
r e m e m b e r t h e n am e s o f
an y
o t h e r p o l i c e m e n wh o
m i g h t h av e b e e n
i n v o l v e d, s o I as k e d h i m i f h e
wo ul d e n q ui r e o f h i s
c o l l e ag ue s . He
di s ap p e ar e d i n t o t h e b ac k o f f i c e
an d af t e r wh at s e e m e d l i k e a
v e r y l o n g t i m e , r e t ur n e d wi t h a l o o k o f
s h o c k o n h i s f ac e . He was
p o s i t i v e l y wh i t e !
S o m e t h i n g h ad
h ap p e n e d
i n t h e b ac k o f f i c e an d, wh at e v e r i t
was , i t h ad c aus e d h i m t o c l am
up .
Th e f r i e n dl y p o l i c e o f f i c e r
h ad
s udde n l y b e c o m e
v e r y ag g r e s s i v e .
i f -
ThE
POLICE VILE
127
There i s no u s e
you t ryi ng t o
Cont a c t hi m b ec a u s e he w on t
d i s c u s s
i t ,
he s t a t ed . Cont a c t
w ho?
B ri a n Cres w e! J ?
I a s k ed .
He
d oes n t
w a nt t o t a l k a b ou t i t , s o t here i s no
p oi nt you t ryi ng t o
g et i n
t ou c h
w i t h hi m, he c ont i nu ed . I c ou l d s ee he w a s
v ery a g i t a t ed a nd
w a s
p rob a b l y a ng ry
b ec a u s e he ha d
a l rea d y rev ea l ed t oo mu c h. I
d ec i d ed
t o c ha ng e t he s u b j ec t
s l i g ht l y a nd a s k i f i t w ere p os s i b l e t o v i ew
t he
i nc i d ent l og f or t ha t p a rt i c u l a r
p eri od , t o w hi c h he rep l i ed , Me
you
rec ord i ng
t hi s ?
I t hou g ht t hi s w a s a n od d SOf t of q u es t i on.
Ind eed ,
w hy
w ou l d he b e c onc erned
a b ou t me
rec ord i ng t he
c onv ers a t i on?
R ea l i z i ng I w a s not
g et t i ng
a nyw here, I a s k ed i f he w ou l d s u mmon
one of t he ot her of f i c ers t o t a l k t o me, b u t he f l a t l y ref u s ed , w hi c h I
f ou nd ev en more od d . A f t er
a l l , i t w a s a
q u i et p ol i c e s t a t i on a nd I
w a s req u es t i ng a s s i s t a nc e.
I w a s not s u rp ri s ed t o l ea rn t ha t t he
l og b ook s w ere no
l ong er
a v a i l a b l e, b u t a c c ord i ng t o
G eorg e Pl u me, t he p ol i c e f orc e ha d
c ha ng ed ov er t o c omp u t ers i n
19 75 a nd t heref ore rec ord s of t ha t
p eri od s hou l d s t i l l b e s t ored
s omew here. I ex p l a i ned t hi s t o t he
p ol i c e of f i c er, onl y t o b e t ol d t ha t I w ou l d need t o c ont a c t t he hea d
of f i c e a t Ma rt l es ha m Hea t h. I ha d a b et t er i d ea . A rmed w i t h a na me,
I c ont a c t ed Pl u me. He
rememb ered
B ri a n Cres w el l a nd t ol d me he
w a s l i v i ng i n Ip s w i c h. Cres w el l
ha d ret i red t hree yea rs ea rl i er, a f t er
t hi rt y- t hree yea rs
honou ra b l e
s erv i c e w i t h Her Ma j es t y s p ol i c e
f orc e.
A p p a rent l y, hi s
c ol l ea g u es w ere k now n t o c a l l hi m l Y f ons t er ,
p rob a b l y b ec a u s e he i s ov er s i x f eet t a l l . Pl u me
s u g g es t ed I
t ry c a l l i ng
hi m b u t I eX p l a i ned t ha t hi s nu mb er w a s u nl i s t ed . He s eemed t o
t hi nk i t w a s u nu s u a l f or a ru ra l
p ol i c e of f i c er, ret i red or ot herw i s e, t o
b e l i s t ed a s ex - d i rec t ory.
How ev er, Pl u me w a s a b l e t o u p d a t e me on
Ma rt i n
B rop hy. PC
B rop hy ha d ret i red a c ou p l e of yea rs a f t er t he
i nc i d ent a nd b ei ng v ery a mb i t i ou s
ha d mov ed t o a c i v i l i a n
j ob ,
p os s i b l y w i t h a t ec hnol og y
c omp a ny, a nd w a s l a s t k now n t o b e l i v i ng
nea r R A F Mi l d enha l l .
G eorg e Pl u me ha d b een a
g rea t f i nd , a nd a s a f ormer s eni or
p ol i c e of f i c er he w a s a b l e t o of f er v a l u a b l e
t i p s t ha t hel p ed w i t h
my i nv es t i g a t i on. B u t he
remi nd ed
me of t he USA F c omma nd ers
I ha d
s p ok en t o. They w ere a l l
v ery w i l l i ng t o a s s i s t i n
my enq u i ri es ,
128
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ELL hE
" EO" LE
p r o v i d e d I d i d no t a s k to o
ma ny
q u e s ti o ns
a bo u t
the
i nc i d e nt
i ts e l f T hi s
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v e r y d i f f i c u l t
c o ns i d e r i ng
tha t
wa s
my ma i n
r e a s o n
f o r c o nta c ti ng
the m i n
the
f i r s t
p l a c e .
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s e e me d
to
thi nk
I
Wa s d e l v i ng to o
d e e p a nd
g a v e me a
f r i e nd l y
wa r ni ng to be
c a r e f u 1. T he r e
ha d
be e n
s e v e r a l
o f
the s e
f r i e nd l y
wa r ni ng s ,
mo s tl y
f r o m USAF
c o mma nd e r s ,
bu t
hi s
wa s
e s p e c i a l l y
i nte r e s ti ng ,
i na s mu c h
a s i t
c a me
f r o m a ma n
who
ha d
be e n i n
c ha r g e o f the
Wo o d br i d g e
p o l i c e whe n
a l l thi s
wa s
g o i ng o n.
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o the r s ,
hi s
wa r ni ng wa s i n no
wa y
thr e a te ni ng :
o n the
c o ntr a r y i t wa s
v e r y we l l
me a nt. I t wa s ni c e to
k no w
tha t
s o
ma ny
p e o p l e we r e
c o nc e r ne d
a bo u t
my we l f a r e ,
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o nl y
ma d e
me
r e a l i z e
tha t
s o me thi ng
u nu s u a l mu s t ha v e
o c c u r r e d ,
a nd
ma ybe I
r e a l l y
wa s
g e tti ng to o
d o s e
f o r c o mf o r t.
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to
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B r i a n
Cr e s we l l s
i nv o l v e me nt.
T hi nk i ng
tha t
Cr e s s we l l
mi g ht ha v e
be e n
o ne
o f the
o f f i c e r s
c a l l e d
Ou t
d u r i ng the s e c o nd
l a nd i ng , I wa s
s u r p r i s e d
to
l e a r n
tha t he wa s the
p o l i c e
o f f i c e r
who ha d
v i s i te d
the
l a nd i ng
s i te
a nd
e x a mi ne d
the
g r o u nd
i nd e nta -
ti o ns
the
d a y a f te r
the
i ni ti a l
i nc i d e nt. He
wo nt
ta l k to
yo u , he r e f u s e s
to ta l k to
a nyo ne
a bo u t
i t, s a i d
K i ng . " Whe r e ha d I he a r d
tha t
be f o r e ?
I a s k e d
K i ng
why
Cr e s s we l l
wa s
be i ng s o
s e c r e ti v e .
I c o n-
s i d e r e d
tha t i f he
ha d
f i ni s he d
hi s
d a y s hi f t o n the
26 th, the r e
wa s a
p o s s i bi l i ty he
mi g ht ha v e
be e n
o ne
o f the
o f f i c e r s
c a l l e d
o u t
d u r i ng
ni g ht
d u ty be twe e n
27 a nd
29
De c e mbe r .
K i ng tho u g ht i t wa s a l s o
p o s s i bl e . I t
j u s t s e e me d
s tr a ng e
tha t
he
wo u l d
be s o
e v a s i v e i f a l l he d i d wa s
e x a mi ne
a f e w
r a bbi t
s c r a tc hi ng s .
I t
wo u l d
ta k e
me
s e v e r a l
mo nths
to
l o c a te
B r i a n
Cr e s we l l ,
a nd I wa s
no t
c o nv i nc e d
he
wo u l d
no t
wa nt
to ta l k to me . I n
s p i te o f
wa r ni ng s tha t
wi tne s s e s
wo u l d
no t
c o o p e r a te ,
mo s t
tu r ne d
o u t to be
v e r y
he l p f u l , bu t I wa s
c e r ta i nl y
wr o ng
a bo u t
Cr e s we l l .
T he
l a d y who
a ns we r e d
the
te l e p ho ne
to o k
my na me
a nd a
mi nu te
l a te r he wa s o n the l i ne . I
ha d ba r e 1y
i ntr o d u c e d
mys e l f whe n he
be g a n
s ho u ti ng
d o wn the
p ho ne i n a
v e r y d e te r mi ne d
g r u f f v o i c e .
No w
I k no w
why
Wo o d br i d g e
ha d a l o w
c r i me
r a te
f o r s o
l o ng . Yo u
wo u l d no t wa nt to
g e t o n the
wr o ng
s i d e
o f PC
Cr e s we l l !
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THE
POLICE:
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129
I
know
who
you a r e . I
know
you ha v e
b e e n
t r yi ng t o
f i nd
me .
I
know
you
wa nt
t o
t a l k
t o
me
a nd
I d on t
wa nt t o
t a l k
t o
you. I
ha v e
not hi ng
t o
s a y t o
you, b ut I d o
wa nt
t o
know
who
g a v e
you
my numb e r
b e c a us e
I a m
e x - d i r e c t or y.
Whe n
I t ol d
hi m
hi s
unc l e
ha d
g i v e n
me
t he
numb e r ,
he
woul d
not
b e l i e v e
me , a nd I
t houg ht
i t
wa s
j uS t a s
we l l
he
wa s
not
a Wa r e
t ha t r ha d
hi s wot k
numb e r
t oo,
whi c h
i nc i d e nt a l l y
wa s
g i v e n
t o
me
b y a not he r
r e t i t e d
p ol i c e
of f i c e r
of
t he
s a me
S Ut na me .
At
t hi s
s t a g e
r
e x p e c t e d
hi m t o
s l a m
d own
t he
r e c e i v e r ,
b ur he
wa nt e d
me
t o
know
t ha t
t he
i nc i d e nt
wa s
b ui l t
up OVe r
not hi ng
b ut
r ub b i s h.
It
wa s
us e l e s s
t r yi ng t o
a s k
a ny
q ue s t i ons
b e c a us e
t he s e
we r e
ov e r p owe r e d
b y hi s
ye l l i ng .
R e a l i z i ng
r
onl y
ha d
a
f e w
s e c ond s
wi t h
t hi s
ma n, I
t hr e w
i n
my a c e
a nd
t ol d
hi m
I
ha d a
p hot og r a p h
of a
p ol i c e
of f i c e r
e x a mi ni ng
t he
a l l e g e d
l a nd i ng
s i t e
a nd
I
ha d
r e a s on
t o
b e l i e v e
i t
wa s
hi m.
He
wa nt e d
t o
know
whe r e
I
ha d
g Ot t he
p hot og r a p h,
b ut
t he n
he
a ns we r e d
hi s
own
q ue s t i on
b y
s ug g e s t i ng
i t
mus t
ha v e
c ome
f r om
t he
Ame r i c a ns .
I
e x p l a i ne d
t ha t
I
onl y
wa nt e d
t o
t a l k
t o
hi m
a b out
hi s
v i s i t
t o t he
f or e s t
a nd
hi s
c onc l us i on
t ha t
t he
g r ound
i nd e nt a -
t i ons
he ha d
e x a mi ne d
we r e
not hi ng
mOt e
t ha n
a ni ma l
s c r a t c hi ng s .
He
wa s
c l e a r l y
not
g oi ng t o
d i s c us s
i t .
I
know
wha t I
s a w. I
know
wha t I d i d
a nd I m
not
g i v i ng
you
a ny
i nf or ma t i on,
he
s t a t e d .
I
a p ol og i z e d
f or
t he
i nc onv e ni e nc e
a nd
b i d
hi m
f a r e we l l .
A f e w
mi nut e s
l a t e r
he
r e t ur ne d
my c a l l .
The r e
wa s
s ome t hi ng
he
wa nt e d
me t o
know.
He
ha d
r e t i r e d
f r om
t he
p ol i c e
f or c e
a f t e r
t hi r t y- t hr e e
ye a r s
a nd ,
c ont r a r y t o
r umour s ,
ha d
not
b e c ome
a n
a l c ohol i c
b ut
wa s
a l mos t
t e e t ot a l .
I
r e a l i z e d
he
wa s
r e f e r r i ng
t o
l oc a l
r um
OUr s
a nd
a s s ur e d
hi m I
wa s
not
i nt e r e s t e d
i n
t he m
a nd
t he y
s houl d
not
c onc e r n
hi m
e i t he r ,
p oi nt i ng
OUt
t ha t
t he y
we r e
r e l a t e d
t o
t wo
of f i c e r >
who
ha d
a l l e g e d l y
b e e n
i nv ol v e d
i n
t he
s e c ond
ma j or
i nc i d e nt .
Wi t h
t ha t
he
of f e r e d
a n
a p ol og y f or
t he
wa y he ha d
r e a c t e d
a nd
t he
c a l l
wa s
t e t mi na t e d .
In
a l l
t he
t i me
r ha d
b e e n
wor ki ng
on
t hi s
c a s e
r ha d
ne v e t
c or ne
a c r os s
a nyb od y
who
wa s
s o
r e l uc t a nt
t o
t a l k
a b out
i t .
Ac c or d i ng
t o
wi t ne s s
J i m
Pe nni s r on,
t he
p ol i c e
of f i c e r
who
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130
YOU CANT
TELL . H E PEOPLE
i n v e s t i g a t e d t h e
l a n d i n g s i t e wa s
a d a ma n t t h a t h e wa s n ot
g oi n g t o
r e p or t
a n y t h i n g ot h e r t h a n t h a t
t h e y we r e a n i ma l
s c r a t c h i n g s .
Wh e n
Pe n n i s t on
d e s c r i b e d t h e UFO t o
h i m, t h e of f i c e r r e f u s e d
t o
wr i t e
i t i n h i s
r e p or t . Fr om
wh a t h e t ol d
me , Pe n n i s t on
wa s
c l e a r l y
b ot h e r e d
b y
wh a t h e
t h ou g h t wa s t h e
p ol i c e of f i c e r s
a p p a r e n t l a c k of
i n t e r e s t i n t h e
e v i d e n c e ; I h a v e
of t e n
won d e r e d wh a t
wou l d
h a v e
h a p p e n e d i f a f u l l
p ol i c e
r e p or t h a d b e e n wr i t t e n
b a s e d
on
Pe n n i s t on s
f i r s t - h a n d
e n c ou n t e r
wi t h a UFO. I wi s h e d
t h e r e
h a d
b e e n a n
op p or t u n i t y t o d i s c u s s
t h i s wi t h
Cr e s s we l l .
M a l c ol m Z i c k l e r
a s s u r e d
me t h e r e
wa s a B r i t i s h
p ol i c e
p r e s e n c e
on B e n t wa t e r s . H e c a l l e d i t a s u b d i v i s i on ,
a n d h e i s i n n o d ou b t
t h a t
t h e s e of f i c e r s we r e
f u l l y a wa r e of t h e
i n c i d e n t . I t t u r n e d ou t t h a t
G e or g e Pl u me wa s s t a t i on e d
a t
B e n t wa t e r s
f or s e v e r a l
y e a r s a f t e r h i s
r e t i r e me n t , b u t wa s n ot t oo
h a p p y wh e n I d i s c ov e r e d
t h i s , wh i c h I
b e l i e v e h e
t h ou g h t wa s n on e of
my b u s i n e s s .
Z i c k l e r
e X p l a i n e d t h a t
t h e r e we r e
a l wa y s on e or t wo
B r i t i s h
p ol i c e of f i c e r s on t h e b a s e , a n d
a f t e r - h ou r s
t h e y wou l d b e c a l l e d i f t h e r e we r e
a n y c i v i l i a n
v i s i t or s .
S ome t i me s t h e r e we r e
t h os e
wh o
d r a n k t oo mu c h a n d
t h e y
a p p a r e n t l y h a d
g i r l p r ob l e ms .
Z i c k l e r
r e c ou n t e d , S ome
of t h e
g i r l s
we r e t h e r e t o l ook f or
h u s b a n d s ,
a n d t h e r e we r e t h os e wh o we r e
l ook i n g f or
s ome t h i n g e l s e
-
t h e
Col c h e s t e r l ot . S o we h a d t o c a l l
t h e m i f t h e r e we r e
p r ob l e ms .
I me t Ni c k
Ry a n a t a s oc i a l
f u n c t i on I a t t e n d e d a t t h e
B u l g a r i a n
Amb a s s a d or s
h ome i n
Lon d on .
Ni c k
wa s wi t h t h e e l i t e Ai r Re s c u e
a n d
Re c ov e r y S q u a d r on , b a s e d a t
RAP
Wood b r i d g e f r om 1982 t o
1984 . I
s p e n t t h e
e v e n i n g
d r i l l i n g h i m on t h e Re n d l e s h a m
For e s t
i n c i d e n t , t h e b a s e s a n d
e s p e c i a l l y t h e
ARRS . H e c on f i r me d t h a t a t
l e a s t on e B r i t i s h
p ol i c e l i a i s on
of f i c e r
wa s s t a t i on e d a t B e n t wa t e r s
d u r i n g of f i c e h ou r s . I a s k e d h i m i f
t h e y wou l d h a v e b e e n i n v ol v e d i n
t h e i n c i d e n t .
Th e B r i t i s h c i v i l i a n
p ol i c e wou l d
n ot h a v e b e e n n ot i f i e d a b ou t t h i s
i n c i d e n t u n t i l i t wa s ov e r .
Un d e r n o
c i r c u ms t a n c e s
wou l d we h a v e
i n v ol v e d t h e c i v i l i a n
p ol i c e . We
wou l d
c a l l t h e m a f t e r wa r d s t o
f i n d ou t i f
t h e y h a d
a n y r e p or t s , i t wa s a
wa y of
f i n d i n g ou t i f
a n y
c i v i l i a n s we r e i n v ol v e d .
B u t we
wou l d n ot a s k f or a s s i s t a n c e on
T
I
j
I
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s o m e t h i n g
l i k e t h i s . T h e MOD Po l i c e a r e r e s p o n s i b l e f o r t h e a r e a s
s u r r o u n d i n g a n y
USAFb a s e s i n B r i t a i n . I f n e e d b e , t h e y
wo u l d b e
r e q u i r e d
t o g u a r d t h e a r e a a r o u n d t h e p e r i m e t e r s .
Ho we v e r , Ma j o r
Ed wa r d Dr u r y
t o l d m e o u t r i g h t t h a t t h e B r i t i s h
c i v i l
p o l i c e
we r e i n v o l v e d i n t h e s e c o n d i n c i d e n t b u t c o u l d n o t
s u p p l y
m e
wi t h n a m e s . He e v e n r e m a r k e d t h a t i t wa s a l o c a l p o l i c e
o f f i c e r
h e wa s f r i e n d l y
wi t h wh o h a d t o l d h i m t h e r e wa s a D- N o t i c e
s l a m m e d
o n t h e i n c i d e n t . (A
D- N o t i c e i s a g o v e r n m e n t
i n s t r u c t i o n
g i v e n
t o t h e p r e s s r e q u e s t i n g
t h e m n o t t o p u b l i s h b e c a u s e i t i n v o l v e s
n a t i o n a l
s e c u r i t y .)
W o o d b r i d g e
r e s i d e n t G e r r y Ha r r i s h a d a s t o r y t o t e l l a b o u t t h e
c i v i l i a n
p o l i c e .
So o n a f t e r h i s o wn s i g h t i n g h e b e c a m e c u r i o u s , a n d
f o l l o wi n g
h i s
c o n v e r s a t i o n wi t h s o m e o f t h e f o r e s t e r s h e d e c i d e d t h e
b e s t wa y
t o f i n d o u t wa s t o v i s i t t h e a r e a f o r h i m s e l f . On 29
De c e m b e r
h e wa s p a s s i n g
t h e e a s t - g a t e e n t r a n c e t o t h e W o o d b r i d g e
b a s e
wh e n h e n o t i c e d a B r i t i s h p o l i c e m a n a n d a n Am e r i c a n s e c u r i t y
p o l i c e m a n
g u a r d i n g
t h e e n t r a n c e t o a f o r e s t l o g g i n g
p a t h .
Mt e r
p a r k i n g
h i s v a n , h e a p p r o a c h e d
t h e p o l i c e o f f i c e r t o t e l l h i m o f h i s
i n t e n t i o n t o v i s i t t h e f o r e s t t o s e e wh a t wa s
g o i n g
o n . As i n c r e d i b l e
a s i t m a y
s e e m ,
Ha r r i s c l a i m s t h e Am e r i c a n r e f u s e d t o a l l o w h i m
a c c e s s . He a r g u e d
t h a t i t wa s a p u b l i c f o o t p a t h a n d h e h a d a r i g h t t o
e n t e r b u t wa s t o l d , i n n o u n c e r t a i n wo r d s ,
G o
a wa y . N o t e a s i l y
d i s c o u r a g e d ,
h e m o v e d f o r wa r d o n l y t o s e e t h e Am e r i c a n c o c k h i s
~ v l - 16 r i f l e a n d t o h e a r t h e B r i t i s h p o l i c e m a n wa r n h i m ,
Y o u b e t t e r
d o a s h e s a y s .
On e b u r n i n g q u e s t i o n h a s t o b e , wh o wa s t h e B r i t i s h
p o l c e o f f i c e r ? I f
Ha r r i s s r e c o l l e c t i o n o f e v e n t s i s c o r r e c t i t p o s e s
s o m e e v e n m o r e i m p o r t a n t q u e s t i o n s : (a ) wh y
wa s a USAFs e c u r i t y
p o l i c e m a n g u a r d i n g
B r i t i s h t e r r i t o r y ? (b ) W h y
wa s t h e USAF
s e c u r i t y p o l i c e m a n
a r m e d o n B r i t i s h t e r r i t o r y ? (c ) W h y
wa s a
USAFs e c u r i t y
p o l i c e m a n a l l o we d t o t h r e a t e n a B r i t i s h c i t i z e n o n
B r i t i s h t e r r i t o r y ?
I t h a s b e e n a d i f f i c u l t t a s k t r y i n g
t o f i n d t h e n a m e s o f t h e
p o l i c e m e n wh o wo u l d h a v e b e e n o n n i g h t d u t y
d u r i n g
t h e r e s t o f
Ch r i s t m a s we e k . Ov e r t h e y e a r s t h e Su f f o l k Co n s t a b u l a r y a p p e a r
t o
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132
YQUCANT
TELL THE PEOPLE
h a v e
gone to gr e a t l e ngth s to
p r ote c t th e
i d e nti ty of th e s e offi c e r s .
As
a r e s u l t, l oc a l r u mou r s we r e
i nv e nte d a nd th e s e a r e wh a t
a p p e a r to
h a v e
u p s e t B r i a n Cr e s we l l . Th e
gi s t of th e ta l e s i s th a t one of th e
offi c e r s wa s
s u p p os e d to h a v e b e e n s o d i s tu r b e d
b y
th e i nc i d e nt
th a t
h e e nd e d
u p
i n a me nta l i ns ti tu ti on.
Th e oth e r wa s s a i d to h a v e
s u ffe r e d s e v e r e s h oc k a nd
b e c ome a n a l c oh ol i c . I h a d
a l r e a d y
c h e c k e d ou t th e s e s tor i e s a nd k ne w
th e y we r e
noth i ng b u t nons e ns e .
W h i l s t I a d mi t th a t I h a v e not b e e n a b l e to tr a c e e i th e r of th e s e
me n,
none of th e l oc a l p ol i c e me n I h a v e
s p ok e n to
a p p e a r s to k now
a ny th i ng a b ou t th e s e c l a i ms . I r e a l i z e th e p ol i c e h a v e b e e n
v e r y c a ge y
a b ou t th i s c a s e , a nd i t i s
p os s i b l e th a t two l oc a l p ol i c e me n we r e
i nv ol v e d , b u t I a m s u r e wor d of th e m
h a v i ng l e ft th e for c e i n s u c h
s tr a nge c i r c u ms ta nc e s
wou l d b e k nown
l oc a l l y . G e or ge Pl u me
th ou gh t th e s tor i e s we r e
v e r y a mu s i ng, b u t i ns i s te d th a t th e r e wa s
not a gr a i n of tr u th to th e m.
I
wou l d h a v e k nown i f th a t h a d
h a p p e ne d . None of th e me n l e ft th e for c e for th os e r e a s ons , h e
e x c l a i me d . I c ou l d not
h e l p wond e r i ng i f i t wa s Pl u me wh o h a d
for e wa r ne d B r i a n Cr e s we l l
a b ou t th e s e s tor i e s a nd
my
i nte r e s t i n
tr y i ng
to c onta c t h i m. Ei th e r th a t or s ome one wa s l i s te ni ng i n on
my
p h one l i ne .
Da v e
K i ng d oe s not b e l i e v e th e r e wa s
a ny c ov e r - u p
b y
th e
S u ffol k Pol i c e . He tol d me :
I d i d nt
k now th i s wa s a
s tor y u nti l I fi r s t h e a r d a b ou t th a t b ook
S k y c r a s h a fe w y e a r s l a te r . Th e r e a s on th os e r e s e a r c h e r s ne v e r h e a r d
fr om u s wa s b e c a u s e
th e y gOt th e d a te
wr ong. Th e y c a me to th e
p ol i c e s ta ti on
s a y i ng i t wa s th e 27 th , b u t th e r e wa s nt
a
l og of i t
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t h e M a r r l es h a m p ol i c e r ec or d s for h i m t o r efer t o. U n l es s t h e p ol i c e
offi c er s wh o wer e a l l eg ed l y i n vol ved i n t h e i n c i d en t or i t s a ft er ma t h
c ome for wa r d , t h en i t i s u n l i k el y we wi l l p r og r es s
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wer e i n n o wa y
i n vol ved i n a c over - u p . However , h e s u g g es t ed t h e
offi c er s c ou l d b e r el u c t a n t t o d i s c u s s t h e c a s e i n g en er a l b ec a u s e t h ey
a r e a fr a i d i t mi g h t b e c l a s s ed a s s ec r et , or b ec a u s e t h ey wer e
d i s c ou r a g ed t o t a l k t o t h e p r es s .
A l s o, on 22
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of Defen c e Pol i c e. I wa n t ed t o k n ow i f t h ey wer e i n vol ved i n t h e
i n c i d en t . On 17 A u g u s t I wa s s u r p r i s ed t o r ec ei ve a r ep l y
fr om t h e
c h i ef of t h e d ep a r t men t , Pa u l A . Cr owt h er , wh os e t i t l e i s
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W o r k i n g ag e i s m e n ag e d 1 6 - 6 4 an d w o m e n ag e d 1 6 - 5 9 . I n c l u de s t h o s e w h o di d n o t an s w e r , b u t p e r c e n t ag e s ar e b as e d o n t o t al s
e x c l u di n g t h e m .
Sam p l e s i z e t o o s m al l f o r r e l i ab l e e s t i m at e .
So u r c e :
L ab o u r F o r c e Su r v e y ( w i n t e r 1 9 9 5 - 9 6 ) , Of f i c e f o r Nat i o n al St at i s t i c s .
H i g h l y I n de b t e d P o o r Co u n t r i e s I n i t i at i v e
Mr . Bi l l Mi c h i e : T o as k t h e Ch an c e l l o r o f t h e
Ex c h e q u e r w h at as s e s s m e n t h e h as m ade o f t h e r e c e n t l y
ag r e e d h i g h l y i n de b t e d p o o r c o u n t r i e s i n i t i at i v e ; an d i f h e
w i l l m ak e a s t at e m e n t . [ 1 3 29 ]
Mr s . A n g e l a K n i g h t : I r e f e r t o t h e an s w e r I g av e t o
t h e h o n . Me m b e r f o r Ne w h am , No r t h - Eas t ( Mr . T i m m s )
o n 1 4 Oc t o b e r , Of f i c i al Re p o r t . c o l u m n s 7 0 5 - 7 0 6 ,
D EF ENCE
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Mr . L l e w Sm i t h : T o as k t h e Se c r e t ar y o f St at e f o r
D e f e n c e w h at as s e s s m e n t h e h as m ade o f t h e r e p o r t o f
t h e Can b e r r a Co m m i s s i o n o n t h e e l i m i n at i o n o f n u c l e ar
w e ap o n s . [ 29 3 1 ]
Mr . So am e s : W e h av e n o t e d t h e c o n c l u s i o n s o f t h e
Can b e r r a Co m m i s s i o n . W e r e m ai n c o m m i t t e d t o t h e
p u r s u i t o f n e g o t i at i o n s i n g o o d f ai t h o n e f f e c t i v e m e as u r e s
r e l at i n g t o n u c l e ar di s ar m am e n t , as s e t o u t i n ar t i c l e VI o f
t h e n u c l e ar n o n - p r o l i f e r at i o n t r e at y . Bu t n u c l e ar
di s ar m am e n t c an n o t r e al i s t i c al l y b e p u r s u e d
i n de p e n de n t l y o f t h e b r o ade r s e c u r i t y c o n t e x t . W e an d
NA T O c o n t i n u e t o j u dg e t h at n u c l e ar de t e r r e n c e p l ay s an
e s s e n t i al r o l e i n m ai n t ai n i n g p e ac e an d s t ab i l i t y i n Eu r o p e .
U n i de n t i f i e d F l y i n g Ob j e c t s
Mr . Re dm o n d: T o as k t h e Se c r e t ar y o f St at e f o r
D e f e n c e i f h e w i l l m ak e a s t at e m e n t o n t h e c i r c u m s t an c e s
o f t h e t w o o c c as i o n s r e f e r r e d t o i n h i s an s w e r o f 24 J u l y ,
Of f i c i al Re p o r t , c o l u m n 4 24 , w h e n RA F ai r c r af t w e r e
s c r am b l e d o r di v e r t e d f r o m t as k t o i n v e s t i g at e
u n c o r r e l at e d r adar t ar g e t s ; i f t h e o b j e c t s w e r e i de n t i f i e d;
1 3 CW I J . P A G 1 1 1 3
i f i t w as j u dg e d t h at b r e ac h e s o f U n i t e d K i n g do m ai r s p ac e
h ad o c c u r r e d; an d i f h e w i l l l i s t al l s i m i l ar i n c i de n t s w h i c h
h av e o c c u r r e d s i n c e 1 9 7 9 . [ 29 3 2]
Mr . So am e s : T h e t ar g e t s w e r e i de n t i f i e d as Ru s s i an
m ar i t i m e p at r o l ai r c r af t an d w e r e i n t h e n o r t h e r n p o r t i o n
o f t h e U K ai r de f e n c e r e g i o n . T h e y di d n o t p e n e t r at e U K
ai r s p ac e . I n f o r m at i o n c o v e r i n g t h e p e r i o d f r o m 1 9 7 9 i s
n o t h e l d i n a r e adi l y av ai l ab l e f o r m an d c o u l d b e p r o v i de d
o n l y at di s p r o p o r t i o n at e c o s t an d e f f o r t .
D e f e n c e w h e n U n i t e d K i n g do m m i l i t ar y p e r s o n n e l w e r e
b r i e f e d ab o u t t h e s c r am b l i n g o f Be l g i an F - 1 6 ai r c r af t o n
3 0 an d 3 1 Mar c h 1 9 9 0 ; w h e n t h e u n i de n t i f i e d f l y i n g
o b j e c t c o n c e r n e d w as de t e c t e d o n U n i t e d K i n g do m r adar
s y s t e m s ; an d i f RA F ai r c r af t w e r e s c r am b l e d. [ 3 1 8 5 ]
Mr . So am e s : . T h e Be l g i an au t h o r i t i e s di d n o t n o t i f y
adj ac e n t c o u n t r i e s b e c au s e n o t h r e at w as p e r c e i v e d. T h e r e
i s n o e v i de n c e o f r adar c o n t ac t s w i t h i n t h e U K ai r
de f e n c e s y s t e m .
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D e f e n c e i f t h e r adi at i o n r e adi n g s , r e p o r t e d t o h i s
D e p ar t m e n t b y L i e u t e n an t Co l o n e l Ch ar l e s H al t o n
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b ac k g r o u n d r adi at i o n i n t h e ar e a; an d i f h e w i l l m ak e
a s t at e m e n t . [ 29 3 4 ]
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as s e s s m e n t o f t h e r adi at i o n r e adi n g s r e p o r t e d b y
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Ge o r g i n a Br u n i p u b l i s h e d i n No v e m b e r 2000 a n d MOD h a n d l i n g o f m a t e r i a l r e l a t i n g t o
UF Os .
Th r e e a r e b e i n g a n s w e r e d
b y MOD, o n e
b y
t h e H o m e Of f i c e a n d o n e i s t o b e a n s w e r e d
b y (DERA).
Mi s s Br u n i s
b o o k,
"Yo u c a n t t e l l t h e p e o p l e " c o n c e r n s a w e l l kn o w n
UF O i n c i d e n t a l l e g e d t o
h a v e o c c u r r e d i n Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t i n S u f f o l k o v e r t h e Ch r i s t m a s p e r i o d i n 1 9 8 0 i n t h e v i c i n i t y o f
t w o RAP b a s e s a t t h a t t i m e o n l e a s e t o t h e US AF , RAF Be n t w a t e r s a n d RAF W o o d b r i d g e .
2. Th e s u b j e c t o f t h e i n c i d e n t s a i d t o h a v e t a ke n p l a c e i n Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t c a m e t o p r o m i n e n c e i n
1 9 8 3 w h e n a m e m o r a n d u m s e n t t o MOD s h o r t l y a f t e r t h e e v e n t
b y
t h e t h e n
De p u t y
Ba s e
Co m m a n d e r , L t Co l Ch a r l e s H a l t US AF , w a s u n e a r t h e d i n t h e US b y
r e s e a r c h e r s . Th e H a l t
m e m o r a n d u m d e s c r i b e s t h e a l l e g e d i n c i d e n t i n s o m e d e t a i l a n d i s r e p r i n t e d i n t h e b o o k w h e r e
c l a i m s a r e a l s o m a d e t h a t US AF p e r s o n n e l m e t a n d c o m m u n i c a t e d w i t h "b e i n g s ". Th e b o o k
a c c u s e s t h e i l l ( e s t a b l i s h m e n t o f a
"c o v e r - u p "
t o h i d e t h e d e t a i l o f t h e a l l e g e d e v e n t i n Re n d l e s h a m
F o r e s t . Te x t o f c o r r e s p o n d e n c e o n t h e s u b j e c t b e t w e e n a r e t i r e d Ch i e f o f De f e n c e S t a f f , L o r d H i l l -
No r t o n , a n d a p r e v i o u s MOD Mi n i s t e r i s r e p r i n t e d i n t h e b o o k.
3 .
MOD s i n t e r e s t i n
UF O s
i s l i m i t e d t o w h e t h e r a l l e g e d s i g h t i n g s m i g h t h a v e a n y d e f e n c e
s i g n i f i c a n c e ; n a m e l y , i f t h e y p r o v i d e e v i d e n c e t h a t t h e Un i t e d Ki n g d o m s a i r s p a c e m a y h a v e b e e n
b y
h o s t i l e o r u n a u t h o r i s e d a i r a c t i v i t y . Un l e s s t h e r e i s c o r r o b o r a t i n g e v i d e n c e t o
UK s
a i r s p a c e m a y h a v e b e e n c o m p r o m i s e d , MOD d o e s n o t i n v e s t i g a t e o r s e e k t o
p r o v i d e a p r e c i s e e x p l a n a t i o n f o r e a c h o f t h e
UF O
l e t t e r s a n d r e p o r t e d s i g h t i n g s r e c e i v e d e a c h
y e a r . MOD b e l i e v e s t h a t r a t i o n a l e x p l a n a t i o n s , s u c h a s a i r c r a f t l i g h t s o r n a t u r a l p h e n o m e n a , c o u l d
b e f o u n d f o r m o s t o f t h e s i g h t i n g s . H o w e v e r , i t i s n o t t h e f u n c t i o n o f MOD t o p r o v i d e t h i s ki n d o f
a e r i a l i d e n t i f i c a t i o n s e r v i c e a n d r e s o u r c e s a r e n o t d i v e r t e d f o r t h i s p u r p o s e .
known c i v i l i a ns t o h e a r
1 9 9 9 . < 9 G e or g i na B r u ni
r a l P e t r S . D e y ne ki n, t h e
A i r F or c e ( c e nt r e ) , a nd
: r C h i e f of S t a f f of t h e
i on c i r c a 1 9 9 6 . C ou r t e s y
A C KNOWLED G EMENTS
RA P B e nt wa t e r s ( 1 9 9 9 ) .
i f or t r a i ni ng p u r p os e s ) ,
s i t e s ( 1 9 9 9 ) . < 9 G e or g i na
Th i s b ook h a s onl y b e e n ma d e p os s i b l e t h a nks t o a g r e a t ma ny
p e op l e .
I a m d e e p l y
i nd e b t e d t o
my a g e nt , A nd r e w Lowni e , f or h i s
e nc ou r a g e me nt , s u p p or t a nd e f f or t s .
My
t h a nks a l s o t o
my
e d i t or
G or d on S c ot t Wi s e , Ed i t or i a l D i r e c t or a t S i d g wi c k a nd J a c ks on, f or
h i s e nt h u s i a s m a nd p a t i e nc e a nd f or h e l p i ng
me t o t u r n t h i s
e x t r a or d i na r y , c omp l e x c a s e i nt o a v a l u a b l e c a s e b ook. To Ni c k P op e
f or c ont r i b u t i ng t h e f or e wor d , f or a d v i s i ng me on t h e b e s t wa y t o
ob t a i n g ov e r nme nt d oc u me nt s a nd f or h i s p r e c i ou s c ont r i b u t i ons .
To
my
p a r e nt s , t i l y a nd f r i e nd s f or t h e i r u nd e r s t a nd i ng of
my
i s ol a t i on wh i l s t wor ki ng on t h i s i nv e s t i g a t i on.
Th i s s t or y c ou l d not h a v e b e e n t ol d wi t h ou t t h e g e ne r ou s
a s s i s t a nc e of t h e wi t ne s s e s a nd ma ny p e op l e
wh o h a v e p l a y e d
a n
i mp or t a nt r ol e i n t h e s e s t r a ng e e v e nt s . I a m e s p e c i a l l y g r a t e f u l t o
Ma j or
G e ne r a l G or d on E. Wi l l i a ms US A F ( r e r . ) f or h i s p a t i e nc e a nd
c ont r i b u t i ons a nd a l l owi ng me t o i nt e r v i e w h i m i n p e r s on. To
f or me r S p e c i a l A g e nt Wa y ne P e r s i ng e r , D e p u t y
C omma nd e r , A i r
F or c e Of f i c e of S p e c a l I nv e s t i g a t i ons ( B e nt wa t e r s ) , US A F ( r e t . ) ,
f or
h i s c ont r i b u t i ons . To C ol one l S a m P . Mor g a n US A F ( r e t . ) , f or
p r ov i d i ng
me wi t h t h e f i r s t
c op y
of t h e
H a l t Ta p e . To Ra y G u l y a s
US A F ( r e t . ) a nd h i s wi f e Ma r y a nn, f or t h e i r c ont r i b u t i ons a nd f or
l e a d i ng me t o t h e or i g i na l p h ot og r a p h s
of t h e i ni t i a l l a nd i ng s i t e . I
a m g r a t e f u l t o a l l t h e s e me n a nd wome n f or a l l owi ng me t o
i nt e r v i e w t h e m a nd f or a s s i s t i ng me wi t h
my
e nq u i r e s : Ri c k B ob o
US A F ( r e t . ) ,
Li e u t e na nt C ol one l F r e d
S ki p
B u r a n US A F ( r e t . ) ,
A d r i a n B u s tnza US A F ( r e t . ) , Tony B r i s c i a no US A F , Ed wa r d N.
C a b a ns a g US A F ( r e t . ) , G a r y
C ol l i ns , Li e u t e na nt C ol one l B e r na r d E.
RA P Wood b r i d g e , t a ke n
a nu a r y 1 9 8 1 ) . < 9 A d r i a n
1 9 ) . @ G e or g i na B r u ni
l i ng s i t e s h owi ng b a r r e n
d C a p t a i n Mi ke V e r r a no
or ni ng a f t e r t h e i nc i d e nt
wi ng t h e s c u f f e d - u p a r e a
t h r e e i nd e nt a t i ons i n a
g s ( 2 6 D e c e mb e r 1 9 8 0 ) .
~ ( 2 6 D e c e mb e r 1 9 8 0 ) .
v i ng i nd e nt a t i on ma r ke d
u l y a s
u l y a s
u l y a s
) f f i c e r a nd C a p t a i n Mi ke
V Ra y G u l y a s
s a t RA P W ood b r i d g e l
. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
X I I I
USAF ( r e t . ) , Timot hy
Cha r l e s 1 . H a l t USAF
: t . ) , An t hon y J ohn s on
~ ,
Wil l ia m Kir k USAF
d r on Le a d e r Don a l d
; : r s in g e r , Ma is ie P e t t it ,
d t USAF ( r e t . ) , St e v e
< Simms USAF ( r e t . ) ,
on RAF ( r e t . ) ,
J e r r y
Va ug hn USAF ( r e t . ) ,
l a n t Col on e l Ma l c ol m
Thur k e t t l e ,
Ge or g e
Wil d a n d Ma r j or ie Wr ig ht
f or s ha r in g
t he ir
s t on e s .
I
woul d a l s o l ik e t o t ha n k t he f ol l owin g p e op l e
f or t he ir
a s s is t a n c e
a n d p a t ie n c e : J a me s An d e r s on ,
De r e k B a r n e s , Lin n
B a r r in g e r ,
Ke it h B e a b e y, Gr a ha m Wil l ia m B ir d s a l l ,
Mr s Da v id
B oa s t ,
J a me s
B uc k l e s USAF ( r e t . ) , J ohn
La wr e n c e B r ig g s ,
Lie ut e n a n t
Col on e l Al B r own USAF ( r e t . ) ,
Rob in D. Col e , P a ul
Cr owt he r ,
J a c q uie l in e Da v is , Ve r n on Dr a n e , Se a n Eme r s on USAF
( r e t . ) ,
J a c k ie
Er r in g t on , Ma r y
Ev e r e s t , Luc ius Fa r is h, H a l a n E.
Gir a r d ,
Wa l t e r F. H e r n USAF ( r e t . ) , Ton y
Mc Ev oy,
Fr e d Nun n ,
Lie ut e n a n t
Col on e l P e v s k y
USAF ( r e t . ) ,
P e t e r P hil l ip s , J e f f
Re n s e ,
I a n Rid p a t h,
Nic k
Rya n
ARRS, USAF ( r e ! . ) ,
Ma l c ol m Sc ur r a h,
An d r e w She e p s ha n k s , Simon Smit h, St e v e Smit h USAF ( r e t . ) ,
Ga yn or
Sout h, Le e Sp e ig e l
a n d Rob e r t Tod d .
An d l a s t b ut
b y
n o me a n s l e a s t : Al a n Ak e r oyd ,
De n n is B a r d e n s ,
Ron B ur r e l l USAF ( r e t . ) , Sa l l y B r own ,
Cha r l e s Chow,
Ne il
Cun n in g ha m,
B r ia n Cr e s we l l , J on a t hon Dil l on , An n Dr ur y,
Mr s
Dr ur y
SRN, Timot hy Good , Dr J a n e Gr un d y
B Sc ( H on s )
P hD DSc
FRCP a t h, Ron H a r l a n , B ob H ig g in s ,
Ka n e , Mic he l e Ka c z yn s k i,
Dr
Ge r ha r d Kn e c ht , Dr H e l mut F. La mme r ,
Rowe n a Na yl or ,
Wil l ia m
J ohn Na yl or ,
Da n She r ma n USAF ( r e t . ) ,
Ma r t in St out ,
B r uc e
Ta yl or ,
B e r n a r d Thoua n d , Gl e n mor e
Tr e n e a r - H a r v e y
RAF ( r e t . ) ,
J e n n y
Ra n d l e s , Son ia Whit e , Ma r t in Wood , An g l ia
I n t e r n a t ion a l
Air p a r k ,
CAUS, Comp uSe r v e ,
Col c he s t e r
B a r r a c k ~ ,
Kod a k ,
Min is t r y
of De f e n c e f or Air , Min is t r y
of De f e n c e P ol ic e , Min is t r y
of
De f e n c e Lib r a r y, Sig ht in g s Ma g a z in e ,
Suf f ol k
Con s t a b ul a r y,
Suf f ol k
Re c or d Of f ic e , UFO Ma g a z in e ( UK) ,
Un op e n e d
Fil e s . To f r ie n d s
P e n e l op e
B ouc hot - H umb e r t , La d y
An n a B r oc k l e b a n k ,
Rob e r t A.
B e l l a n d Lor d An t hon y Le it r im, f or you
k n ow wha t , Wa l t e r F. H e r n
USAF ( r e t . ) ,
CUFON, Ea s t An g l ic a n P r e s s , Q ue s t ,
Un it e d St a t e s
Air For c e . To e v e r yon e I mig ht ha v e f a il e d t o me n t ion , my
a p ol og ie s ,
a n d of c our s e n ot f or g e t t in g Al a n , b e c a us e you
a l wa ys
k n e w.
o r e ma m a n on ymous .
ha t c he r . To Mic ha e l
) f t he Fl e e t , The Lor d
l s e his e x c ha n g e of
1 1 1 Gor d on Kin s e y f or
in g t he his t or y of
f or s howin g me t he
a n d f or s ha r in g he r
H , v a l ua b l e a s s is t a n c e
hy
B oe c he , An t on io
l f or
op e n in g t he ir ol d
i a l s o t o t he f ol l owin g
a n d a s s is t a n c e , t hus
h. Da v id B on n e r B Sc
J e r t he l p on hyp n o-
d c on t r ib ut ion s , a n d
: . B ud d H op k in s f or
:
he l p in g wit h l oc a l
. e t . ) f or his c on t a c t s ,
f t he e a r l y ye a r s . Da v e
e or g e P l ume f or his
i f r ie n d s hip , p a t ie n c e
: on t r ib ut ion s . Ma n y
l ik e Top l is s , Vin c e n t
DEFENDING
THE
REALM
: 3 1 1
l s i b l e f o r
h a n d l i n g
h e a t h , Mi l d e n h a l 1 ,
l e r
He y f o r d . On e
; wh e n La k e n h e a t h
l ch a n d
Re co v e r y .
l Is
up
a t t h e s a me
ck
a g a i n wa s a r e a l
i t wa s co n s i d e r e d
; t o s mo o t h
t h i n g s
a l
Na v y co n t r o l l e r
f o r g e t wh a t
t h e y h a d s e e n
b e ca us e i t wa s
o n l y po a ch e r s a n d i t wa s
n o w a ma t t e r f o r t h e l o ca l
po l i ce .
Ne i t h e r o f t h e wi t n e s s e s
b e l i e v e d
t h e
po a ch e r
s t o r y a n d , a s
Th o mps o n
r e ca l l s , t h e i r
n o t e b o o k s
co v e r -
i n g t h a t
pa r t i cul a r
n i g h t we r e
i mme d i a t e l y
co n f i s ca t e d .
He a l s o
cl a i ms t h a t t h e
d ut y l o g i n
Ope r a t i o n s
a n d t h e
o ccur r e n ce
l o g we n t
mi s s i n g .
Acco r d i n g t o
Th o mps o n , t h e l o s s o f o n e o f t h e s e
l o g s wo ul d
r e s ul t i n a
ma j o r
i n v e s t i g a t i o n
a n d i n t h e ca s e o f RAF
po l i ce wo ul d
n e v e r
h a ppe n .
Acco r d i n g t o
Th o mps o n , f o r
s e v e r a l
d a y s a f t e r t h e
i n ci d e n t
Ame r i ca n s
v i s i t e d t h e f o r e s t
a r o un d
t h e
pe r i me t e r o f t h e
Wa t t o n
b a s e .
J us t a f t e r t h e Ne w Y e a r
Th o mps o n wa s a t t h e l o ca l
pub l i c
h o us e , a n d wh i l s t i n t h e
co mpa n y o f a
co upl e o f ci v i l i a n
po l i ce f r o m
t h e a r e a h e r e me mb e r s
j o k i n g wi t h t h e m
a b o ut t h e l o ca l s
f i l l i n g t h e i r
f r e e z e r s wi t h
po a ch e d
s h e e p a n d
v e n i s o n . It
a ppe a r s t h a t t h e l o ca l
po l i ce we r e un a wa r e o f
a n y
po a ch i n g
a ct i v i t y
d ur i n g t h e
n i g h t i n
q ue s t i o n ,
t h o ug h i t wa s
k n o wn
t h a t
po a ch e r s d i d
o pe r a t e i n t h e a r e a
a l l
y e a r r o un d .
Th e y we r e a l s o
s ur pr i s e d t o h e a r a b o ut t h e
un us ua l
l i g h t s a n d h a d n o t b e e n t o l d t h a t
Ame r i ca n s
we r e
me s s i n g a r o un d i n
t h e f o r e s t . We r e t h e s e t h e s a me
Ame r i ca n
s ci e n t i s t s
wh o
we r e
r e po r t e d t o h a v e b e e n
i n v e s t i g a t i n g
Re n d l e s h a m
Fo r e s t ?
Th o mps o n h a d mo r e t o
a d d ,
e x pl a i n i n g t h a t
i mme d i a t e l y
a f t e r
t h e Wa t t o n i n ci d e n t a t e a m o f f o ur
B r i t i s h
g o v e r n me n t
s ci e n t i s t s ,
s uppo s e d l y f r o m t h e
f v Ii n i s t r y o f
De f e n ce
Re s e a r ch
C e n t r e ,
P o r t o n
Do wn , we r e d r i v e n t o t h e
f o r e s t
b y a n o t h e r o f h i s
co l l e a g ue s , a l s o a n
RAP
po l i ce ma n . On ce i n t h e
f o r e s t , t h e
s ci e n t i s t s
ch a n g e d i n t o
s t r a n g e - l o o k i n g
s pa ce - t y pe s ui t s wi t h
t ub e s
r un n i n g i n t o a i r co m-
pr e s s o r s wh i ch s e e me d t o b e
co n n e ct e d
t o t h e i r
b a ck s . Th e
po l i ce
o f f i ce r
wa s l e f t
wa i t i n g f o r t h e m
wh i l e
t h e y wa n d e r e d o f f
t h r o ug h t h e
t r e e s .
On t h e i r r e t ur n
t h e y ch a n g e d b a ck i n t o t h e i r
cl o t h e s ,
pa ck e d
t h e i r s ui t s a n d cl i mb e d i n t o t h e v e h i cl e i n
co mpl e t e s i l e n ce . In f a ct , t h e
o n l y wo r d
t h e y s po k e d ur i n g t h e wh o l e t i me
t h e y we r e i n t h e
po l i ce
o f f i ce r s
co mpa n y wa s a
s i mpl e g o o d b y e
a s
t h e y s pe e d i l y d e pa r t e d .
On e
ca n n o t
d i s mi s s t h e
po s s i b i l i t y t h a t t h e r e
ma y b e a co n n e ct i o n
b e t we e n
t h e
Re n d l e s h a m
Fo r e s t
i n ci d e n t
a n d RAP Wa t t o n . Th e r e a r e
o b v i o us
s i mi l a r i t i e s
b e t we e n t h e t wo :
t h e y o ccur r e d o n t h e s a me
d a t e s ;
g h a n d l e r s we r e o n
e y we r e t a s k e d t o
h , n e a r t h e a i r f i e l d
l ut e s
pr i o r t o t h e i r
up ( a s i t wa s l a t e r
e ,
a n d t h e s t a t i o n
[Hi v e d a t t h e f e n ce
b e
g r e e n a n d b l ue
n f r o m o n e o f t h e
ps e ud o n y m) .
a n d wh e n we
! i ck l y . We
o n l y
n d t h e s e d i d n t
j r cl o t h e s we r e
r e f l e ct t h e l i g h t
[l i k e
t h e y we r e
.
i n f r a r e d
l i g h t
i g h t . Th e
d o g s
r d s , wh i ch wa s
l a d e o ur r e po r t
r r g B r i t i s h o f f i ce r
1 we r e a d v i s e d t o
~
, . . . . . -
c,
DEFENDING THE REALM 313
n t h e
s k y
a n d s t r a n g e
r v i e w w i t h a s u p e r i o r
~ y s a w , a n d t h e g o v e r n -
In f a ct t h e o n l y t h i n g
P o r t o n Do w n Re s e a r ch C e n t r e , s i t u a t e d i n W i l t s h i r e , i s o n e o f
t h e U n i t e d K i n g d o m s m o s t s e cr e t i v e a n d s e n s i t i v e s i t e s . K n o w n a s
t h e C h e m i ca l a n d B i o l o g i ca l De f e n ce Es t a b l i s h m e n t , i t w a s f o u n d e d
i n 19 16 t o co m b a t Ge r m a n
g a s a t t a ck s . If t h i s ce n t r e w a s i n v o l v e d
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t h e U S a n d U K d e f e n ce
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Hi g h p o i n t P r i s o n , a n d
p o s s i b l y
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w h a t e v e r v i r u s o r co n t a m i n a t i o n t h e v i s i t o r s m i g h t h a v e b r o u g h t
w i t h t h e m . Th i s w o u l d a l s o i n d i ca t e t h a t , co n t r a r v t o t h e i r d e n i a l ,
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i n v e s t i g a t i o n b u t m a d e
p r e p a r a t i o n s .
I s p o k e t o a s ci e n t i s t w h o i s f a m i l i a r w i t h P o r t o n Do w n Re s e a r ch
C e n t r e . Sh e e x p l a i n e d t h a t i n t h e e v e n t o f a n u n k n o w n t h r e a t , a l l
p r e ca u t i o n s w o u l d b e t a k e n . W h e n d e a l i n g w i t h t h e u n k n o w n , s u ch
a s o b j e ct s l a n d i n g f r o m
s p a ce , y o u w o u l d a i m f o r t h e h i g h e s t l e v e l o f
i s o l a t i o n i n ca s e t h e y b r o u g h t a n i n f e ct i o u s a g e n t . W h e n I d e s cr i b e d
t h e m e n i n w h i t e s u i t s w i t h t u b e s a t t a ch e d t o t h e i r b a ck s , s h e
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p r o b a b l y h a v e b e e n u s e d a s a
p r o t e ct i o n a g a i n s t d e a l i n g w i t h a n u n k n o w n m i cr o b i o l o g i ca l t h r e a t .
I h a d t o co n cl u d e t h a t i f t h e r e w a s a r i s k o f a n u n k n o w n t h r e a t , i t
w o u l d b e m u ch e a s i e r t o e v a cu a t e t h e l o ca l co m m u n i t y i n s u ch a
cr i s i s , b u t t h e g o v e r n m e n t w o u l d w a n t t o h a v e t h e p r i s o n e r s m a d e
m o r e s e cu r e i n ca s e t h e y l a t e r h a d t o d e a l w i t h a n a t i o n a l d i s a s t e r .
Th e m o r e I l o o k e d i n t o t h e Re n d l e s h a m Fo r e s t i n ci d e n t a s b e i n g a
p o s s i b l e b i o l o g i ca l t h r e a t , t h e m o r e I b e g a n t o b e l i e v e t h a t t h i s w a s
i n d e e d s o m e t h i n g t h a t o u r d e f e n ce d e p a r t m e n t s w e r e v e r y m u ch
co n ce r n e d a b o u t .
Lo r d Hi l l - No r t o n s h o u l d b e co n g r a t u l a t e d f o r h i s d i l i g e n t e f f o r t s
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h e w r o t e t o Lo r d Gi l b e r t a t t h e Ho u s e o f Lo r d s b u t w a s f u r i o u s w h e n
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Roy W eb b , Lieutenant
Col onel M al c ol m
Z ic k l er USAF
( r et. ) and to al l thos e w ho w is h to r emain
anony mous .
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M ar g ar et Thatc her . To M ic hael
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my q ues tions . To Ad mir al of the Fl eet, The Lor d
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Hil l - Nor ton
G CB f or
al l ow ing me to us e his
ex c hang e of
c or r es pond enc e w ith Lor d G il b er t. To his tor ian
G or d on
K ins ey f or
his
k now l ed g eab l e
hel p w ith
und er s tand ing the
his tor y of
Or f or d nes s and
B aw d s ey . To B r end a
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l and ing s ites ,
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inter view her and f or
s har ing her
impor tant f il es . To Dot Str eet f or her
humour , val uab l e
as s is tanc e
and f or
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Ray B oec he, Antonio
Huneeus , M ar k B ir d s al l and
Nic hol as
Red f er n f or
opening their ol d
f il es on the c as e f or me to
s tud y .
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peopl e w ho have
g iven muc h of their time and as s is tanc e,
thus
mak ing a val uab l e
c ontr ib ution
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my r es ear c h. David B onner B Sc
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f or his
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humour and
c ontr ib utions ,
and
B ar r y G r eenw ood f or his val uab l e
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B ud d
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tak ing
my q ues tions and B il l
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hel ping w ith l oc al
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Captain M ik e
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k now l ed g e of the
ear l y y ear s . Dave
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and
G eor g e Pl ume f or his
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patienc e
and
und er s tand ing , and f or his
pr ec ious
c ontr ib utions .
M any
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Beginning with the C astguard at, I believe. L y m ingto n~ they
so o n gave m e the answer that ~ no thing was repo rted~ ..no t
even an ai~ c raf t! Onto Hy the Po lic e Statio n..ditto ! They
patc hed
m e
to Bitterne Statio n sinc e that stands in f o r
Netley Abbey ditto c urrently ..I knew that any way ..they in
turn put m e thro ugh to Po lic e C entral C o ntro l who also had
no repo rts o f ac tivity o r airc raf t and suggested, in any
c ase, the po lic e
do n~ t
po ssess a helic o pter, o nly a
plane..whic h sta~ em ent had reperc ussio ns c o nc erning a
previo us inc ident o bserved by Netley residents! Ho wever,
f ro m there I c o ntac ted Air Traf f ic C o ntro l...denial o f
any thing they knew , abo ut. I then tried Air Sea Resc ue at L ee
o n So lent..an af f able so unding c hap also said~ no repo rts~
f o r that night but put m e o n to so m e kind o f Spec ial Air
Servic e who
apPFlrently o versee inc idents. No thing to ~ epo rt
but suggested it m ight I tave been a ~ private
inc ident. I
queried this and was to ld So utham pto n Water waan~ t
a
" c o ntro lled area"
and ~ any o ne
c o uld do any thing o ver
it~ .
The m ind bo ggled at this.
Finally , and in so m e so rt o f desperatio n, I rang, via the
telepho ne bo o k, the MOD/RAF/USADA ( ! ) at Hy the..I m ean, ho w
high c an y o u go ?.and a p~ easant eno ugh
guy
brief ly
disc ussed the inc ident...when I desc ribed it he said ~ y o u
are talking abo ut a UFO, arent y o u?~
I said
~ y es ,
sinc e it
was so f ar " unidentif ied, "
all I was try ing to do was get
any answer! No t surprisingly , in view o f m y rec ipients
status and o rganisatio n, he said he c o uldnt answer that o ne
any way but put m e o nto ano ther so urc e whic h gave m e the
by
then f am iliar rejo inder. By then I had c o m e to a f ull sto p1
C an y o u wo nder? We have, o f c o urse, the video sho uld y o u
wish to take this f urther.
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r m ight add...rec all
m y previo us artic le to y o u? that the
intrepid sky watc hing gro up repeated their prac tic e o f go ing
o n, af ter the inc ident, to Netley Ro y al Vic to ria Park where
they had enc o unters o f a dif f erent kind, ...even m o re so
than the f irst o c c asio n when they had lef t the park rather
hurriedly ! I f y o u are wo ndering what " spo o ks, gho sts" etc
etc have to do with UFO~ s..m y
f riends, m any researc hers and
ac tual " experienc ers"
have c o m e aro und to the
c o nc lusio n" bac ked
up by no table pro f essio nals..that
" it"
is
all ONE that c o m es under the " um brella"
o f what we c all the
parano rm al..an interdim ensio nal area o f sc ienc e that Quantum
phy sic s have m ade the paradigm leap into in the last dec ade.
Sinc e I am just o ne who has had these experienc es..still
o ngo ing c urrently f ro m the last sixty o dd y ears o r so ..r c an
go alo ng with all this. By the
way , tho se " gho stly "
Park
experienc es were f urther added to o ver the May Bank Ho liday
when I c asually m entio ned them to o ne o f the park~ s
tea
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W r i t t e n A n s , l e r s A 6
A r me d F o r c e s : Re dr e s s e s o f Co mp l a i n t
The s y s t e ms w i l l p r o v i de w a r n i n g Of b a l 1 i s t i c mi s s i l ~
l a u n c he s , di r e c t l y c o n t r i b u t i n g t o t he s e c u r i t y ( ) f t ~
UK. Thi s do e s n o t a f f e c t t he c o mme r c i a l
i n t e r e s t s i l
e i t he r t he UK o r o t he r EU me mb e r s . I n t e r p r e t a t i o n o f
t he A n t i - Ba l l i s t i c M i s s i l e Tr e a t y i s a ma t t e r f o r t he
p a r t i e s t o t ha t t r e a t y .
0 l f - l t
The Ea r l o f Ca r l i s l e a s k e d He r M a j e s t y s
G o v e r n me n t :
Ho w ma n y t i me s , s i n c e 1 M a y 1 9 9 7 , a r e dr e s s o f
c o mp l a i n t , ma de b y
a n o f f i c e r o r a n o t he r r a n k i n
t he A r me d F o r c e s , ha s t a k e n mo r e t ha n 1 2 mo n t hs
t o p r o c e s s f r o m s u b mi s s i o n t o c o n c l u s i o n ; a n d w ha t
w a s t he r e a s o n f o r t he de l a y i n e a c h c a s e . [ HL 4 1 4 4 ]
The M i n i s t e r o f S t a t e , M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e ( Ba r o n e s s
S y mo n s o f V e r n ha m D e a n ) : The n u mb e r o f r e dr e s s e s o f
c o mp l a i n t s u b mi t t e d s i n c e 1 M a y
1 9 9 7 w hi c h t o o k
mo r e t ha n 1 2 mo n t hs t o b e c o n c l u de d w a s 5 7 f o r t he
A r my a n d s e v e n f o r t he RA F . I n a ddi t i o n , t he A r my
ha s 1 0 2 c a s e s a n d t he RA F 1 2 c a s e s w hi c h r e ma i n
u n r e s o l v e d a f t e r 1 2 mo n t hs . The s e f i g u r e s c o v e r
c o mp l a i n t s p r o c e s s e d w i t hi n t he c ha i n o f c o mma n d
a n d b y
t he S e r v i c e Bo a r d. The Na v y o n l y c o l l e c t s
i n f o r ma t i o n c e n t r a l l y o n c a s e s w hi c h f a l l t o b e
de t e r mi n e d b y
t he b o a r d. On t hi s b a s i s , f o u r c a s e s t o o k
mo r e t ha n 1 2 mo n t hs t o r e s o l v e a n d s e v e n c a s e s a r e
s t i l l o u t s t a n di n g .
The mo s t c o mmo n r e a s o n s f o r de l a y a r e t he n e e d t o
c a r r y o u t s p e c i a l i n v e s t i g a t i o n s , w hi c h ma y
i n v o l v e
s e r v i c e p o l i c e i n q u i r i e s a n d t he t a k i n g o f w i t n e s s
s t a t e me n t s ; t he n e e d t o t a k e l e g a l o r o t he r e x p e r t
a dv i c e ; a n d t he e x t e n s i v e c o n s u l t a t i o n r e q u i r e d o n
c o mp l a i n t s w hi c h c ha l l e n g e e x i s t i n g p o l i c y . D e l a y s a r e
a l s o c a u s e d b y
c o mp l a i n a n t s , o r t he i r l e g a l
r e p r e s e n t a t i v e , s e e k i n g i n f o r ma t i o n f r o m t he
de p a r t me n t t o he l p t he m f o r mu l a t e t he i r c o mp l a i n t ,
a ddi n g n e w c o mp l a i n t s a s t he r e dr e s s p r o c e s s e s o r
de l a y i n g t he i r r e s p o n s e t o t he di s c l o s u r e t o t he m o f a l l
r e l e v a n t p a p e r s b e f o r e t he i r c a s e i s s u b mi t t e d t o t he
S e r v i c e Bo a r d.
A l t ho u g h t he s e r v i c e s s e e k s t o de a l w i t h a l l
c o mp l a i n t s e x p e di t i o u s l y , t he o v e r r i di n g i mp o r t a n c e
o f t he t ho r o u g h i n v e s t i g a t i o n a n d c a r e f u l
c o n s i de r a t i o n o f c o mp l e x c o mp l a i n t s o f t e n mi l i t a t e s
a g a i n s t t hi s .
US Na t i o n a l S e c u r i t y A g e l l c y :
M
l 1 W i t l i Hi l l
L o r d Ke u n e t a s k e d He r M a j e s t y s G o v e r n me n t :
W he t he r c u r r e n t l y p l a n n e d de v e l o p me n t s b y
t he
Un i t e d S t a t e s Na t i o n a l S e c u r i t y A g e n c y a t M e n w i t h
Hi l l a r e u n de r t he Un i t e d Ki n g do m s o p e r a t i o n a l
c o n t r o l a n d a r e c o mp a t i b l e b o t h w i t h t he p r o v i s i o n s
o f t he A n t i - Ba l l i s t i c M i s s i l e Tr e a t y a n d w i t h t he
s e c u r i t y a n d c o mme r c i a l i n t e r e s t s o f t he Un i t e d
Ki n g do m a n d o t he r me mb e r s o f t he Eu r o p e a n
Un i o n .
[ HL 4 1 9 9 ]
Ba r o n e s s S y mo n s o f V e r n ha m D e a n : He r M a j e s t y s
G o v e r n me n t r e t a i n l e g a l p o s s e s s i o n a n d c o n t r o l o v e r
s i t e s ma de a v a i l a b l e f o r u s e b y
t he Un i t e d S t a t e s
v i s i t i n g f o r c e s . Op e r a t i o n a l c o n t r o l o f de p l o y e d f o r c e s
r e s t s w i t h t he Un i t e d S t a t e s . The f a c i l i t i e s c u r r e n t l y
u n de r c o n s t r u c t i o n a t RA F M e n w i t h Hi l l , w hi c h r e l a t e
t o t he US S p a c e - Ba s e d I n f r a - Re d S y s t e m, w i l l b e
o p e r a t e d i n a c c o r da n c e w i t h t he s e p r i n c i p l e s .
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W TO Ne g o t i a t i o n s : A CP S u p p l y i n g
S t a t e s
L o r d M o y n i ha n a s k e d He r M a j e s t y s G o v e r n me n t :
W he t he r , i n t he c o n t e x t o f t he f o r t hc o mi n g W o r l d
Tr a de Or g a n i s a t i o n n e g o t i a t i o n s , t he y w i l l s u p p o r t
a b a l a n c e d a g e n da
a c c o mmo da t i n g t he c o n c e r n s
a n d i n t e r e s t s o f A f r i c a n , Ca r i b b e a n a n d Pa c i f i c
( A CP) s u p p l y i n g
s t a t e s . [ HL 4 2 1 3 ]
The M i n i s t e r f o r S c i e n c e , D e p a r t me n t o f Tr a de a n d
I n du s t r y ( L o r d S a i n s b u r y o f Tu r v i l l e ) : He r M a j e s t y s
G o v e r n me n t ha v e ma de c l e a r t he i r c o mmi t me n t t o
e n s u r i n g t ha t t he a g e n da f o r n e w c o mp r e he n s i v e
n e g o t i a t i o n s i n t he \V i O s ho u l d t a k e f u l l a c c o u n t o f
t he n e e ds a n d p r i o r i t i e s o f a l l de v e l o p i n g c o u n t r i e s .
S o v e r e i g n t y
a b o v e Na t i o n a l A i r s p a c e
L o r d Ke n n e t a s k e d He r M a j e s t y s G o v e r n me n t :
W he t he r t he y c o n s i de r n a t i o n a l s o v e r e i g n r i g ht s
p e r t a i n t o v e hi c l e s , w he t he r c i v i l o r mi l i t a r y , t ha t
o p e r a t e a b o v e n a t i o n a l a i r s p a c e . [ HL 4 1 9 5 ]
L o r d S a i n s b u r y o f Tu r v i Ue : Na t i o n a l s o v e r e i g n t y
a p p l i e s t o a i r s p a c e ; n o s o v e r e i g n t y a p p l i e s i n o u t e r
s p a c e . The r e i s n o e s t a b l i s he d de f i n i t i o n o f t he he i g ht
a t w hi c h a i r s p a c e e n ds a n d o u t e r s p a c e b e g i n s .
Re g a r di n g v e hi c l e s , a s t a t e o n w ho s e r e g i s t r y a s p a c e
o b j e c t a p p e a r s
r e t a i n s j u r i s di c t i o n a n d c o n t r o l o v e r
s u c h o b j e c t w hi l e i n o u t e r s p a c e ( A r t i c l e V I I I , 1 9 6 7 ,
Ou t e r S p a c e Tr e a t y ) .
Ho s p i t a l D o c t o r s : S u s p e n s i o n
Ba r o n e s s Kn i g ht o f Co l l i n g t r e e a s k e d He r
M a j e s t y s G o v e r n me n t :
W he n Ba r o n e s s Kn i g ht o f Co l l i n g t r e e c a n e x p e c t
a n a n s w e r c o n c e r n i n g t he i n t r o du c t i o n o f n e w r u l e s
g o v e r n i n g t he s u s p e n s i o n o f ho s p i t a l
do c t o r s ,
r e q u e s t e d b y
a c o mmi t t e e o f me di c a l e x p e r t s
a n d
s u b mi t t e d b y
he r t o t he G o v e r n me n t M i n i s t e r i n
J u l y .
[ HL 4 1 7 1 ]
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1 . A Te m p o r a r y Ja c k e t w i l l o n l y be u s e d w he n t he Re g i s t e r e d F i l e i s n o t a v a i l a bl e .
2 . The c o n t e n t s o f a Te m p o r a r y Ja c k e t m u s t be i n c o r p o r a t e d i n t he Re g i s t e r e d F i l e a t t he e a r l i e s t
o p p o r t u n i t y , a n d t hi s i n c o r p o r a t i o n r e c o r d e d o n a t r a n s i t s l i p o r f i l e r e c o r d s he e t .
3 . The m o v e m e n t s o f Te m p o r a r y Ja c k e t s a r e r e c o r d e d by t he Re g i s t r y . Tr a n s i t i s t o be r e c o r d e d o n t r a n s i t
s l i p s a s f o r Re g i s t e r e d F i l e s .
D OWNGRAD I NG
( t o be c o m p l e t e d w he n t he j e c k e t i s i n c o r p o r a t e d i n t he Re g i s t e r e d F i l e )
Thi s j a c k e t m a y be d o w n g r a d e d t o :- RESTRI CTED o n . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
UNCLASSI F I ED ( i n s e r t d a t e )
Ce r t i f y i n g Of f i c e r . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Thank you
for your let t er of 13 January (Ref:
GOVT- 01- RO- SP-
09- C) t o George Robert son about sight ings of light s in t he sky
over Swansea on t he evening of 8 Oct ober. I am replying in view of
my
responsibilit y for milit ary aircraft act ivit y in t he UK.
Two Sea King helicopt ers, one from RAF Chivenor and one from
RAF Valley, were given permission t o land at Swansea Airport on
t he evening of 8 Oct ober 1998 . We believe t hat t he light s from
t hese helicopt ers hovering near Swansea Airport might have been
responsible for what was seen.
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I hope t his is helpful.
JOHN SPELLAR
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A f t e r t h e e s t a b l i s h m e n t o f t h e S c o t t i s h P a r l i a m e n t ,
S c o t t i s h Mi r u s t e r s w b e a b l e t o m a k e Or d e r s o r
D i r e c t i o n s i n r e l a t i o n t o i n i t i a t i v e s
a p p l y i n g
i n S c o t l a n d
o n l y , a n d a s a p p r o p r i a t e m a k e D i r e c t i o n s i n r e l a t i o n t o
t h e a p p l i c a t i o n i n S c o t l a n d o f UK w i d e i n i t i a t i v e s , a f t e r
c o n s u l t a t i o n w i t h a n d , w h e r e n e c e s s a r y , t h e c o n s e n t o f
m y
r i g h t h o n . F r i e n d t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e .
My r i g h t h o n .
F r i e n d w i l l r e m a i n r e s p o n s i b l e f o r Or d e r s o r D i r e c t i o n s
r e l a t i n g t o UK w i d e i n i t i a t i v e s , a f t e r c o n s u l t a t i o n w i t h
S c o t t i s h Mi r u s t e r s . Th e d e t a i l s o f t h e s e a r r a n g e m e n t s a r e
s t i l l u n d e r c o n s i d e r a t i o n .
HOUS E OF COMMONS
Te l e p h o n e L i n e s
Mr . W e b b : To a s k t h e Ch a i r m a n o f t h e I n f o r m a t i o n
Co m m i t t e e w h a t p l a n s h e h a s t o e n s u r e t h a t h o n . Me m b e r s
h a v e a c c e s s t o I S D N t e l e p h o n e l i n e s . [ 6 1 4 38 ]
Mr . Ri c h a r d A l l a n : A n h o n . Me m b e r w h o h a s a s p e c i f i c
c o m m u n i c a t i o n s r e q u i r e m e n t c o n c e r n i n g h i s P a r l i a m e n t a r y
d u t i e s s h o u l d r a i s e t h e m a t t e r w i t h t h e D i r e c t o r o f
Co m m u r u c a t i o n s . Th e p r o v i s i o n o f c o m m u n i c a t i o n s ,
i n c l u d i n g I S D N, a t l o c a t i o n s o u t s i d e t h e P a r l i a m e n t a r y
Es t a t e i s c u r r e n t l y b e i n g c o n s i d e r e d , a n d t h e I n f o r m a t i o n
Co m m i t t e e w i l l b e d i s c u s s i n g t h i s i n t h e n e w y e a r .
D EF ENCE
Te r r i t o r i a l A r m y
Mr . Bo b Rn s s e l l : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e h o w m a n y v a c a n c i e s t h e r e w e r e f o r t h e
Te r r i t o r i a l A r m y a n d Vo l u n t a r y Re s e r v e
( a )
i n Ma y 1 9 9 7
a n d ( b )
a t t h e l a t e s t d a t e f o r w h i c h f i g u r e s a r e
a v a i l a b l e . [ 6 08 6 0}
Mr . D o u g He n d e r s o n : Th e Te r r i t o r i a l A r m y
e s t a b l i s h m e n t i n Ma y 1 9 9 7 w a s 59 , 000 p o s t s , o f w h i c h
55, 9 00 w e r e f i l l e d , I n Oc t o b e r 1 9 9 8 , t h e l a t e s t d a t e f o r
w h i c h f i g u r e s a r e a v a i l a b l e , t h e e s t a b l i s h m e n t w a s a l s o
59 , 000 p o s t s , o f w h i c h 53, 8 4 7 w e r e f i l l e d .
S e r v i c e P e r s o n n e l ( El e c t o r a l Ro l l )
Mr . Bo b Ru s s e l l : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
D e f e n c e w h a t p r o c e d u r e s e x i s t f o r s e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l t o b e
r e g i s t e r e d o n t h e e l e c t o r a l r o l l ; a n d w h a t p r o p o s a l s h e h a s
t o i n c r e a s e t h e n u m b e r o f r e g i s t r a t i o n s . [ 6 08 6 2 }
Mr . D o u g He n d e r s o n : S e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l m a y v o t e
o n l y w h e n t h e y a r e r e g i s t e r e d a s S e r v i c e Vo t e r s . Th e
Re p r e s e n t a t i o n o f t h e P e o p l e A c t 1 9 9 3 o b l i g e s m y
D e p a r t m e n t t o e n s u r e t h a t a l l e l i g i b l e m e m b e r s o f t h e
A r m e d F o r c e s a n d t h e i r s p o u s e s a r e g i v e n t h e o p p o r t u n i t y
a n d a d e q u a t e a s s i s t a n c e t o r e g i s t e r a s S e r v i c e v o t e r s . To
r e g i s t e r , p e r s o n n e l m a k e a S e r v i c e d e c l a r a t i o n t o t h e
e l e c t o r a l r e g i s t r a t i o n o f f i c e r f o r t h e a r e a i n w h i c h
t h e a p p l i c a n t s q u a l i f y i n g a d d r e s s i s s i t u a t e d , a n d t h i s
s i n g l e r e g i s t r a t i o n r e m a i n s v a l i d t h r o u g h o u t a S e r v i c e
c a r e e r . S p o u s e s m a y r e g i s t e r a s e i t h e r S e r v i c e o r c i v i l i a n
v o t e r s .
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d e t a i l e d i n f o r m a t i o n o n t h e t i m e t a b l e f o r m i t t i n g
d e c l a r a t i o n s t o e n s u r e i n c l u s i o n i n t h e r e g i s t e r o f e l e c t o r s
f o r . P a r l i a m e n t a r y , Eu r o p e a n P a r l i a m e n t a n d l o c a l
g o v e r n m e n t e l e c t i o n s .
I n s t r u c t i o n s o n t h e a c t i o n r e q u i r e d t o m a k e i n i t i a l S e r v i c e
d e c l a r a t i o n s o r t o m a k e n e w o n e s o n a n y c h a n g e o f a d d r e s s
a r e a l s o i n c l u d e d i n t h e Re g u l a t i o n s . I n a d d i t i o n , e a c h
S e r v i c e i s s u e s f o r m a l r e m i n d e r s a n n u a l l y d e s c r i b i n g t h e
r e g i s t r a t i o n p r o c e d u r e s a n d l i s t i n g t h e r e l e v a n t f o r m s t o b e
c o m p l e t e d . Th e r e m i n d e r s d r a w a t t e n t i o n i n p a r t i c u l a r t o
t h e n e e d t o r e - r e g i s t e r o r t o a m e n d q u a l i f y i n g a d d r e s s e s
w h e r e n e c e s s a r y . Co m m a n d i n g Of f i c e r s a r e m a d e
p e r s o n a l l y r e s p o n s i b l e f o r e n s u r i n g t h a t u n i t a d m i n i s t r a t i v e
a r r a n g e m e n t s a r e e f f i c i e n t a n d t h a t u n i t s h o l d s u f f i c i e n t
f o r m s , a n d a r e r e g u l a r l y f o r m a l l y r e m i n d e d o f t h e i r
r e s p o n s i b i l i t i e s .
W e w i l l c o n t i n u e t o e m p l o y t h e s e m e a s u r e s t o
e n c o u r a g e S e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l t o r e g i s t e r a n d t o v o t e , b u t
d o i n g s o i s , o f c o u r s e , a m a t t e r o f p e r s o n a l c h o k e .
S o l d i e r s ( Ne w En t r a n t s )
Mr . Co r b e t t : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e
w h a t f i n a n c i a l a s s i s t a n c e i s a v a i l a b l e t o n e w e n t r a n t
s o l d i e r s w h o a r e t h e m s e l v e s o n i n c o m e s u p p o r t , o r w h o s e
p a r e n t s a r e , t o w a r d s t h e c o s t o f e q u i p m e n t a n d s u p p l i e s
w h i c h t h e y a r e r e q u i r e d t o p u r c h a s e a n d t o m e e t
o b l i g a t o r y i n s u r a n c e c o s t s . [ 6 09 2 1 ]
Mr . D o u g He n d e r s o n [ h o l d i n g a n s w e r 2 7 No v e m b e . r
1 9 9 8 ] : A l l n e w e n t r a n t s o l d i e r s a r e g i v e n a n a d v a n c e o f
p a y ,
e q u i v a l e n t t o o n e d a y s
p a y ,
w h e n t h e y a r e a t t e s t e d
a t a r e c r u i t i n g o f f i c e , r e g a r d l e s s o f w h e t h e r t h e y , o r t h e i r
p a r e n t s , a r e i n r e c e i p t o f i n c o m e s u p p o r t . Th i s a d v a n c e i s
i n t e n d e d t o c o v e r t h e p u r c h a s e o f s m a l l p e r s o n a l i t e m s a
n e w s o l d i e r m a y r e q u i r e . A n y e q u i p m e n t a s o l d i e r n e e d s
t o p e r f o r m h i s o r h e r d u t i e s i s p r o v i d e d b y t h e A r m y .
My
D e p a r t m e n t p l a c e s n o o b l i g a t i o n o n n e w e n t r a n t s
t o t h e A r m y t o t a k e o u t i n s u r a n c e c o v e r , b u t a p p l i c a n t s
a r e a d v i s e d t o i n s u r e t h e i r p e r s o n a l b e l o n g i n g s , a n d a n y
m i l i t a r y e q u i p m e n t t h e y a r e i s s u e d w i t h a g a i n s t l o s s o r
d a m a g e f o r w h i c h t h e h o l d e r w o u l d . b e h e l d r e s p o n s i b l e .
Ne w e n t r a n t s a r e a l s o a d v i s e d t o c o n s i d e r t h e p u r c h a s e o f
p e r s o n a l a c c i d e n t o r l i f e i n s u r a n c e .
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F r e e d o m o f I n f o r m a t i o n
Mr . Ba k e r : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r D e f e n c e :
w h a t a s s e s s m e n t h e h a s m a d e o f t h e c h a n g e s i n
d e p , a r t m e n t a l p r a c t i c e s w h i c h w o u l d b e r e q u i r e d t o c o m p l y
w i t h t h e p l a n n e d F r e e d o m o f I n f o r m a t i o n A c t . [ 6 1 51 2 }
Mr . S p e l l a r : Th e Mi n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e i s a l r e a d y
c o m m i t t e d t o g r e a t e r o p e n n e s s i n i t s w o r k a n d c u r r e n t l y
o p e r a t e s i n a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e Co d e o f P r a c t i c e o n A c c e s s
t o Go v e r n m e n t I n f o r m a t i o n . Th e D e p a r t m e n t s
p o l i c y i s
t h a t s t a f f s h o u l d t a k e a p o s i t i v e a p p r o a c h t o w a r d s t h e
r e l e a s e o f i n f o r m a t i o n . D e t a i l s o f MOD s
p o l i c y a n d
g u i d a n c e t o s t a f f c a n b e f o u n d o n t h e D e p a r t m e n t s i n t e r n e t
s i t e a t h t t p ://w w w . m o d . u k /p o l i c y /o p e n g o v t /i n d e x . h t m .
On c e t h e d e t a i l s o f t h e d r a f t F o ! Bi l l h a v e b e e n f i n a l i s e d ,
i n s t r u c t i o n s , a d v i c e a n d t r a i n i n g w i l l b e a v a i l a b l e f o r s t a f f
i n o r d e r t o e n s u r e t h a t t h e y a r e a b l e t o i m p l e m e n t t h e A c t
a n d t o f o s t e r a n o p e n c u l t u r e .
FROM: THE RT HON DR THE LORD GILBERT
D/MIN(DP}/JWG/6/1
December 1998
Thank you for your letter of 25 November seeking
clarification of the definition of disproportionate cost.
The Ministry of Defence, like every other
Government Department, applies the advisory cost limit to
researching written Parliamentary Questions. This limit is
currently f500 and I attach a
copy
of the announcement from Lord
McIntosh which explains the background to the limit. In summary,
the assessment is based on the value to the taxpayer of Government
Departments publishing such information against the cost it takes
to provide it. This assessment is, ultimately, made
by
the
Minister responsible for answering the question, based on advice
from officials.
Your question concerned the references and titles
of all files held
by
theMOD-whic:h contain information about
unidentified flying objects,
UFOs.
As you will know, the MOD
does not maintain a Department-wide file database and it is simply
not possible to locate all files which might contain such
information without a manual search of over one million currently
held in MOD archives. Even if manpower could be spared from
essential defence tasks to undertake such a search, the cost would
be significant. For example, a highly selective search of the
archives in support of the Official History of the Falklands War
was far in excess of the Parliamentary Question cost limit in
terms of staff effort. In addition, we would need to research
records held
by
individual Service units and establishments to
ensure that a complete list of all references to UFOs had been
compiled. You will know that this is
simply not practicable.
Instead, the list I provided detailed all the files
currently held
by
the MOD focal point for matters relating to
UFOs, the Air Staff Secretariat. I judged that this largely
answered your question, without incurring significant cost for
what would be only marginal value.
I hope this explains the position.
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D/MIN(DP ) /J WG/6/l December 1998
Thank you f or your let t er of 25 November seeking
clarif icat ion of t he def init ion of disproport ionat e cost .
The Minist ry of Def ence, like every ot her
Government Depart ment , applies t he advisory cost limit t o
researching writ t en P arliament ary Quest ions. This limit is
current ly t 500 and I at t ach a
copy of t he announcement f rom Lord
McInt osh which explains t he background t o t he limit . In summary,
t he assessment is based on t he value t o t he
t axpayer of Government
Depart ment s publishing such inf ormat ion against t he cost it t akes
t o provide it . This assessment is, ult imat ely, made
by t he
Minist er responsible f or answering t he quest ion, based on advice
f rom of f icials.
Your quest ion concerned t he ref erences and t it les
of all f iles held
by
t he MOD which cont ain inf ormat ion about
unident if ied f lying object s,
U FOs .
As you will know, t he MOD
does not maint ain a Depart ment - wide f ile dat abase and it is simply
not possible t o locat e all f iles which might cont ain such
inf ormat ion wit hout a manual search of over one million current ly
held in MOD archives. Even if manpower could be spared f rom
essent ial def ence t asks t o undert ake such a search, t he cost would
be signif icant . For example, a highly select ive search of t he
archives in support of t he Of f icial Hist ory of t he Falklands War
was f ar in excess of t he P arliament ary Quest ion cost limit in
t erms of st af f ef f ort . In addit ion, we would need t o research
records held
by
individual Service unit s and est ablishment s t o
ensure t hat a complet e list of all ref erences t o U FOs had been
compiled. You will know t hat t his is simply not pract icable.
Inst ead, t he list I provided det ailed all t he f iles
current ly held
by
t he MOD f ocal point f or mat t ers relat ing t o
U FOs , t he Air St af f Secret ariat . I judged t hat t his largely
answered your quest ion, wit hout incurring signif icant cost f or
what would be only marginal value.
I hope t his explains t he posit ion.
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d ef i n i t i o n o f d i s p ro p o rt i o n a t e co s t .
T h e M i n i s t ry o f Def en ce, l i k e
every o t h er G o vern men t
Dep a rt men t , a p p l i es t h e a d vi s o ry co s t l i mi t t o res ea rch i n g w ri t t en
P a rl i a men t a ry
Q ues t i o n s . T h i s l i mi t i s curren t l y f :500 a n d I a t t a ch a
co p y o f t h e a n n o un cemen t
f ro m L o rd M ci n t o s h w h i ch ex p l a i n s t h e ba ck g ro un d t o t h e l i mi t . I n
s umma ry ,
t h e a s s es s men t i s ba s ed o n t h e va l ue t o t h e t a x p a y er o f G o vern men t
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Dep a rt men t s p ubl i s h i n g s uch i n f o rma t i o n a g a i n s t t h e co s t i t t a k es t o p ro vi d e i t .
T h i s a s s es s men t i s , ul t i ma t el y , ma d e
by
t h e M i n i s t er res p o n s i bl e f o r a n s w eri n g
t h e q ues t i o n , ba s ed o n a d vi ce f ro m o f f i ci a l s .
A s f a r a s y o ur s p eci f i c q ues t i o n i s co n cern ed ,
y o u a s k ed i f w e
co ul d l i s t t h e ref eren ces a n d t i t l es o f a l l o p en a n d cl o s ed f i l es h el d
by
t h e M OD
w h i ch co n t a i n i n f o rma t i o n a bo ut un i d en t i f i ed
f l y i n g o bj ect s , UF Os . A s
y o u w i l l
k n o w , t h e M OD d o es n o t ma i n t a i n a Dep a rt men t -w i d e f i l e d a t a ba s e a n d , a s
s uch , i t i s n o t p o s s i bl e t o l o ca t e a l l f i l es w h i ch mi g h t co n t a i n s uch i n f o rma t i o n
w i t h o ut a ma n ua l s ea rch o f o ver o n e mi l l i o n f i l es curren t l y h el d i n M OD a rch i ves .
E ven i f ma n p o w er co ul d be s p a red f ro m es s en t i a l d ef en ce t a s k s t o un d ert a k e
s uch a s ea rch , t h e co s t w o ul d be s i g n i f i ca n t . F o r ex a mp l e, a
h i g h l y s el ect i ve
s ea rch o f t h e a rch i ves i n s up p o rt o f t h e Of f i ci a l
H i s t o ry o f t h e F a l k l a n d s W a r co s t
mo re t h a n f :5, OOO i n s t a f f ef f o rt . I n a d d i t i o n , w e w o ul d n eed t o res ea rch
reco rd s
h el d
by i n d i vi d ua l S ervi ce un i t s a n d es t a bl i s h men t s t o en s ure t h a t a
co mp l et e
l i s t o f a l l ref eren ces t o UF Os h a d been co mp i l ed . Y o u w i l l k n o w t h a t t h i s i s
s i mp l y n o t p ra ct i ca bl e.
I n s t ea d , t h e l i s t I p ro vi d ed d et a i l ed a l l t h e f i l es
curren t l y h el d
by t h e M OD f o ca l p o i n t f o r a l l ma t t ers rel a t i n g t o
UF Os , t h e A i r S t a f f
S ecret a ri a t ,
w h i ch h o l d s a s ubs t a n t i a l p ro p o rt i o n o f a l l t h e i n f o rma t i o n
curren t l y h el d
by t h e
M OD o n UF Os . I
j ud g e
t h a t t h i s
l a rg el y a n s w ers
y o ur q ues t i o n , w i t h o ut
i n curri n g
s i g n i f i ca n t co s t f o r w h a t w o ul d be
o n l y ma rg i n a l va l ue.
I h o p e t h i s ex p l a i n s t h e p o s i t i o n .
WA 199
Wr i t t e n An s w e r s [ 19 NOVEMBER 1998 ] Wr i t t e n An s w e r s
L o r d G i l b e r t : NATO c o n t i n u e s t o e x a m i n e ho w a
r e q u i r e m e n t f o r The a t r e Ba l l i s t i c Mi s s i l e D e f e n c e f o r
d e p l o y e d f o r c e s c o u l d b e m e t , a n d i s c o n s i d e r i n g t he
c o s t s o f s u c h a r e q u i r e m e n t a n d ho w i t c o u l d b e
f u n d e d . NATOs w o r k ha s c o n s i d e r e d g e n e r a l
s c e n a r i o s r a t he r t ha n p o t e n t i a l t hr e a t s f r o m s p e c i f i c
c o u n t r i e s .
NATO: F o r c e S t r u c t u r e
L o r d K e n n e t a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
Whe t he r i t ha s b e e n a g r e e d i n t he NATO C o u n c i l
t ha t NATOs
Eu r o p e a n m e m b e r s s ho u l d i n f u t u r e
" s hi f t m o r e f o c u s t o s u c h p r i o r i t i e s a s m o b i l i t y ,
d e p l o y a b i l i t y a n d r e i n f o r c e m e n t m i s s i o n s [ t hu s t o ]
b e c o m e b e t t e r e q u i p p e d t o o p e r a t e w i t h U n i t e d
S t a t e s f o r c e s i n a b r o a d e r r a n g e o f c o n t i n g e n c i e s i n
t he y e a r s
a he a d "
( Re p o r t t o t he C o n g r e s s o n t he
En l a r g e m e n t o f t he No r t h At l a n t i c Tr e a t y -
Or g a n i s a t i o n : Ra t i o n a l e , Be n e f i t s , C o s t s a n d
I m p l i c a t i o n s 1997 ) ; a n d i f s o , w ha t t he y u n d e r s t a n d
b y
t hi s r e f e r e n c e t o
" a
b r o a d e r r a n g e o f
c o n t i n g e n c i e s i n t he y e a r s
a he a d " . [ H L 37 48 ]
L o r d G i l b e r t : At t he NATO Mi n i s t e r i a l Me e t i n g
o f t he D e f e n c e P l a n n i n g C o m m i t t e e o n 11 J u n e 1998
Mi n i s t e r s a g r e e d t ha t t he m a i n t e n a n c e a n d
e n ha n c e m e n t o f i n t e r o p e r a b i l t y a r e k e y
e l e m e n t s i n
t he t r a n s f o r m a t i o n o f NATOs f o r c e s t r u c t u r e , a n d o f
t he Al l i a n c e i t s e l f , a s i t p r e p a r e s t o m e e t f u t u r e
c ha l l e n g e s . The D e f e n c e P l a n n i n g C o m m i t t e e
a p p r o v e d r e q u i r e m e n t s t o a l l o w t he Al l i a n c e t o
c a r r y
o u t c o l l e c t i v e d e f e n c e a n d d e t e r r e n c e , a n d c r i s i s
m a n a g e m e n t , i n c l u d i n g p e a c e s u p p o r t o p e r a t i o n s .
Or g a n i s a t i o n f o r S e c u r i t y a n d
C o - o p e r a t i o n i n Eu r o p e
L o r d K e n n e t a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
Whe t he r t he y a r e f u l l y i n f o r m e d
b y
t he U n i t e d S t a t e s ,
a n d b y t he o t he r c o u n t r i e s o f t he s c a l e a n d s c o p e
o f t he i r b i l a t e r a l m i l i t a r y r e l a t i o n s , i n c l u d i n g m i l i t a r y
f u n d i n g , i n t he w ho l e Or g a n i s a t i o n f o r t he S e c u r i t y
a n d C o - o p e r a t i o n i n Eu r o p e a r e a ; a n d , i f n o t , w he t he r
t he y c o n s i d e r t he s i t u a t i o n s a t i s f a c t o r y a s r e g a r d s t he
t r a n s p a r e n c y t ha t NATO b r i n g s t o i t s m e m b e r s
r e l a t i o n s hi p s . [ H L 37 8 4]
L o r d G i l b e r t : H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t ha s a
w i d e r a n g e o f c o n t a c t s w i t h t he U n i t e d S t a t e s a n d
o t he r c o u n t r i e s o n t he s c o p e a n d s c a l e o f b i l a t e r a l
m i l i t a r y r e l a t i o n s hi p s w i t h t he c o u n t r i e s i n t he
Or g a n i s a t i o n f o r S e c u r i t y a n d C o - o p e r a t i o n i n Eu r o p e ,
OS C E, a r e a . The s e c o n t a c t s p r o v i d e t r a n s p a r e n c y a n d
c o n t r i b u t e t o o u r o v e r a l l e f f o r t s t o p r o m o t e s e c u r i t y
a n d s t a b i l i t y i n t he r e g i o n .
NATO: S e c u r i t y o f S e n s i t i v e I n f o r
L o r d H a r d y a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n
Wha t e f f o r t s a r e b e i n g u n d e r t a k e n t o e n s u r e t ha t
t he s e n s i t i v e i n f o r m a t i o n i s k e p t s e c u r e w i t hi n NATO
o p e r a t i o n a l p l a n n i n g ; a n d w he t he r s e c u r i t y ha s b e e n
b r e a c he d i n r e c e n t m o n t hs . [ H L 368 6]
L o r d G i l b e r t : NATO ha s m e c ha n i s m s i n p l a c e t o
e n s u r e t he s e c u r i t y o f s e n s i t i v e i n f o r m a t i o n . H e r
Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t s u p p o r t s t he s e m e c ha n i s m s . An y
b r e a c he s a r e a m a t t e r f o r t he r e l e v a n t NATO a u t ho r i t i e s .
NATO d o e s n o t c o m m e n t o n NATO- p e r s o n n e l s e c u r i t y
i s s u e s . .
0 /
RAF F e l t w e l l : 5 t h S p a c e S u r y e i l l a n c e
S q u a d r o n
L o r d H i l l - No r t o n a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t
F u r t he r t o t he Wr i t t e n An s w e r
b y t he L o r d G i l b e r t
o n 20 Oc t o b e r ( WA 143) , w he t he r t he U n i t e d S t a t e s
Ai r F o r c e 5 t h S p a c e S u r v e i l l a n c e S q u a d r o n b a s e d a t
RAF F e l t w e l l s e a r c he s f o r o r t r a c k s a n y o b j e c t s o t he r
\ t ha n s a t e l l i t e s , s p a c e d e b r i s a n d s p a c e p r o b e s ; a n d , i f
s o , w ha t t he s e o b j e c t s a r e . [ H L 390 8 ]
.
L o r d G i l b e r t : F u r t he r t o t he a n s w e r g i v e n o n
, 20 Oc t o b e r , t he o n l y r o l e o f t he 5 t h S p a c e S u r v e i l l a n c e
/ S q u a d r o n a t RAF F e l t w e l l i s t o d e t e c t , t r a c k a n d i d e n t i f y
t he s t a t u s o f s a t e l l i t e s , s p a c e d e b r i s a n d s p a c e p r o b e s .
H u m a n Ri g ht s Ob l i g a t i o n s : C o m p l i a n c e
L o r d L e s t e r o f H e r n e H i l l a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s
Whe t he r Mi n i s t e r s a n d c i v i l s e r v a n t s a r e i n a
p o s i t i o n t o c o m p l y w i t h t he o b l i g a t i o n s i m p o s e d b y
t he Eu r o p e a n C o n v e n t i o n o n H u m a n Ri g ht s a n d t he
I n t e r n a t i o n a l C o v e n a n t o n C i v i l a n d P o l i t i c a l Ri g ht s ,
ha v i n g r e g a r d t o t he U n i t e d K i n g d o m s r a t i f i c a t i o n s
o f t ho s e i n s t r u m e n t s , t he g u i d a n c e Q u e s t i o n s o f
P r o c e d u r e f o r Mi n i s t e r s a n d t he C i v i l S e r v i c e C o d e .
[ H L 37 68 ]
The Mi n i s t e r o f S t a t e , C a b i n e t Of f i c e ( L o r d
F a l c o n e r o f Tho r o t o n ) : Y e s .
L a t i n Am e r i c a : Ba l a n c e o f D e b t s t o U K
Vi s c o u n t Ex m o u t h a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s
Wha t i s :
( a ) t he t o t a l a m o u n t o w e d t o t he U n i t e d K i n g d o m
b y t he c o u n t r i e s o f L a t i n Am e r i c a ;
( b ) t he a m o u n t o w e d
b y
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( c ) t he a n n u a l r e p a y m e n t s , i n c l u d i n g i n t e r e s t , p a i d
b y e a c h c o u n t r y i n t he r e g i o n . [ H L 38 43]
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2 . T he c o n t e n t s o f a T e m p o r a r y Ja c k e t m u s t b e i n c o r p o r a t e d i n t he R e g i s t e r e d F i l e a t t he e a r l i e s t
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3 . T he m o v e m e n t s o f T e m p o r a r y Ja c k e t s a r e r e c o r d e d b y t he R e g i s t r y . T r a n s i t i s t o b e r e c o r d e d o n t r a n s i t
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( t o b e c o m p l e t e d w he n t he j a c k e t i s i n c o r p o r a t e d i n t he R e g i s t e r e d F i l e )
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DjSec(AS)j12j4
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B parts dealing with Parliamentary business.
D Sec(AS)j64j4
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DjSec(AS)j64j5
DjSec(AS)j64j6
1 part for media issues.
1 part listing answerphone messages.
It is possible that some files held in other MOD headquarters divisions
or establishments may contain papers relating to this topic but these
could only be identified at disproportionate cost.
BACKGROUND
CS(RM) are answering another of Lord Hill-Nortons
PQs (4146) about
UFO
files. Lord Hill-Norton is keen to have all
UFO
files not in
current use, including those less than 30 years old, released to the
Public Record Office.
It is simply not possible to say where all files containing
UFO
information might be held. We know that a number of archived files less
than 30 years old are held
by CS(RM), the MOD records branch,
responsible for reviewing and transferring records selected for
preservation at the PRO. However, in the absence of a Departmental-wide
file database and without knowing the details of all originating
Branches, a manual search of in excess of one million files at the two
main MOD archives would be necessary to locate and list other relevant
titles and reference numbers. Even if staff effort could be diverted
from essential tasks for this
purpose, (and it is difficult to quantify
how much but as an example, a highly selective search of these two
archives in support of the Official History of the Falklands War cost
more than is,OOO in staff effort), we could still not be sure that all
UFO
information had been found; a more detailed search of enclosures
on less obviously titled files would be necessary. It is also the case
that Service Units and establishments might have information on local
records and this would also need to be recorded.
The draft answer therefore explains that there are difficulties in
providing the information requested but, in an effort to be helpful,
lists
UFO
files currently held
by Sec(AS)2.
Wed Ld Nov, 1998 12:55 mailbox standard Page 1
SUBJECT
Ref: 1189
CODES
m- \ TE FROM
18LL1L98 Delivery Report
Report For Ref: 1189
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Delivered: 18/11/98 12:52
Delivered To:
PARLIAMENTARY QUESTIONS
~ ot Delivered To:
Codes
[
R E S T R I C T E D I U N C L A S 8 1 F I E D
R E S T R I C T E D / U N C L A S 8 1 F I E 0
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t
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\ :
Q+T
h \ " \ } e . , \ t . , J \ = t c -
- - . ; >
A full list of file s c ould only be provide d at
disproport ionat e c ost .
wit h in Se c (A S)2, t h e Minist ry of D e fe nc e foc al point for all
mat t e rs re lat ing t o U F O s ,
a numbe r of file s dat ing from 1 985 are
h e ld. Th e file s c ont ain public c orre sponde nc e , sigh t ing re port s
and assoc iat e d pape rs and are re fe re nc e d as follows (t h ose
annot at e d ope n
are c urre nt ly in use ):
REF ERENCE TITLE
PA RT
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/1
U F O s
-
Polic y A
D /Se c (A S)/64/1
U F O s
-
Polic y A
D /Se c (A S)/64/1
U F O s
-
Polic y B
D /se c (A S)/64/1
U F O s
-
Polic y C
D /Se c (A S)/64/1
U F O s
-
polic y D O pe n
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s A
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s B
D /se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s C
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s D
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s E
D /se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s F
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s G
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s H
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s I
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s J
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s K
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s L
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s M
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s N
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2
U F O s
-
Re port s 0
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/2/1
U F O s
-
Re port A
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/5
U F O s
-
Re port s A
D /se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
Sigh t ing Re port s A
D /Se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
Sigh t ing Re port s B
D /Se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
Sigh t ing Re port s C
D /Se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
Sigh t ing Re port s D
D /Se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
sigh t ing Re port s E
D /Se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
Sigh t ing Re port s F
D /Se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
Sigh t ing Re port s G
D /Se c (A S)/64/2
U F O s
-
Sigh t ing Re port s H O pe n
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/6
U F O s
-
A lle ge d
U F O
Inc ide nt
-
8 se pt 1 970 A
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/7
U F O s
-
A lle ge d
U F O
Inc ide nt
-
31 Marc h 1 993 A
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e A
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e B
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e C
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e D
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e E
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
c orre sponde nc e F
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e G
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e H
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e I
D /Se c (A S)/1 2/3
U F O s
-
Corre sponde nc e J
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
Corres pondence K
D/s ec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
Corres pondence L
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
Corres pondence M
D/s ec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
Corres pondence N
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
Corres pondence 0
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
Corres pondence P
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
corres pondence
Q
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
Corres pondence R
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
U F O s
-
corres pondence S
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence A
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence B
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence C
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence D
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence E
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence F
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence G
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence H
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence I
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence J
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence K
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence L
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence M
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence N
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
U F O s
-
P ublic Corres pondence 0 O pen
D/Sec(AS)/12/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary Q ues tions &
P arliamentary E nquiries A
D/Sec(AS)/12/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary E nquiries B
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary E nquiries A
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary E nquiries B
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary E nquiries C
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary E nquiries D
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary E nquiries E
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
U F O s
-
P arliamentary E nquiries F O pen
D/Sec(AS)/64/5
U F O s
-
P res s Cuttings A O pen
D/Sec(AS)/64/6
U F O s
-
Ans werphone M es s ages A O pen
The abs ence of a central databas e of files created
by M O D
H eadquarters and E s tablis hments , precludes identification of any
other files that might contain information on this topic.
Background
Lord Hill-Norton has tabled two other PQs (4144 and 4146) in his
quest for more information about
U F O s .
He is keen to have all
U F O
files not in current use, including those less than 30 years
old, released to the Public Record O ffice. Some 33 files covering
the period 1968-70 are already lodged with the PRO for release at
the 30-year point (PQ
4146 refers).
It is simply not possible to say where all files containing
U F O
information might be held. In addition to the 33 files held at
the Public Record O ffice pending release, we know that a number of
archived files less than 30 years old are held at the MO D Archives
at Hayes. However, in the absence of a Departmental-wide file
database and without knowing the details of all originating
Branches, a manual search of some three million files at Hayes
would be necessary to locate and list the relevant titles and
reference numbers. Even if staff effort could be diverted from
essential tasks for this purpose (likely to take some
[x]
man
hours) we could still not be sure that all
U F O
information had
been found; a more detailed search of enclosures on less obviously
titled files would be necessary. It is also the case that Service
units and establishments might have information on local records
and this would also need to be recorded.
The draft answer therefore explains that there are difficulties in
providing the information requested but, in an effort to be
helpful, lists the files held
by Sec(A~ .
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to:U SofS)
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D/Sec(AS)/12/2
)
D/Sec(AS)/12/2/1
)
D/Sec(AS)/12/5
)
27 parts dealing with alleged sightings.
D/Sec(AS)/12/6
)
DjSec(AS)/12/7
)
D/Sec(AS)/64/2
)
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
)
34 parts dealing with public correspondence.
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
)
D/Sec(AS)/12/4
)
8 parts dealing with Parliamentary business.
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
)
D/Sec(AS)/64/5
1 part for media issues.
D/Sec(AS)/64/6
1 part listing answerphone messages.
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CS(RM) a r e a n swer in g a n o ther o f Lo r d Hill-No r to n s
PQs (4 14 6) a bo u t
UFO
files. Lo r d Hill-No r to n is k een to ha ve a ll
UFO
files n o t in
c u r r en t u se, in c lu d in g tho se less tha n 30 yea r s o ld , r elea sed to the
Pu blic Rec o r d Offic e.
It is simply n o t po ssible to sa y wher e a ll files c o n ta in in g
UFO
in fo r ma tio n mig ht be held . We k n o w tha t a n u mber o f a r c hived files less
tha n 30 yea r s o ld a r e held
by CS(RM), the MOD r ec o r d s br a n c h,
r espo n sible fo r r eviewin g a n d tr a n sfer r in g r ec o r d s selec ted fo r
pr eser va tio n a t the PRO. Ho wever , in the a bsen c e o f a Depa r tmen ta l-wid e
file d a ta ba se a n d witho u t k n o win g the d eta ils o f a ll o r ig in a tin g
Br a n c hes, a ma n u a l sea r c h o f in exc ess o f o n e millio n files a t the two
ma in MOD a r c hives wo u ld be n ec essa r y to lo c a te a n d list o ther r eleva n t
titles a n d r efer en c e n u mber s. Even if sta ff effo r t c o u ld be d iver ted
fr o m essen tia l ta sk s fo r this pu r po se, (a n d it is d iffic u lt to qu a n tify
ho w mu c h bu t a s a n exa mple, a hig hly selec tive sea r c h o f these two
a r c hives in su ppo r t o f the Offic ia l Histo r y o f the Fa lk la n d s Wa r c o st
mo r e tha n is,OOO in sta ff effo r t), we c o u ld still n o t be su r e tha t a ll
UFO
in fo r ma tio n ha d been fo u n d ; a mo r e d eta iled sea r c h o f en c lo su r es
o n less o bvio u sly titled files wo u ld be n ec essa r y. It is a lso the c a se
tha t Ser vic e Un its a n d esta blishmen ts mig ht ha ve in fo r ma tio n o n lo c a l
r ec o r d s a n d this wo u ld a lso n eed to be r ec o r d ed .
The d r a ft a n swer ther efo r e expla in s tha t ther e a r e d iffic u lties in
pr o vid in g the in fo r ma tio n r equ ested bu t, in a n effo r t to be helpfu l,
lists
UFO
files c u r r en tly held
by Sec (AS2.
REFERENCE TITLE PART STATUS
D/SeC(AS)/12/1
UFOs
-
Policy A Closed
D/SeC(AS)j12j2
UFOs
-
Reports A Closed
D/SeC(AS)/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports B Closed
D/Sec(AS)j12/2
UFOs
-
Reports C Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports D Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports E Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports F Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports G Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports H Closed
D/SeC(AS)/12j2
UFOs
-
Reports I Closed
DjSeC(AS)/12j2
UFOs
-
Reports J Closed
D/SeC{AS)/12j2
UFOs
-
Reports K Closed
D/Sec (AS )/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports L Closed
D/SeC(AS)j12/2
UFOs
Reports
-
M Closed
D/Sec(AS)j12/2
UFOs
-
Reports N Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
UFOs
-
Reports 0 Closed
Djsec(AS)j12/2/1
UFOs
-
Rep~ rt, of Sighting,
Rendlesham Forest, Dec 1980 A Closed
D/SeC{AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence A Closed
D/Sec{AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence B Closed
DjSec{AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence C Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence D Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence E Closed
D/Sec(AS)j12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence F Closed
D/Sec(AS)j12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence G Closed
D/Sec{AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence H Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence I Closed
D/SeC{AS)j12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence J Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence K Closed
D/Sec{AS)j12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence L Closed
D/Sec(AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence M Closed
D/Sec{AS)j12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence N Closed
DjSec(AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence 0 Closed
D/Sec(AS)j12j3
UFOs
-
Correspondence P Closed
D/Sec{AS)j12j3
UFOs
-
Correspondence
Q
Closed
D/Sec{AS)j12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence R Closed
D/SeC{AS)/12/3
UFOs
-
Correspondence S Closed
Djsec{AS)/12/4
UFOs
-
PQ s & PEs A Closed
D/SeC{AS)/12j4
UFOs
-
PQ s & PEs B Closed
DjSeC(AS)/12/5
UFOs ~
Close Encounter
Reports,
Alien Entities, Abductions,
etc. A Closed
D/Sec{AS)/12/6
UFOs
-
Alleged UFO Incident
-
Crash
of Lightning F6
-
8 Sept 70 A Closed
D/SeC(AS)/12/7
UFOs
-
Alleged UFO Incident
-
31 M arch 1993 A Closed
D/Sec{AS)/64/1
UFOs
-
Policy A Closed
D/Sec(AS)j64/1
UFOs
-
Policy B Closed
D/Sec(AS)j64j1
UFOs
-
Policy C Closed
DjSec(AS)/64jl
UFOs
-
Policy D Open
D/sec{AS)/64/2
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports A Closed
D/SeC(AS)/64/2
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports B Closed
DjSec(AS)j64j2
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports C Closed
D/SeC(AS)/64j2
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports D Closed
D/Sec(AS)j64j2
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports E Closed
D/Sec
(AS) /64/2
D/Sec(AS)/64/2
D/sec(AS)/64/2
D/SeC(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)j64/3
D!Sec(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
D/SeC(AS)/64/3
D/SeC(AS)/64/3
D/SeC(AS)j64/3
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
D/SeC(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
D/SeC(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)/64/3
D/Sec(AS)j64/4
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
D/Sec(AS)/64/4
D/SeC(AS)/64j4
D/Sec(AS)/64/5
D/Sec(AS)/64/6
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports
UFOs
-
Sighting Reports
UFOs
-
Public Correspondence
UFOs
-
UFOs
, -
UFOs
-
,
UFOs
- .
Public
I .
Correspondence
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
-
UFOs
PQs/PES
UFOs
-
PQs/PES
UFOs
-
PQs/PES
UFOs
-
PQs/PEs
UFOs
-
PQS/PES
UFOs
-
PQS/PEs
UFOs
-
Press Cuttings
UFOs
-
Answerphone Messages
. .
F
G
H
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
H
I
J
K
L
M
N
o
A
B
C
D
E
F
A
A
Closed
Closed
Open
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Open
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Closed
Open
Open
Open
; i l - -
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports
, .
B
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports " " C
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports
, -
D
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports " ,
E
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports . " F
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports " -
G
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports .
H
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports . . . . .
I
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports " J
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports . r K
D/s ec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports . " -
L
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports /
M
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Repo; rts " -
N
/~
D/Sec(AS)/12/2
U F O s
-
Reports
, /
0
( (/
/
.
D/Sec (AS) /12/2/1
U F O s
-
Report$ - ,
/"
A
, O I I : rV
D/Sec(AS)/12/5
U F O s
-
Reports
"
A
D/Sec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
Si ghti ng Reports
~ <
A
D/Sec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
Si ghti ng Reports , ~ B
D/Sec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
Si ghti ng Reports
. e -
C
D/s ec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
Si ghti ng
Reports . /
D
D/s ec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
s i ghti ng Reports /"
E
D/Sec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
Si ghti ng Reports ; -
F
DjSec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
Si ghti ng Reports / G
D/Sec(AS)/64/2
U F O s
-
Si ghti ng
Reports . /
H O pen
D/Sec(AS)/12/6
U F O s
- Al l eged
U F O
I nci dent
. . . . . . .
8 Sept 1970 A
D/s ec(AS)/12/7
U F O s
-
Al l eged
U F O
I nci dent
31 M arch 1993
. /
A
D/s ec (AS)
/12/3, "
U F O s
-
C orres pondence A
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3 U F O s
-
C orres pondence B
D/Sec(AS)/12/3-
U F O s
-
C orres pondence C
D/s ec(AS)/12/3" .
U F O s
-
C orres pondence D
D/s ec (AS)
/12/3,
U F O s
-
C orres pondence E
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3 - U F O s
-
corres pondence F
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3"
U F O s
-
C orres pondence G
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3" ~ U F O s
-
C orres pondence H
D/s ec (AS)
/12/3~
U F O s
-
C orres pondence I
D/Sec(AS)
/12/3 .
U F O s
-
C orres pondence J
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3- - U F O s
-
C orres pondence K
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3"
U F O s
-
corres pondence L
D/s ec(AS)/12/3/
U F O s
-
C orres pondence M
DjSec (AS)
/12/3"
U F O s
-
C orres pondence N
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3 - U F O s
-
C orres pondence 0
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3"
U F O s
-
C orres pondence P
D/Sec (AS)
/12/3- - U F O s
-
C orres pondence
Q
D, I s ec(AS)/12/3/
U F O s
-
C orres pondence R
D/Sec(AS)
/12/3. , - U F O s
-
C orres pondence S
D/Sec(AS)/64/3~
U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence A
D/Sec (AS)
/64/3 "
U F O s
-
P ubl i c corres pondence B
DjSec(AS)/64/3/
U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence C
D/Sec (AS)
/64/3" - U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence D
DjSec(AS)/64/3/
U F O s
-
P ubl i c corres pondence E
D/Sec (AS)
/64/3 - " U F O s
-
P ubl i c corres pondence F
D/s ec (AS)
/64/3~ U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence G
D/Sec (AS)
/64/3 U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence H
DjSec (AS)
/64/3 U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence I
DjSec (AS)
/64/3 " U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence J
D/s ec(AS)/64/3/
U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence K
DjSec(AS)/64/3/
U F O s
-
P ubl i c C orres pondence L
. "
. . .
~ .
D / s e ~ (AS)
/ 6 4 / 3 - UFOs
-
Public Corre s ponde nce M
D / Se c (AS)
/ 6 4 / 3 ~ - UFOs
-
Public Corre s ponde nce N
D / Se c (AS)
/ 6 4 / 3 ff UFOs
-
Public corre s ponde nce 0 Ope n
D / Se c (AS) / 12/ 4
UFOs
-
Parliame ntary Que s tions &
Parliame ntary Enquirie s A
D / Se c(AS)/ 12/ 4
UFOs
-
parliame ntary Que s tions &
Parliame ntary Enquirie s B
D / Se c(AS)/ 6 4 / 4
UFOs
-
parliame ntary Que s tions &
Parliame ntary Enquirie s A
D / s e c(AS)/ 6 4 / 4
UFOs
-
Parliame ntary Enquirie s B
D jSe c(AS)/ 6 4 / 4
UFOs
-
Parliame ntary Enquirie s C
D / Se c(AS)/ 6 4 / 4
UFOs
-
Parliame ntary Enquirie s D
D / Se c(AS)/ 6 4 / 4
UFOs
-
Parliame ntary Enquirie s E
D / s e c(AS)/ 6 4 / 4
UFOs
-
Parliame ntary Enquirie s F Ope n
D / Se c(AS)/ 6 4 / 5
UFOs
-
Pre s s cuttings A
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i n t h i s wa y . Te n t h o u sa n d c o p i e s o f t h e W h i t e P a p e r
we r e c i r c u l a t e d u n d e r e m b a r g o i n a d v a n c e o f i t s
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wh a t a c t i on t h e y a r e t a k i n g t o de a l wi t h t h ose
i m p l i c a t i on s. [ H L3351]
Lor d G i l b e r t : Th e de f e n c e e x p e n di t u r e a n d m i l i t a r y
f or c e s of G r e e c e a n d Tu r k e y a r e t h e r e sp on si b i l i t i e s of
t h e c ou n t r i e s c on c e r n e d. W e su p p or t b ot h c ou n t r i e s i n
t h e i r c om m i t m e n t t o r e sol v e a n y b i l a t e r a l di sa g r e e m e n t s
t h r ou g h di a l og u e , a n d we l c om e t h e NATO S e c r e t a r y -
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M e a su r e s i n t h e Ae g e a n i s t o b e i m p l e m e n t e d i n f u J I .
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Lor d S u de l e y a sk e d H e r M a j e st y s G ov e r n m e n t :
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c on su m e r s a n d f i r m s f r om h a v i n g t o
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i n t e r e st on n a t i on a l de b t b u t a l so i n t e r e st on c or p or a t e
a n d p r i v a t e c r e di t s. [ H L340 5]
Lor d M c I n t osh of H a r i n g e y : Non e . I n di v i du a l s a n d
f r m s a r e r e sp on si b l e f or p a y i n g
t h e i n t e r e st on de b t s
t h e y t a k e ou t , b u t i n t e r e st on t h e n a t i on a l de b t i s b or n e
b y
t h e t a x p a y e r . _
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Vi sc ou n t Br e n t f or d a sk e d H e r M a j e st y s
G ov e r n m e n t :
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17 . 5 p e r c e n t . VAT c u r r e n t l y p l a c e d u p on t h e
r e f u r b i sh m e n t or c on v e r si on of h om e s wh i c h h a v e
b e e n e m p t y f or l on g p e r i ods. [ H L337 2 ]
Lor d M c I n t osh of H a r i n g e y : Th e G ov e r n m e n t s a i m
i s t h a t wi t h i n 10 y e a r s 60 p e r c e n t . of n e w h ou si n g ;
i n c l u di n g c on v e r si on s, wi l l b e b u i l t on p r e v i ou sl y
de v e l op e d si t e s. Al t h ou g h l a n d u se p l a n n i n g i s, a n d wi l l
r e m a i n , t h e m a i n i n st r u m e n t of a c h i e v i n g t h i s ob j e c t i v e ,
t h e G ov e r n m e n t wi l l a l so b e c on si de r i n g a wi de r a n g e
of e c on om i c i n st r u m e n t s wh i c h c ou l d p l a y
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Lor d W a l t on of D e t c h a n t a sk e d H e r
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of
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z e r o- r a t i n g e l e c t r on i c a l l y
p u b l i sh e d m a t e r i a l . [ H L3453]
Lor d M c I n t osh of H a r i n g e y : U n de r EU a g r e e m e n t s,
wh i l e t h e U K m a y r e t a i n t h ose z e r o r a t e s i t a l r e a dy h a s,
i t i s n ot p ossi b l e t o e x t e n d t h e i r sc op e n or t o c r e a t e
n e w on e s.
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Lor d H i g g i n s a sk e d H e r M a j e st y s G ov e r n m e n t :
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b y
t h e Lor d M c I n t osh of
H a r i n g e y on 5 Oc t ob e r r e g a r di n g t h e t a x a t i on of
sa v i n g s ( H . L. D e b . , c o1s. 162 - 164) , t o wh a t e x t e n t
t h e y c on si de r t h e dr a f t Eu r op e a n U n i on di r e c t i v e on
t h a t su b j e c t wi l l de a l wi t h t h e p r ob l e m of t a x e v a si on
r a t h e r t h a n t a x a v oi da n c e . [ H L3434]
Lor d M c I n t osh of H a r i n g e y : Th e dr a f t di r e c t i v e i s
i n t e n de d t o h e l p p r e v e n t i l l e g a l t a x e v a si on - t h a t i s,
f a i l u r e b y
i n di v i du a l s t o de c l a r e i n t e r e st i n c om e r e c e i v e d
f r om a f or e i g n sou r c e . I t i s n ot a i m e d a t l e g a l t a x
a v oi da n c e . M y
r e m a r k s du r i n g t h e de b a t e on 5 Oc t ob e r
we r e e n t i r e l y c on c e r n e d wi t h t a x e v a si on , n ot a v oi da n c e .
Lor d Pe a r son of Ra n n oc h a sk e d H e r M a j e st y s
Fu r t h e r t o t h e An swe r g i v e n b y
Lor d M c I n t osh of
H a r i n g e y t o Lor d H i g g i n s on 5 Oc t ob e r ( H . L. D e b . ,
c o1. 163) , wh e t h e r t h e y c on si de r t h a t t h e Eu r op e a n
Com m i ssi on c on su l t e d a de q u a t e l y wi t h i n t e r e st e d
b odi e s i n t h e Ci t y of Lon don a n d e l se wh e r e b e f or e
p r op osi n g i t s dr a f t di r e c t i v e on t h e t a x a t i on of
sa v i n g s. [ H L3438 ]
Lor d M c I n t osh of H a r i n g e y : Th e p r e c i se e x t e n t of
p r i or c on su l t a t i on u n de r t a k e n
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c l e a r . H owe v e r , i t i s ou r v i e w t h a t a de q u a t e c on su l t a t i on
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t h e Com m i ssi on t o e x t e n d t h e r a n g e a n d sc op e of t h e i r
e x t e r n a l di sc u ssi on s. As I sa i d i n t h e de b a t e on
5 Oc t ob e r , t h e G ov e r n m e n t h a v e a l r e a dy u n de r t a k e n
e x t e n si v e c on su l t a t i on wi t h t h e Ci t y on t h e dr a f t
di r e c t i v e .
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W h e t h e r t h e y wi l l t a k e st e p s t o r e p l a c e
m e a su r e m e n t s of g r oss dom e st i c p r odu c t a n d g r oss
n a t i on a l p r odu c t , b ot h wi t h i n t h e U n i t e d Ki n g dom
a n d i n i n t e r n a t i on a l b odi e s, wi t h m e a su r e m e n t s t h a t
a r e b e i n g de v e l op e d b y t h e Of f i c e f or Na t i on a l
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Wh e t h e r t h e y w i l l l i s t t h e d o c u m e n t r e f e r e n c e s a n d
t i t l e s o f a l l o p e n f i l e s a t t h e P u b l i c Re c o r d Of f i c e t h a t
c o n t a i n i n f o r m a t i o n
a b o u t u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g o b j e c t s .
[ H L3 3 1 4 ]
Th e Lo r d Ch a n c e l l o r
( Lo r d I r v i n e o f La i r g ) : I l i s t
b e l o w t h e d o c u m e n t
r e f e r e n c e s a n d t i t l e s o f a l l o p e n
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v i s i t i n g Br i t a i n ?
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U F O r e p o r t s
AI R 2 / 1 7 5 2 6 1 96 4
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AI R 2 / 1 7 5 2 7 1 96 4 - ] 96 5
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AI R 2 / 1 7 98 2 1 96 5 - 1 96 6
U F O r e p o r t s
AI R 2 / 1 7 98 3 1 96 6
U F O
r e p o r t s ( w i t h p h o t o g r a p h s )
AI R 2 / 1 7 98 4 1 96 6 - { ) 7
U F O r e p o r t s ( w i t h p h o t o g r a p h s )
AI R 1 4 Bo m b e r
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AI R 1 4 / 2 8 0 0 1 94 3
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b y s e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l a t To p c l i f f e
s t a t i o n , Th i r s k , a n d l o c a l p u b l i c .
AI R 2 0 U n r e g i s t e r e d
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AI R 2 0 n 3 90 1 95 2
Re p o r t e d s i g h t i n g s o f U F Os ;
m e m o r a n d u m p r e p a r e d f o r t h e Wa r Of f i c e .
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i n t o u n i d e n t i f i e d
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b e e n t a k e n ; a n d w h a t
r e p o r t s h a v e b e e n m a d e o n t h i s
s u b j e c t . Re p l y b y t h e
S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e ( M r . Wa r d ) .
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p r o v i d e d f o r t h e M i n i s t e r s u s e . Al s o ;
U F O i n c i d e n t a t We s t
F r e u g h i n Wi g t o w n s h i r e i n 1 95 7 ;
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.
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S t a n d a r d ; , p h o t o g r a p h s o f o b j e c t o v e r t h e Ch a n n e l
I s l a n d s f r o m t h e
D a i l y S k e t c h o f 6 Ap r i l 1 95 7 .
AI R 2 0 / 93 2 1 1 95 7
P a r l i a m e n t a r y Q u e s t i o n 1 5 M a y
1 95 7 f r o m M a j o r P a t r i c k Wa l l M P : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y
o f S t a t e f o r Ai r , h o w
m a n y u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g o b j e c t s
h a v e b e e n d e t e c t e d
o v e r G r e a t Br i t a i n t h i s y e a r a s
2 6 LW2 0 7 - P AG I I I
c o m p a r e d w i t h p r e v i o u s y e a r s ; a n d w h e t h e r
p i c k e d u p
o n r a d a r o v e r t h e D o v e r S t r a i t s o n 2 9 Ap r i l
h a s y e t b e e n i d e n t i f i e d . F u r t h e r q u e s t i o n s t o t h e M i n i s t e r
f r o m M r . F r a n k Be s w i c k M P . N o t e s f o r M i n i s t e r o n
r e p o r t e d s i g h t i n g s . Re p l i e s b y
M r . Wa r d . N e w s p a p e r
c l i p p i n g s Ap r i l - M a y 1 95 7 : Th e Ti m e s , N e w s Ch r o n i c l e ,
D a i l y Wo r k e r , D a i l y M i r r o r . D a i l y S k e t c h . D a i l y
Te l e g r a p h , D a i l y Ex p r e s s a n d t h e Ev e n i n g N e w s .
AI R 2 0 / 93 2 2 1 95 7 P a r l i a m e n t a r y Q u e s t i o n 1 5 M a y
1 95 7 f r o m M r . F r a n k Be s w i c k M P : To a s k t h e S e c r e t a r y
o f S t a t e f o r Ai r , w h a t w a s t h e n a t u r e o f t h e a i r c r a f t o r
o t h e r a i r c r a f t s i g h t e d o n t h e r a d a r d e f e n c e s c r e e n s o n
M o n d a y n i g h t a n d w h i c h o c c a s i o n e d t h e d e s p a t c h o f
F i g h t e r Co m m a n d . Re p l y b y
M r . Wa r d . N o t e s f o r
M i n i s t e r s .
AI R 2 0 / 9994 H e a d q u a r t e r s S o u t h e r n S e c t i o n
I n t e l l i g e n c e . Re p o r t s o n Ae r i a l P h e n o m e n a , i n c l u d i n g
" o b s e r v a t i o n o f u n u s u a l a e r i a l p h e n o m e n a a t Ro y a l Ai r
F o r c e V e n t o r o n 2 9 J u l y
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9 D e c e m b e r 1 95 7 : " D e c e m b e r 1 95 7 : D e s c r i p t i o n l a r g e
b r i g h t c r e s c e n t s h a p e d o b j e c t o r c o u l d b e a s p h e r e w i t h
t r a i l s f r o m e d g e s . Tr a v e l l i n g o n a c o u r s e o f 2 90 d e g r e e s
a t a m o d e r a t e s p e e d . S e e m e d t o b e d e s c e n d i n g a n d n o t
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AI R 2 0 / 1 1 8 8 8 1 96 7 S e p t e m b e r
AI R 2 0 / 1 1 8 8 9 ] 96 7 Oc t o b e r ( w i t h p h o t o g r a p h s )
AI R 2 0 / 1 1 8 90 1 96 7 Oc t o b e r ( w i t h m a p s )
AI R 2 0 / 1 1 8 91 1 96 7 N o v e m b e r ( w i t h m a p s )
AI R 2 0 / 1 1 8 92 1 96 7 N o v e m b e r
AI R 2 0 / 1 1 8 93 1 96 7 D e c e m b e r
AI R 2 2 P e r i o d i c a l Re t u r n s , S u m m a r i e s a n d Bu l l e t i n s
AI R 2 2 / 93 1 95 5 Ai r M i n i s t r y S e c r e t I n t e l l i g e n c e
S u m m a r y
M a r c h 1 95 5 . V o l u m e 1 0 , Ar t i c l e N o . 3 o n
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. " .
P REM 1 1 P r i m e M i n i s t e r s Of f i c e : Co r r e s p o n d e n c e
a n d P a p e r s ,
1 95 1 - 1 96 4 .
P REM 1 1 / 8 5 5 1 95 2 P e r s o n a l M i n u t e f r o m t h e P r i m e
M i n i s t e r , M r . Wi n s t o n Ch u r c h i l l t o t h e S e c r e t a r y o f
S t a t e f o r Ai r , Lo r d Ch e s w e l l , d a t e d 2 8 J u l y 1 95 2 .
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d o e s a l l t h i s s t u f f a b o u t f l y i n g s a u c e r s a m o u n t t o ? Wh a t
c a n i t m e a n ? Wh a t i s t h e t r u t h ? Le t m e h a v e a r e p o r t a t
y o u r
c o n v e n i e n c e . " M i n u t e f r o m t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e ,
d a t e d 9 Au g u s t 1 95 2 , d i s m i s s i n g s t o r i e s a b o u t f l y i n g
s a u c e r s .
Lo r d H i l l - N o r t o n a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
Wh e t h e r t h e y w i l l l i s t t h e d o c u m e n t r e f e r e n c e s a n d
t i t l e s o f a l l c l o s e d f i l e s a t t h e P u b l i c Re c o r d Of f i c e
t h a t c o n t a i n i n f o r m a t i o n a b o u t u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g
o b j e c t s . [ H L3 3 1 5 ]
Th e Lo r d Ch a n c e l l o r : I l i s t b e l o w t h e d o c u m e n t
r e f e r e n c e s a n d t i t l e s o f a l l c l o s e d f i l e s i n t h e P u b l i c
Re c o r d Of f i c e k n o w n t o i t s s t a f f t o c o n t a i n i n f o r m a t i o n
a b o u t u n i d e n t i f i e d f l y i n g o b j e c t s . Th e r e m a y b e
i n f o r m a t i o n i n o t h e r c l o s e d f i l e s b u t t h i s c o u l d
b e d i s c o v e r e d o n l y a t d i s p r o p o r t i o n a t e c o s t .
.
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WA 1 0 1
Wr i t t e n An s w e r s [ 1 4 OCTOBER 1 9 9 8 ] W A 1 0 2
AIR 2 Ai r M i n i s t r y : Re g i s t e r e d F i l e s
AIR 2/ 1 8 1 8 3 1 9 6 8 - 1 9 6 9 U n i d e n t i f i e d F J y i n g Ob j e c t s *
AIR 20 U n r e g i s t e r e d P a p e r s
AIR 20 / 1 1 6 1 2 1 9 6 7 - 1 9 6 8 U n i d e n t i f i e d F l y i n g Ob j e c t s
(U F Os )*
AIR 20 / 1 1 8 9 5 1 9 6 8 Ap r i l U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 1 8 9 6 1 9 6 8 M a y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 1 8 9 7 1 9 6 8 J u n e U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 1 8 9 8 1 9 6 8 J u l y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 1 8 9 9 1 9 6 8 Au g u s t
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 1 9 0 0 1 9 6 8 S e p t e m b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 1 9 0 1 1 9 6 8 Oc t o b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 1 9 0 2 1 9 6 8 No ve m b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 5 5 1 9 6 9 J a n u a r y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 5 6 1 9 6 9 F e b r u a r y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 5 7 1 9 6 9 M a r c h U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 5 8 1 9 6 9 Ap r i l
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 5 9 1 9 6 9 M a y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 0 1 9 6 9 J u n e U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 1 1 9 6 9 J u l y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 2 1 9 6 9 Au g u s t U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 3 1 9 6 9 S e p t e m b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 4 1 9 6 9 Oc t o b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 5 1 9 6 9 No ve m b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 6 1 9 6 9 D e c e m b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 20 6 7 1 9 7 0 J a n u a r y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 229 7 1 9 7 0 F e b r u a r y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 229 8 1 9 7 0 M a r c h U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 229 9 1 9 7 0 Ap r i l U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 23 0 0 1 9 7 0 M a y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 23 0 1 1 9 7 0 J u n e U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 23 0 2 1 9 7 0 J u l y
U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 23 0 3 1 9 7 0 Au g u s t U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 23 0 4 1 9 7 0 S e p t e m b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 23 0 5 1 9 7 0 Oc t o b e r U F Os *
AIR 20 / 1 23 0 6 1 9 7 0 No ve m b e r U F Os *
*
= =
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Ba r o n e s s G o u l d o f P o t t e r n e w t o n a s k e d H e r
M a j e s t y s G o ve r n m e n t :
Wh e t h e r t h e y w i l l p u b l i s h t h e r e p o r t o f t h e r e vi e w
o f a s p e c t s o f s u r r o g a c y a r r a n g e m e n t s a n n o u n c e d i n
J u n e 1 9 9 7 . [ H L3 4 1 4 ]
Th e P a r l i a m e n t a r y U n d e r - S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e ,
D e p a r t m e n t o f H e a l t h (Ba r o n e s s H a y m a n ): Th e
G o ve r n m e n t h a ve r e c e i ve d t h e r e p o r t o f t h e r e vi e w
t e a m , c h a i r e d b y P r o f e s s o r M a r g a r e t Br a z i e r , OBE, a n d
t h i s i s b e i n g p u b l i s h e d t o d a y a s Cm 4 0 6 8 . Co p i e s w i ! ]
b e p l a c e d i n t h e Li b r a r y . We i n t e n d t o c o n s u l t f o r m a l l y
o n t h e r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s i n t h e r e p o r t a n d a n
2i LW20 7 - P AG ! / ]
a n n o u n c e m e n t a b o u t t h a t w i l l b e m a d e i n d u e c o u r s e .
We a r e
ve r y
g r a t e f u l t o P r o f e s s o r Br a z i e r a n d h e r
c o l l e a g u e s , P r o f e s s o r s Al a s t a i r Ca m p b e l l a n d S u s a n
G o l o m b o k , f o r t h e i r w o r k .
Na t i o n a l Bl o o d Au t h o r i t y
Lo r d Cl e m e n t - J o n e s a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s
Wh e t h e r a n e w m a n a g e m e n t p l a n h a s b e e n r e c e i ve d
f r o m t h e n e w Ch a i r m a n o f t h e Na t i o n a l Bl o o d
Au t h o r i t y a n d w h e n i t w i l l b e p u b l i s h e d . [ H L3 3 9 0 1
Ba r o n e s s H a y m a n : We h a ve r e c e i ve d t h e
o p e r a t i o n a l p l a n f o r 1 9 9 8 - 9 9 . Co p i e s a r e a va i l a b J e f r o m
t h e Na t i o n a l Bl o o d Au t h o r i t y a n d c o p i e s w i l l b e p l a c e d
i n t h e
Li b r a r y .
Nu r s i n g , M i d w i f e r y a n d H e a l t h V i s i t i n g
S t r a t e g y
Lo r d Cl e m e n t - J o n e s a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s
F o l l o w i n g t h e r e c e n t c o n s u l t a t i o n , w h e n i t i s
a n t i c i p a t e d t h a t t h e D e p a r t m e n t o f H e a l t h w i l l p u b l i s h
i t s Nu r s i n g , M i d w i f e r y a n d H e a l t h V i s i t i n g S t r a t e g y .
[ H L3 3 9 1 ]
Ba r o n e s s H a y m a n : Th e D e p a r t m e n t o f H e a l t h p l a n s
t o p u b l i s h a n e w Nu r s i n g , M i d w i f e r y a n d H e a l t h
V i s i t i n g S t r a t e g y i n t h e n e w y e a r .
CIREA: As y l u m In f o r m a t i o n Ex c h a n g e
Lo r d Le s t e r o f H e r n e H i l l a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s
F u r t h e r t o t h e Wr i t t e n An s w e r
b y t h e Lo r d
Wi l l i a m s o f M o s t y n o n 3 S e p t e m b e r (WA 1 2),
w h e t h e r t h e y w i l l p u b l i s h t h e p r o c e e d i n g s o f t h e
Ce n t r e f o r In f o r m a t i o n , D i s c u s s i o n a n d Ex c h a n g e o n
As y l u m (CIREA).
[ H L3 3 0 3 ]
Th e M i n i s t e r o f S t a t e , H o m e Of f i c e (Lo r d
Wi l l i a m s o f M o s t y n ): Th e o u t c o m e o f p r o c e e d i n g s o f
t h e CIREA
g r o u p
a r e c o n t a i n e d i n Co u n c i l d o c u m e n t s
w h i c h c a n b e a p p l i e d f o r u n d e r t h e Co u n c i l s D e c i s i o n
9 3 / 7 3 1 o n Ac c e s s t o D o c u m e n t s . Ap p l i c a t i o n s s h o u l d b e
m a d e i n w r i t i n g t o t h e S e c r e t a r y - G e n e r a l o f t h e Co u n c i l
o f t h e Eu r o p e a n U n i o n , 1 7 5 Ru e d e l a Lo i , 1 0 4 8
Br u s s e l s . Th e Co u n c i l S e c r e t a r i a t w i l l d e c i d e w h e t h e r
t h e d o c u m e n t s m a y b e d i s c l o s e d , i n a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e
c r i t e r i a l a i d d o w n i n t h e D e c i s i o n . In t h e e ve n t o f a
r e f u s a l , a p p l i c a n t s m a y m a k e a c o n f i r m a t o r y a p p l i c a t i o n
f o r t h e d o c u m e n t t o t h e Co u n c i . l . Th e o f f i c i a l j o u r n a l o f
t h e Eu r o p e a n U n i o n p u b l i s h e d a r e p o r t o f Cl REA
a c t i vi t i e s o n 23 J u n e 1 9 9 7 C. 1 9 1 c o n c e r n i n g t h e p e r i o d
] 9 9 4 t o 1 9 9 6 . Th e G o ve r n m e n t f a vo u r d i s c l o s u r e o f a s
g r e a t a n u m b e r o f d o c u m e n t s a s p o s s i b l e .
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2 . T he c on t e n t s of a T e mp ora ry Ja c k e t mu s t b e i n c orp ora t e d i n t he R e g i s t e re d Fi l e a t t he e a rl i e s t
op p ort u n i t y , a n d t hi s i n c orp ora t i on re c ord e d on a t ra n s i t s l i p or f i l e re c ord s he e t .
3 . T he mov e me n t s of T e mp ora ry Ja c k e t s a re re c ord e d b y
t he R e g i s t ry . T ra n s i t i s t o b e re c ord e d on t ra n s i t
s l i p s a s f or R e g i s t e re d Fi l e s .
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( t o b e c omp l e t e d w he n t he j a c k e t i s i n c orp ora t e d i n t he R e g i s t e re d Fi l e )
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C e rt i f y i n g Of f i c e r. . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . , . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . , . .
A p p oi n t me n t
a n d B ra n c h. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . .
Da t e . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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11. The number of
U F O - rel a t ed l et t ers a nd i t ~ l ep hone ca l l s from
t he p ubl i c t o Sec(AS)2 a l so rose si g ni fi ca n~ y d uri ng 1996. At
. , /
t ha t t i me ca l l ers ha d d i rect a ccess t o
S~
(AS)2 d esk offi cers a nd
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ca l l ers t hey beca me more frequent In
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g host s, a ni ma l mut i l a t i ons et c). jCa l l ers d i d not a ccep t t ha t
/
t here wa s no d efence i nt erest i v t t hei r concerns a nd st a ff effort
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beca me i ncrea si ng l y d i v ert ed t fom core t a sks. In F ebrua ry 1997
t he a nswerp hone wa s i nst a l l ~ ~ i t set s out cl ea rl y t he
"
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, .
messa g e wi t hi n t hi s rem~ t ,
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f
resp ond when more d ef~ nce- rel a t ed i nforma t i on i s requi red . Tha t
sa i d , i t i s our p ol i / ~
t o send a wri t t en resp onse t o a l l ca l l ers
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d i rect l y res~ nsi bl e for t he red uct i on i n t he number of rep ort s
l
recei v ed a s/ t he t ot a l for 1997 shows. It i s ra t her t he ca se t ha t
i
t he l a ck f med i a i nt erest i n t he subject t hi s y ea r ha s ha d t hi s
effect
. / /
Lord Hi l l Nort on d ra ws a t t ent i on t o t he a nswerp hone bei ng
swi t c9
d off out si d e norma l worki ng hours sug g est i ng t he p ubl i c
ha s
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wa y of rep ort i ng wha t t hey mi g ht ha v e seen, but ov erl ooks
t h~ / fa ct t ha t i t wa s nev er t he ca se t ha t t he Sec(AS)2 number wa s
: I
mp nned out of hours.
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7
t , .
Lord Hi l l Nort on cont i nues t o quest i on d eci si ons ma d e some
y ea rs a g o. He d oes not a ccep t t ha t t he Rend l esha m F orest
i nci d ent (i nv ol v i ng t he t hen Dep ut y Ba se Comma nd er of RAF
Bent wa t ersjRAF Wood bri d g e) wa s i nv est i g a t ed sa t i sfa ct or! - 1Y ;
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t ha t d eci si ons ma d e i n t he p a st were rea ched
by
t hose resp onsi bl e
for consi d eri ng t he rel ev a nt ma t eri a l a v a i l a bl e a t t he t i me. It
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woul d not p ossi bl e t o recrea t e t he ci rcumst a nces of wha t wa s seen,
a nd wi t ness recol l ect i ons woul d ha v e bl urred wi t h t he p a ssa g e of
time.
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ab out decis ions made more than 30 years ago is avail ab l e f or
pub l ic s crutiny at the Pub l ic Record Of f ice.
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concl udes that they no l onger have any interes t in
UF O
reports
and rel ated matters . Thos e s eek ing to report a s ighting are
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S UMMA RY
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is narrower than he
cons iders appropriate
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interes t.
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pol icy.
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that
UF O
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that si g hti ng reports have i ncreased si g ni f i cantl y
each year but thi s i s not the case. The f i g ures f or the l ast ten
years are as f ol l ows:
1988 (397);
1989 (258);
1990 (209); 1991 (117);
1992 (14 7);
1993 (258);
1994 (250);
1995 (373); 1996 (609);
1997 (4 25);
1998 to end September (163).
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contai n i nsuf f i ci ent i nf 9r~ ati on to sug g est an event
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nature has occurred. Where th~ re i s suf f i ci ent evi dence to
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answerphone i n Sec(AS)2 wa~ /
del i berate act to restri ct members
of the publ i c f rom mak i n~ / f eports. The machi ne was i nstal l ed
earl y i n 1997 so that d, { sk
of f i cers i n the Branch coul d carry out
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. :i
access (i e evenxng s and week ends) as the Sec(AS)2 desk has never
. . /
been manned
aY these ti mes and any cal l s were have g one
, <
unanswered. / / The answerphone i s now l ef t on conti nuousl y and,
theref ored/ provi des an addi ti onal reporti ng f aci l i ty. Al l cal l ers
l eavi ng " I i hei r
name and address on the answerphone recei ve a
wri tten/
repl y.
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l
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j/ yO U questi on our conf i dence i n the adequate def ence of thi s
c06ntry.
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Admi ral of t he Fl eet The Lord Hi l l N ort on
t . O J
WA 1 3 1
[1 9 O CTO BER 1 998 1 V / r i f l c n An s w e r s
~ : !
Ad v i s o r y Co m m i t t e e o n N o v e l F o o d s a n d P r o c e s s e s a r e
p u b l i s h e d i n t h e An n u a l Re p o r t . A l i s t o f t h e c u r r e n t
m e m b e r s h i p i s a l s o a t t a c h e d t o t h e p r e s s r e l e a s e s
a n n o u n c i n g m e e t i n g s o f t h e c o m m i t t e e . Co p i e s o f a l l t h e s e
d o c u m e n t s a r e a v a i l a b l e i n t h e L i b r a r i e s o f b o t h H o u s e s .
Sa l m o n F i s h i n g
Th e Ea r l o f Sh r e w s b u r y a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s
Wh e t h e r , i n t h e l i g h t o f t h e r e c o m m e n d a t i o n s o f
t h e En v i r o n m e n t Ag e n c y t h a t a l O - y e a r b a n o n t h e
f i s h i n g f o r s a l m o n w i t h r o d a n d l i n e b e i m p o s e d o n
r i v e r s i n En g l a n d a n d Wa l e s , t h e y w i l l t a k e i m m e d i a t e
s t e p s t o c l o s e d o w n t h e N o r t h Ea s t c o a s t d r i f t n e t
f i s h e r i e s .
[H L 3 3 44]
L o r d D o n o u g h u e : Th e En v i r o n m e n t Ag e n c y
h a s n o t
r e c o m m e n d e d a l O - y e a r b a n o n f i s h i n g f o r s a l m o n b y
r o d i n En g l a n d a n d Wa l e s . Th e a g e n c y i s h o w e v e r
c o n s i d e r i n g a r a n g e o f m e a s u r e s t o r e d u c e e x p l o i t a t i o n
o f s p r i n g s a l m o n : t h e s e i n c l u d e p o s t p o n i n g
t h e s t a r t o f
t h e s a l m o n n e t t i n g s e a s o n a n d r e q u i r i n g t h e r e l e a s e o f
a l l s a l m o n c a u g h t b y r o d i n t h e f i r s t h a l f o f t h e y e a r . I t
i s c u r r e n t l y c o n s u l t i n g i t s s t a t u t o r y a d v i s o r y c o m m i t t e e s ,
a n d , i n t h e l i g h t o f t h e a d v i c e i t r e c e i v e s , w i l l d e c i d e
w h e t h e r t o p r o c e e d w i t h f o r m a l p r o p o s a l s .
Sa n d Ee l P o p u l a t i o n : P r o t e c t i o n
Th e Ea r l o f Sh r e w s b u r y a s k e d
Wh a t s t e p s t h e y i n t e n d t o
s a n d e e l p o p u l a t i o n a r o u n d
U n i t e d K i n g d o m .
H e r M a j e s t y s
t a k e t o p r o t e c t t h e
t h e c o a s t s o f t h e
f H L 3 3 45 ]
L o r d D o n o u g h u e : Th e G o v e r n m e n t s e t a n n u a l
r e s t r i c t i o n s o n s a n d e e l f i s h i n g i n t h e i n s h o r e f i s h e r i e s
a r o u n d t h e Sh e t l a n d I s l a n d s a n d We s t e r n I s l e s . I n
a d d i t i o n , t h e y h a v e p r o p o s e d t o t h e Eu r o p e a n
Co m m i s s i o n t h e i n t r o d u c t i o n o f a s e a s o n a l b a n o n s a n d
e e l f i s h i n g o f f t h e N o r t h Se a c o a s t f r o m t h e O r k n e y s
t o H u m b e r s i d e . Th i s w o u l d b e a n i n t e r n a t i o n a l c l o s u r e
i n t r o d u c e d t h r o u g h Eu r o p e a n Co m m u n i t y r u l e s .
L o r d H i l l - N o r t o n a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s
F u r t h e r t o t h e Wr i t t e n An s w e r b y
t h e L o r d G i l b e r t
o n 3 Se p t e m b e r (WA 6 0 ) ,
w h e t h e r a i r p o r t s ,
o b s e r v a t o r i e s , RAF b a s e s a n d p o l i c e s t a t i o n s a r e s t i l l
r e q u i r e d t o f o r w a r d d e t a i l s o f a n y r e p o r t t h e y r e c e i v e
o f a n u n i d e n t i t i e d f l y i n g o b j e c t t o t h e M i n i s t r y o f
D e f e n c e , o r w h e t h e r s u c h a c t i o n i s n o w o n l y
d i s c r e t i o n a r y , f o l l o w i n g t h e Ap r i l 1 997 r e v i e w o f
p r o c e d u r e s . [H U 3 1 3 !
Th e M i n i s t e r o f St a t e , M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e (L o r d
G i l b e r t ) : Th e r e i s n o r e q u i r e m e n t f o r a n y o n e t o s u b m i t
U F O
s i g h t i n g r e p o r t s t o t h e M o D , ~ t h e r t h a n f o r
4~ L W1 0 4- P AG J l 3
m i l i t a r y a i r d e f e n c e p u r p o s e s . H o w e v e r . a
t o t h e d e p a r t m e n t w i l l b e g i v e n t h e a
d e s e r v e , c o m m e n s u r a t e w i t h t h e q u a l i t y o f i
p r o v i d e d .
D e f e n c e D i v e r s i f i c a t i o n
L o r d J u d d a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s G o v e r n m e n t :
Wh e t h e r t h e y h a v e s t u d i e d t h e p a p e r b y I a n S.
G o u d i e o n D e f e n c e D i v e r s i f i c a t i o n p u b l i s h e d
b y t h e
I n t e r n a t i o n a l Se c u r i t y I n f o r m a t i o n Se r v i c e ; w h a t
c o n c l u s i o n s t h e y h a v e d r a w n ; a n d w h a t a c t i o n
t h e y
a r e p r o p o s i n g t o t a k e . [H L 3 3 1 9]
L o r d G i l b e r t : Th e G o v e r n m e n t h a v e c o n s i d e r e d t h e
p a p e r s u b m i t t e d b y
M r . G o u d i e a s p a r t o f t h e
c o n s u l t a t i o n p r o c e s s f o l l o w i n g p u b l i c a t i o n o f t h e G r e e n
P a p e r " D e f e n c e D i v e r s i f i c a t i o n : G e t t i n g t h e m o s t o u t o f
d e f e n c e t e c h n o l o g y " , Cm 3 8 6 1 .
A w i d e r a n g e o f c o m m e n t s w e r e r e c e i v e d a n d t h e
G o v e r n m e n t a r e g r a t e f u l t o a 1 1 t h o s e w h o c o m m e n t e d .
Th e v i e w s r e c e i v e d h a v e , a s f a r a s p o s s i b l e , b e e n t a k e n
i n t o a c c o u n t i n r e a c h i n g c o n c l u s i o n s . Th e s e w i l l b e
p u b J i s h e d i n t h e f o r m o f a Wh i t e P a p e r l a t e r i n t h e
a u t u m n .
l \ l i 1 i t a r y At t a c h m e n t s : Es t o n i a a n d L a t v i a
Th e Ea r l o f Ca r l i s l e a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s
Wh e t h e r t h e y i n t e n d t o a t t a c h , a s m i l i t a r y a d v i s e r s ,
a n o f f i c e r o f t h e r a n k o f L i e u t e n a n t Co l o n e l t o t h e
M i n i s t r i e s o f D e f e n c e o f Es t o n i a a n d L a t v i a a s t h e y
h a v e d o n e t o t h e M i n i s t r y o f D e f e n c e o f L i t h u a n i a .
f H L 3 3 3 4]
L o r d G i l b e r t : We a t t a c h g r e a t i m p o r t a n c e t o d e f e n c e
c o - o p e r a t i o n w i t h t h e Ba l t i c St a t e s a n d c o n t i n u e t o
p r o v i d e m i l i t a r y - r e l a t e d a s s i s t a n c e t o t h e m i n
a c c o r d a n c e w i t h t h e i r p r i o r i t i e s . Th e a t t a c h m e n t o f a
m i l i t a r y o f f i c e r t o t h e L i t h u a n i a n M i n i s t r y o f N a t i o n a l
D e f e n c e (M o D ) w a s t o m e e t a s p e c i f i c L i t h u a n i a n
r e q u i r e m e n t f o r a d v i c e o n m i l i t a r y t r a i n i n g . Al t h o u g h
w e h a v e n o s p e c i f i c p l a n s f o r m i l i t a r y a t t a c h m e n t s
e l s e w h e r e i n t h e r e g i o n a t t h e m o m e n t , w e k e e p o u r
d e f e n c e a s s i s t a n c e p r o g r a m m e s u n d e r r e v i e w ,
c o n s i d e r i n g a l l r e q u e s t s f o r a s s i s t a n c e a s t h e y a r i s e .
N o r t h e r n I r e l a n d : Ab o r t i o n L a w s
L o r d Al t o n o f L i v e r p o o l a s k e d H e r M a j e s t y s
F u r t h e r t o t h e a n s w e r m a d e b y
L o r d D u b s o n
5 O c t o b e r (H . L . D e b . , Co ! . 2 2 8 ) . w h e t h e r g o v e r n m e n t
t i m e w i l l b e m a d e a v a i l a b l e i n t h e H o u s e o f
Co m m o n s f o r a P r i v a t e M e m b e r s Bi l l s e e k i n g t o
e x t e n d t h e a b o r t i o n l a w s t o N o r t h e r n I r e l a n d ; a n d
w h e t h e r t h e y a c c e p t t h e p r i n c i p l e e s t a b l i s h e d b y
J o h n M a j o r M P t h a t t h e e x i s t i n g l a w s w i l l n o t b e
c h a n g e d e i t h e r b y
a g o v e r n m e n t i n i t i a t i v e o r b y
t h e
I : , i
WA
157
2 2 O c t
9 8
12 : 4 3 P . 0 2
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19 9 8 )
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j !
t
a. i m
of
b r i n g i n l i t i n t o e f f e c t at t h e l i e s t av ai l ab l e
O p P O r t u n i t y . Th i s w i l l r e q u i r e p r i m ar y l e g i s l at i on .
N aU on al Ai r
Tr am e $ e n - i c e s L t d .
L or d G l ad w i n ot . CJ e e as k e d H e r M aj e s t y s
~ ~ m m ~ : ,
. . "
Wh e n t h e y e x p e c t t o an n ou n c e p r op os al s f or a
p u b l i c / p r i v at e p ar t e r s b i p f or N at i on al Ai r Tr af f i c
S e r v i c e s
U d . "
"
[ H L 3 50 3 J
L or d Wh i t t y : We h av e t od ay p u b l i s h e d a
c on s u l t at i on
. p ap e r 0 J , l
t h e G ov e r n m e n t s
p r e f e r r e d
op t i on f or 8 p l l b l i c l p r i v ar e p ar t n e r s h i p ( P P P ) f or
N at i on al Ai r Tr af f i c S e r v i c e s L t d .
Th e s af e an d e f f i c i e n t
p r ov i s i on of a. i r t r f i c c on t r ol
s e r v i c e s i $ r i g h t l y , a m at t e r of g r e at p u b l i c i n t e r e s t an d ,
s i n c e t h e P P P w as an n ou n c
,
a d e b at e h as b e g u n on
k e y i s s u e s s u c h as s a. f e t y .
t h e n at i on al i n t e r e s t an d p u b l i c
ac c ou n t ab i l i t y . Th e G ov e r n m e n t I l ow w an t t o l au n c h
. a
s t r U c t u r e d . f u l l an d
op e n
c on ~ u l t at o. n , on t h e s e $ $ u $ s .
Th e c on s u l t at i on d oc u m e n t t h e r e f or e s e t s ou t a w i d e
r an g e of m at t e c s on w h i c h w e ar e l ook i n g f or v i e w s .
S af e t y r e m ai n s ou r t O p p r i or i t y an d w e b e l i e v e t h at t h e .

p r op os e d p ~ p of f e r s t h e
op p or t u n i t y
t o e s t ab l i s h a
s t r u c t u r e w h i c h . w i l l s t r e n g t h e n s af e t y . s at i s f y t h e p u b l i c
i n t e r e s t an d t h e n e t d s of av i at i on u s e r s w h i l e
p r ov i d i n g
f or t h e s ou n d f u t u r e of N at i on al A. i r Tr af f i c S e r v i c e s
L t d . an d t ~ e m p l oy e e s .
We
h op e t h at al l os e w i t h an i m e r e s t i n t i l l s s u b j e c t ,
w h at e v e r t h e i r v i e w s on t h e G ov e m m e n t A
p l " I f e r r e d
op t i on , w i l l t ak e t h e op p or t u m t y
t o r e s p on d t o t h e
c on s u l t at i on d oc u m e n t .
RQad Tr af f i c Re d u c t i on Ac t 19 9 7
V i s c ou n t S i m on as k e d H e r M aj e s t y s G ov e r n m e n t :
Wh at p l an s
t e y ~ v e
t o i m p l e m l ! J 1t t b e Road
Tr af f i c Re d u c t i on : Ac t + 9 9 7. [ H I . 3 4 9 6 1
L or d
Wh i t t y ; I t c l e ar t h at t h e s e t t i n g of r oad t r af f i c
r e d u c t i on t ar g e t s w i l l ~ an i n t e g r al p ar t of t h e p r oc e s s
of d r aw i n g u p l oc ai t r at 1$ p or t s t r at e g t c s . L oc al t r an s p or t
p l an s ar e a c e n t r e p i e c e of t h e G v e m m e n t s
t r an S p or t
p r op os al s an d t
, i s v i t al
t h at . w e g e t i m p l e m e n t at i on
r i g h t . W b av e ) i $ t c n c d t Q t h e L ~ I
G ov e I n l D Cn t
As s oc i at i on an d l oc al au t h or i t y c on c e r n s ab ou t t h e
d i f f i c u l t y of p r od u c i n g r ob l . l s t l oc al t r an s p or t p 1an s b y
J u l y 19 9 9 . We w i l l t h e r e f or e i n v i t e l oc al h i g h w ay
am h or l d e s t o p r od u c e " p r ov I s I on al " f i v e y e ar p l an s b y
J u l y 19 9 9 , oov e fJ t g t h e
l X r i od
2 0 0 0 10 1- 2 0 0 4 10 5. Th e s e
w ou l d b e t h e b as i s f or al l oc at i n g r e s ou r c e s f or 2 0 0 0 10 1
on l y . Au t h or i t i e s w ou l d t h e n r ol l e i r p l an s on
b y
on e
y e ar an d s u b m i t
" f u l l "
p l an s f or 2 0 0 110 2 - 2 0 0 5/ 0 6 i n
J u l y 2 0 0 0 . . w h e u r C1i QU [C: s w ou l d b e al l oc at e d a r os s t h e
p l an p e r i od .
S t at u t or y r e p or t p r od u c e d \ l n d e r t h e p r ov i $
ol l ! l of t h e
Road Tr af f i c Re d u c t i on Ac t 19 9 7 w i l l t h e r e f or e b e
s u b m i t t e d i n J u l y 2 0 0 0 , as p ar t of t h e f i r s t r ou n d of ( u 1I
l oc a1 u : aos p on p l an s . .
We w t U ~ x p e c t
8 m h or t t i e s t o
j 3 L W2 l l 4 AG I ! 4
Wr i t t e n . 4 n s w e r s
s u b m i t
n on - i t I H u t oJ ) " i n t e r i m "
r oad
t r t l i f i c r e d u c t i on
r e p or t S i n J u l y 19 9 9 , as p ar t of t h e
p ( ov i s i on aJ p l an s .
Th e
L on d on
b or ou g h s ar e n ot c ov e r e d
b y t h e Wh i t e
P ~ p e r r e q u i r e m e n t t o
p r od u c e l oc al
t r an s p or t p l at \ $ . b u t
~
b e
s e p ar at e l y r e q u i r e d , t o
p r od u c e l oc al
t m p l f ! m t J t l t atoI t
p t al U " , h . i ! 1 A~ i n
k e e p
g
w i t h t h e
M ay or s
i n t e g r at e d t r an s p or t s t m t e g y f or
L Qn d on . Wt J
ar e t ak i n g t h i s f or w ar d
s e p ar at e l y .
Th e Road Tr af f i c Re d u c t i on
( N at i on al Tar g e t S ) Ac t
19 9 8
r e q u i r e s t h e G ov e r n m e n t t o c on s i d e r t h e s e t t i n g of
.
n at i on at w g e t s . We w i l l e r e f or e
r e q u i r e a
g r e at e r
d e g r e e , . of
s t an d ar d i s at i on f r om l oc al au t h or i t i e s i n t h e
m e as u r e m e n t of e x i s t i n g t r af f i c l e v e l $ an d f or e c a. u s - i n
or d e r t h at . w e c an as s e s s t h e n at i on al i m p l i at i on s . We
b e l i e v e t h i s c an
~ e
d on e
b y b u i l d i n g on t h e d at a
al r e ad y
c ol l e c t e d f or n ~ on al s u r v e y > ! . I t w i l l t ak e S O m e t i m e t o
g e t an as s e s s m e n t f r am e w or k i n p l ac e . Th i s i s . s om e t h i n g
w e w ou 1d , l i k e t o t ak e f Qt w w j oi n t l y w i t h l oc al
a~ t h Qr i te s u n d e r t h e
au s p i c e s of t h e Tr . . n s p or t S t at i s t i c s
,
L i a, i s on , O r ou p . Th e e x i s t i n g d r af t g u i d an c e on t h e Road
Tr af f i c Re d u c t i n Ac t 19 9 7 w i l l b e r e v i s e d i n t h e
l i g h t
of t h i s w or k . Th e G ov e r n m e n t h av e al s o u n d e r t ak e n t h at
t h e y \ \ I
p r od u c e a f i r s t
r e p or t
t o P ar l i am e n t on t h e i s s u e
of . n at l or
aJ . t n t f f i c t ar g e t s b y t h e e n d of 19 9 9 ( w b i c h w i l l
al s o : J ; l e e d
t o
r c : t 1c t t h e v i e w s of t h e Com m i s s i w
f or
I n t e g t at d Tr ~ s p or t . w h e n ap p oi n t e d ) . To ac b i e v e
t r u s ,
t h . e y w

n e e d t o d r aw on e x i s t i n g s ou r c e s of
i n f or m at i on t og e t h e r w i t h an y u s e f u l i n p u t s f r om l oc al
au t h or l t i e 5 f r om t h e i r 19 9 9 p l an s . ac c e p t i n g t h ar at d s
s t ag e t h e m at e r i t d w i l l n ot b e i n a. s t a.d ar d i s e d f or m at
L or d H i l J . , N or t on as k e d H e r M aj e s t y s G ov e r n m e n t :
Wh e t h e r
t h e y w i l l e n s u r e t h at t h e an s w e r i n g
m ac h i n e w h i c h t h e
M i n i s t r y of D e f e n c e u s e s b ot h t o
e x p l ai n i t s p ol i c y on u n oon r i f i e d
f l y i n g
ob j e c t s an d
[ 0 p r ov i d e a
f ac i l i t y f or t h e p u b l l c t o
r e p or t
s i g h t i n g s
i s t u r n e d on at al l t i M e s an d n ot 5w i t c h e d of f ou t s i d e
w or k i n g h ou r s .
( f { L 3 4 0 7]
Th e M I n i s t e r of S t at e . M I n i s t r y of D e t e n t e
( L or d
G U b r t ) : Y e & .
.
l \ oJ e d i c a. l N e g l i g e n c e aai m s
L or d O e m e n t - J oJ 1e $ , AS k e d
H e r
M aj e s t y s
G ov e m m e n t :
Wh at ac t i v i t y t h e D p ar t J U e t 1t of H e al t h i s c U l Te n t l y
e n g ag e d i n t o r e v i e w i t s e x p os u r e t o m e d i c al
n e g l i g e n c e c l ai m s an d i t s p r oc e s s e s an d p r oc e d u r e s
f or d e al i n g w i d l t h e m .
.
[ H L 3 4 ( 0 )
Th e P ar J i am e n t ar y U n d e r - S e ( r e t ar y of S t at e .
D e p ar t m e n t of H e al t h ( Bar on e s s Bay m an ) : O n
2 9
Ap r i l 19 9 8
m y r i g h t h on ou r ab l e f r i e n d t h e
S e c r e t ar y
of S t at e f or H e al t b w r ow t Q a n u m b e r of or g an i s at i o$
r e p r e s e n t i n g p r of e s s i on al l e g al . N at i on al H e al t h S e r v i c e
an d p at i e n t i n t e r e s t s s e e k i n g t h e i r v i e w s on w h at c an b e
d on e t o r e d u c e t h e n u m b e r of i n c i d e n t s w h i c h g i v e , r i s e
WA
2 5
Wr ({en An. rw ers (15 JUL Y 1998)
Wri t / en Ans hers
WA
2 6
~ N A TO:
N ew
Members and Command
p rov i de an ex p l anat i on f or w hat mi g ht hav e
been
s een
S t ru c t u re
as t he MoD i s not res ou rc ed t o
p rov i de
an
i dent i f i c at i on s erv i c e.
Lord
K ennet
as k ed H er Maj es t y s G ov ernment :
Whet her t he new members of N ATO w i l l f i l l s eni or
N ATO
c ommands ;
and. i f s o. w hi c h. [ H L2 4 7 91
Lord
G i l bert : I t i s p l anned t hat t he Cz ec h R ep u bl i c ,
H u ng ary and
P ol and w i l l f i l l p os t s i n t he new N ATO
c ommand
s t ru c t u re. The ex ac t nu mber, s eni ori t y and
l oc at i on
of t hes e has not y et been det ermi ned.
Lord
H i l l - N ort on as k ed H er Maj es t y s G ov ernment :
When
arrang ement s f or di s s emi nat i ng rep ort s of
u ni dent i f i ed
f l y i ng obj ec t s w i t hi n t he
Mi ni s t ry of
Def enc e w ere
p u t i n p l ac e and l as t rev i ew ed; and
w het her
t hey w i l l ens u re t hat al l
ai rp ort s ,
obs erv at ori es . R AF bas es and p ol i c e s t at i ons hav e
ac c u rat e and u p - t o- dat e i ns t ru c t i ons abou t how t o
rec ord det ai l s of u ni dent i f i ed aeri al p henomena
rep ort ed t o t hem. t og et her w i t h i ns t ru c t i ons t o p as s
t hem t o t he
ap p rop ri at e au t hori t i es w i t hi n t he
Mi ni s t ry
of Def enc e; and
.
[ H L2 60 7 }
What f ol l ow - u p ac t i on i s t ak en
by t he Mi ni s t ry of
Def enc e w hen i t rec ei v es a
rep ort of an u ni dent i f i ed
f l y i ng obj ec t ; and w het her c hec k s are rou t i nel y made
t o s ee
w het her s u c h rep ort s c an be c onel at ed
by
radar. .
{H L2 60 9]
Lord G i l bert : The
Mi ni s t ry of Def enc e s i nt eres t i n
rep ort :; (. f
u ni dent i f i ed
f l y i ng obj ec t s i s l i mi t ed t o
es t abl i , hi ng w het her t here i s any ev i denc e t hat . t he
Uni t d K i ng dom s
ai rs p ac e has been p enet rat ed by
hos t i l e or u nau t hori s ed
f orei g n
mi l i t ary ac t i v i t y and
w het her
rep ort i ng p roc edu res are adeq u at e f or t hi s
p u rp o:. . Unl es s t here i s ev i denc e of a p ot ent i al t hreat ,
no at t emp t i s made t o i dent i f y t he p rec i s e nat u re of eac h
rep ort ed i nc i dent .
Arrang ement s w i t hi n t he MoD hav e
been i n p l ac e f or a nu mber of y ears f or di s s emi nat i ng
rep ort s ; t hey w ere l as t rev i ew ed i n Ap ri l 1997 . Where
nec es s ary . rep ort s of u ni dent i f i ed
f l y i ng obj ec t s are
ex ami ned w i t h t he as s i s t anc e of rel ev ant MoD
ex p ert s ,
and t hi s
may i nc l u de radar c onel at i on.
as k ed H er Maj es t y s G ov ernment :
H ow
many rep ort s of u ni dent i f i ed
f l y i ng obj ec t s
w ere not i f i ed t o t he
Mi ni s t ry of Def enc e i n 1996,
1997 and t he f i rs t s i x momhs of 1998; and how many
of t hes e
s i g ht i ng s remai n
u nex p l ai ned. [ H L2 60 8)
Lord G i l bert : The nu mber of
rep ort s rec ei v ed
by t he
Mi ni s t ry of Def enc e of aeri al
ac t i v i t y not i dent i f i abl e t o
t he w i t nes s i s as f ol l ow s :
1996: 60 9
1997 : 4 2 5
1998: 88
(Janu ary - Ju ne)
Unl es s t here i s ev i denc e t o
s u g g es t t hat t he Uni t ed
K i ng dom s
ai rs p ac e has been
c omp romi s ed
by
u nau t hori s ed f orei g n
mi l i t ary ac t i v i t y , w e do not s eek t o
L\ L\ \ U1. P . 4 . (; I / ~
as k ed H er Maj es t y s
G ov ernment
Whet her. i n ev al u at i ng
rep ort s of
u ni dent i f i ed
f l y i ng obj ec t s . t he
Mi ni s t ry of Def enc e w i l l
rou t i nel y
c ons u l t s t af f at t he R oy al G reenw i c h
Obs erv at ory ,
t he
B al l i s t i c Mi s s i l e E arl y Warni ng Cent re at
R AF
Fy l i ndal es and t he
Deep S p ac e Trac i ng
Fac i l i t y
at
R AF Fel t w el l .
[ H L2 6! O)
Lord G i l bert : Thes e or ot her s t af f
may be
c ons u l t ed,
dep endi ng on t he c i rc u ms t anc es .
Lord H i l l - N ort on as k ed H er Maj es t y s
G ov ernment :
Why t he Mi ni s t ry of Def enc e has i ns t al l ed
an
ans w eri ng mac hi ne on t he l i ne u s ed
by members
of
t he p u bl i c t o rep ort u ni dent i f i ed
i l y i ng obj ec t s ; and
w het her t hos e
p eop l e w ho l eav e c ont ac t det ai l s on t he
mac hi ne rec ei v e a f ormal
rep l y .
[ H L2 611]
Lord G i l bert : An ans w eri ng mac hi ne
enabl es
members of t he p u bl i c t o l eav e det ai l s abou t aeri al
ac t i v i t y or s eek f u rt her i nf ormat i on abou t ou r
p ol i c y i n
res p ec t of u ni dent i f i ed
f l y i ng obj ec t s . The mac hi ne
c arri es a mes s ag e t hat s et s ou t t he MoD s
l i mi t ed
i nt eres t i n t he s u bj ec t and ex p l ai ns t hat . i n t he c as e of
rep ort ed
s i g ht i ng s , c al l ers w i l l be c ont ac t e onl y i n t he
ev ent t hat f ol l ow - u p ac t i on i s deemed
ap p rop ri at e.
Lord H i l l - N ort on as k ed H er Maj es t y s G ov ernment :
H ow
many mi l i t ary p ers onnel w i t nes s ed t he
u ni dent i f i ed c raf t t hat ov erf l ew R AP Cos f ord and
R AF
S haw bu ry on 3 1 Marc h 1993 ; and w het her,
w hen t he c raf t has not been i dent i f i ed, s u c h an ev ent
ou g ht t o be c l as s i f i ed as bei ng of no def enc e
s i g ni f i c anc e.
[ H L1612 ]
Lord G i l bert : The
Mi ni s t ry of Def enc e i s aw are of a
s i ng l e
rep ort f rom t w o
mi l i t ary p ers onnel of an al l eg ed
s i g ht i ng i n t he Wes t Mi dl ands on 3 1 Marc h 1993 . The
f ac t s rep ort ed w ere
f u l l y ex ami ned at t he t i me. N o f i rm
c onc l u s i ons w ere draw n t hen abou t t he nat u re of w hat
had been s een. bu t t he ev ent s w ere not j u dg ed t o be of
def enc e s i g ni f i c anc e. The MoD has no reas on t o dou bt
t he j u dg ment s made at t he t i me.
E u rop ean P arl i ament , H ou s e of Commons
and H ou s e of Lords :
Comp arat i v e Cos t s
V i s c ou nt
Tenby as k ed H er Maj es t y s G ov ernment :
What are t he c os t s of mai nt ai ni ng t he E u rop ean
P arl i ament . t he H ou s e of Commons and t he H ou s e of
Lords , i nc l u di ng :
(a) s al ari es . p ens i ons . t rav el l i ng al l ow anc es ,
s ec ret ari al ex p ens es and ot her ex p ens es
f or
Members ;
. , "
NUMBERS OF UNEXPLAINED AERIAL SIGHTINGS REPORTED
TO THE MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
1959
-
22 1981
-
600
1960
-
31 1982
-
250
" "
" "
1961
-
71 1983
-
390
1962
-
46 1984
-
214
1963
-
51 1985
-
177
1964
-
74 1986
-
120
1965
-
56 1987
-
150
1966
-
95 1988
-
397
1967
-
362 1989
-
258
1968
-
280 1990
-
209
1969
-
228 1991
-
117
1970
-
181 1992
-
147
1971
-
379 1993
-
258
1972 201
" "
1994 250
1973
-
233 1995
-
373
1974
-
177 1996
-
609
1975
-
208 1997
-
425
1976
-
200 1998
-
1977
-
435
1978
-
750
1979
-
550
1980
-
350
Figures from before 1959 are not available.
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Mr . Re g i n a l d Bu c k l a n d : Co u r t Do c u me n t s
Lo r d Bu r t o n
a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s
W h e t h e r
t h e y wi l l p l a c e i n t h e Li b r a r y o f t h e H o u s e
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c o p y o f t h e
j u d g me n t d e l i v e r e d a t Ca mb r i d g e
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p a p e r s a n d d o c u me n t s s u b mi t t e d t o t h e c o u r t , i n c a s e
A 9 7 0 0 1 4 , t h e
a p p e a l o f Re g i n a l d Bu c k l a n d v . Th e
Ch i e f Co n s t a b l e
o f Ca mb r i d g e b e f o r e H i s H o n o u r
J u d g e H a wo r t h h e & r d o n 1 5 A u g u s t 1 9 9 7 a g a i n s t t h e
r e f u s a l o f t h e Ch i e f Co n s t a b l e t o v a r v t h e c o n d i t i o n s
o f a f i r e a r ms c e r t i f i c a t e , a n d i n p a r t i c u l a r a l l o t h e r
p a p e r s , d o c u me n t s , d i s c l o s u r e s a n d s u b mi s s i o n s
wh i c h Mr . Ro b e r t G a r d i n e r , Cl e r k t o t h e Co u r t , h a s
f a i l e d t o p r o v i d e u p o n r e q u e s t b y
Lo r d Bu r t o n .
Th e Lo r d Ch a n c e l l o r (Lo r d I r v i n e o f La i r g ) : Th e
Q u e s t i o n c o n c e r n s a ma t t e r wh i c h h a s b e e n a s s i g n e d t o
t h e Co u r t S e r v i c e u n d e r t h e t e r ms o f i t s F r a me wo r k
Do c u me n t . I h a v e t h e r e f o r e a s k e d t h e Ch i e f Ex e c u t i v e
t o r e s p o n d .
Le t t e r t o Lo r d Bu r t o n f r o m t h e Ch e f
Er e c u t i v e o f
t h e
Co u r t S e n " c e , Mr . M. D. H u e b n e r , d a t e d 28 Oc t o b e r
1 9 9 7 .
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Th e Lo r d Ch a n c e l l o r h a s a s k e d me t o r e p l y t o y o u r
Q u e s t i o n a b o u t t h e r e l e a s e o f p a p e r s a n d d o c u me n t s
s u b mi t t e d t o t h e c o u r t i n t h e c a s e o f Re g n a l d Bu c k l a n d
v . Th e Ch
e f Co n s t a b l e o f Ca mb r i d g e .
A
c o p y
o f t h e j u d g me n t wa s p l a c e d i n t h e Li b r a r y o f
t h e H o u s e o n 7 Oc t o b e r . A s t h e r e ma i n i n g d o c u me n t s
a r e t h e p r o p e r t y o f t h e p a r t y wh o f i l e d t h e m, t h e r e i s n o
o b l i g a t i o n o r a u t h o r i t y f o r t h e c o u r t t o d i s c l o s e t h e m.
W i t h Mr . Bu c k l a n d s c o n s e n t , c o p i e s o f c o r r e s p o n d e n c e
b e t we e n h i ms e l f a n d t h e r e s p o n d e n t we r e p r o v i d e d t o
y o u o n 1 5 Oc t o b e r , a n d wi l l t o d a y b e p l a c e d i n t h e
Li b r a r y ,
Ce n t r a l a n d Ea s t e r n Eu r o p e :
l \ l i l i t a r y Tr a i n i n g A s s i s t a n c e
Th e Ea r l o f Ca r l i s l e a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s
H o w ma n y
i n d i v i d u a l s e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l a n d
mi l i t a r y t r a i n i n g t e a ms f r o m t h e Un i t e d Ki n g d o m
A r me d F o r c e s wi l l b e d e p l o y e d t h r o u g h o u t 1 9 9 8 , i n
t h e c o u n t r i e s o f Ce n t r a l a n d Ea s t e r n Eu r o p e wh i c h
we r e f o r me r l y o c c u p i e d b y t h e S o v i e t Un i o n , t o a s s i s t
wi t h t h e t r a i n i n g o f t h e i r A r me d F o r c e s .
Th e Mi n i s t e r o f S t a t e , Mi n i s t r y o f De f e n c e
(Lo r d G i l b e r t ) : Th e Mi n i s t r y o f De f e n c e c u r r e n t l y
e x p e c t s t o d e p l o y
s i x i n d i v i d u a l S e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l a n d
1 0 mi l i t a r y S h o r t Te r m Tr a i n i n g Te a ms t o t h e c o u n t r i e s
o f Ce n t r a l a n d Ea s t e r n Eu r o p e i n 1 9 9 8 . A l l a r e d e p l o y e d
a t t h e s p e c t c r e q u e s t o f t h e c o u n t r i e s c o n c e r n e d , wh o
I I I ; L\ \ : i . ; - ~ j \ c : . !
s e e k t o b e n e f i t f r o m t h e e x p e r t i s e o f t h e Un i t e d
Ki n g d o m s A r me d F o r c e s . Th e a i m o f t h e t r a i n i n g t e a ms
i s t o a d v i s e o n t h e c o n d u c t o f e i t h e r o f t c e r o r
n o n - c o mmi s s i o n e d o f f i c e r t r a i n i n g . Th e i n d i v i d u a l
S e r v i c e p e r s o n n e l , a l l o f f i c e r s , a r e d e p l o y e d t o p r o v i d e
e x p e r t i s e i n s p e c i f i c a r e a s o f d e f e n c e ma n a g e me n t .
Nu c l e a r W e a p o n s A l l e g a t i o n s
Lo r d H i l l - No r t o n a s k e d H e r Ma j e s t y s G o v e r n me n t :
W h e t h e r t h e a l l e g a t i o n s c o n t a i n e d i n t h e r e c e n t l y
p u b l i s h e d b o o k
Le f t a t Ea s t G a t e , t o t h e e f f e c t t h a t
n u c l e a r we a p o n s we r e s t o r e d a t RA F Be n t wa t e r s a n d
RA F W o o d b r i d g e i n v i o l a t i o n o f UK/US t r e a t y
o b l i g a t i o n s a r e t r u e .
Lo r d G i l b e r t : I t h a s a l wa y s b e e n
- t h e
p o l i c y o f t h i s
a n d p r e v i o u s g o v e r n me n t s n e i t h e r t o c o n f i r m n o r t o
d e n y wh e r e n u c l e a r we a p o n s a r e l o c a t e d e i t h e r i n t h e
UK o r e l s e wh e r e , i n t h e p a s t o r a t t h e p r e s e n t t i me . S u c h
i n f o r ma t i o n \ VOU I d b e wi t h h e l d u n d e r e x e mp t i o n 1 o f t h e
Co d e o f P r a c t i c e o n A c c e s s t o G o v e r n me n t I n f o r ma t i o n .
W h e t h e r t h e y a r e a wa r e o f r e p o r t s f r o m t h e
Un i t e d S t a t e s A i r F o r c e p e r s o n n e l t h a t n u c l e a r
, we a p o n s s t o r e d i n t h e W e a p o n s S t o r a g e A r e a a t RA F
W o o d b r i d g e we r e s t r u c k b y l i g h t b e a ms f i r e d f r o m a n
u n i d e n t i f i e d c r a f t s e e n o v e r t h e b a s e i n t h e p e r i o d
25 - 30 De c e mb e r 1 9 8 0 , a n d i f s o , wh a t a c t i o n wa s
s u b s e q u e n t l y t a k e n .
Lo r d G i l b e r t : Th e r e i s n o e v i d e n c e t o s u g g e s t t h a t
t h e Mi n i s t r y o f De f e n c e r e c e i v e d a n y s u c h r e p o r t s .
W h a t i n f o r ma t i o n t h e y h a v e o n t h e s u i c i d e o f
t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s s e c u r i t y p o l i c e ma n f r o m t h e
8 1 s t S e c u r i t y P o l i c e S q u a d r o n wh o t o k h i s l i f e a t
RA F Be n t wa t e r s i n J a n u a r y 1 9 8 1 , a n d wh e t h e r t h e y
wi l l d e t a i l t h e i n v o l v e me n t o f t h e Br i t i s h p o l i c e ,
Co r o n e r s Of t c e , a n d a n y o t h e r a u t h o r i t i e s
c o n c e r n e d .
Lo r d G i l b e r t : Mo D h a s n o i n f o r ma t i o n c o n c e r n i n g
t h e a l l e g e d s u i c i d e . I n v e s t i g a t i o n s i n t o s u c h o c c u r r e n c e s
a r e c a r r i e d o u t b y
t h e US F o r c e s ,
W h a t i n f o r ma t i o n t h e y h a v e o n t h e me d i c a l
p r o b l e ms e x p e r i e n c e d b y
v a r i o u s Un i t e d S t a t e s
A i r F o r c e p e r s o n n e l b a s e d a t RA F Be n t wa t e r s a n d
RA F W o o d b r i d g e , wh i c h s t e mme d f r o m t h e i r
i n v o l v e me n t i n t h e s o - c a l l e d Re n d l e s h a m F o r e s t
i n c i d e n t , i n De c e mb e r 1 9 8 0 .
Lo r d G i l b e r t : I n f o r ma t i o n o n me d i c a l ma t t e r s
r e l a t i n g t o US p e r s o n n e l i s a ma t t e r f o r t h e US
a u t h o r i t i e s .
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BACKGROUND
NOTE:
1. Lord
Hill-Norton
has a long-standing
interest in
"UFOs".
He was a member of the (now
def unct) House of Lords All-Party
"UFO"
Study Group,
and has written f orewords f or two books on
the subject.
He has previously
written to Ministers
supporting
individual
"uf ologists" causes.
2. All f our PQs
are
linked to the alleged
incident at
Rendlesham
Forest in Dec 80. In summary,
on the nights of
27-29 Dec
unusual lights
were seen
by
USAF personnel,
including
the Deputy
Base Commander of RAF Bentwaters,
Lt"Col
Charles Halt,
outside
RAF Woodbridge in Rendlesham
Forest.
Lt Col Halt raised a memo to the RAF Liaison
Of f icer at
Bentwaters (copy
attached
at ANNEX A)
some two weeks- later
which simply
recorded
events as he saw them and made no
recommendation
f or
f urther
action. Nearly
17 years on,
we can
only
conclude
that no
f ollow-up action was deemed necessary in
view of the seeming
lack of evidence that the UK Air Def ence
Region
had been
compromised by
unauthorized f oreign military
activity.
This is the
Departments only
interest in reports
of
"unexplained"
aerial sightings.
3. The
Rendlesham
Forest
incident is regularly
quoted by
the
media and
uf ologists as evidence of
"UFOs" penetrating
the
UK Air
Def ence
Region.
However, as f ar as can be determined
f rom the f iles at the time in question,
nothing
of def ence
concern was judged
to have occurred. No additional
inf ormation
has come to light
over the last 16 ~ years
which
casts doubt over the
conclusions drawn by
the Department
at
the time.
4. Lord
Hill-Norton
tabled two PQs on this subject
in August
(Of f icial
Report
14 Oct 97,
WA 16 9
-
copy
at ANNEX B).
He was
unhappy
with the replies given
and wrote to say
so in
September
(DP3842/97
-
copy
attached at ANNEX C).
Lord
Hill-
Nortons letter
said that he was putting
together
a d9ssier on
this subject
and these
questions ar likely
to be part
of that
work.
5. POs
0876 i/0877i.
We believe Lord
Hill-Norton may
be
trying
to
establish
whether USAF personnel
serving
at the
bases at the time
suf f ered any
mental or physical
side-ef f ects
f ollowing
the alleged
events.
(a)
0876 i
-
MOD has no detailed
inf ormation
concerning
this alleged
suicide.
Under the Visiting
Forces Act,
the
US
Authorities
have the right to investigate
such
occurrences
and a UK coroner cannot
undertake an inquest
in
relation
to a member of the US visiting
f orce unless
directed by
a Secretary
of State. There is no record of
any
such action being
taken in this case.
(b)
0877i
-
MOD has no information on medical matters
relating to US personnel. The US Air Force is unable to
release medical information relating to its personnel
without their specific authority or that of their next of
kin.
6. PO 0878i. Whether or not nuclear weapons were stored at
RAF Bentwaters and/or RAF Woodbridge at the time in question
is not a matter for public discussion. D Nuc Pol advise that
the various Government to Government agreements governing the
presence of US nuclear weapons in the UK do not generally
specify exact locations; this would have been subject to
separate operational agreements at the time. It is the
Departments policy
neither to confirm nor deny the presence
of nuclear weapons at any site either in the past or present
under exemption 1 of the Code of Practice on Access- to
Government Information (ANNEX D). In the time available it
has not been possible to establish whether nuclear weapons
(British or American) were in fact stored at either base. We
understand that the book mentioned
by
Lord Hill- Norton was
written
by Larry Warren (who was at the time serving with the
USAF and allegedly
witnessed the incident).
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( ) ) Wh e t h e r t h e M i n i st r y o f D e f e n c e r e p l i e d t o t h e
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H a l t , wh i c h r e p o r t e d t h e p r e se n c e o f a n u n i d e n t i f i e d
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r a d i a t i o n r e a d i n g s r e p o r t e d b y
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b e c l e a r e d o f a sb e st o s, a n d , i f so , a t wh a t c o st ; wh y
wa s t h e p r e se n c e o f a sb e st o s n o t a sc e r t a i n e d b e f o r e
p l a n s t o m o v e t h e J S CS C t h e r e we r e f i n a l i se d a n d
t h e n c h a n g e d ; a n d wh a t p l a n s d o t h e M i n i st r y o f
D e f e n c e h a v e f o r t h e Ca m b e r l e y si t e o n c e i t h a s b e e n
c l e a r e d o f a sb e st o s; a n d
Wh y , g i v e n t h a t t h e c o n su l t a t i o n d o c u m e n t o n t h e
f u t u r e l o c a t i o n o f t h e J S CS C t h a t wa s i ssu e d i n
J a n u a r y 1 995 d i d n o t a d d r e ss t h e p o ssi b i l i t y o f se t t i n g
t h e c o l l e g e
u p o n a g r e e n f i e l d si t e , t h e r e h a s b e e n n o
c o n su l t a t i o n o n t h e S h r i v e n h a m o p t i o n ; a n d
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a c c o m m o d a t i o n f o r t h e J S CS C u n t i l t h e wo r k o n
S h r i v e n h a m i s c o m p l e t e d , a n d wh a t d a t e i s b e i n g
r e q u i r e d f o r c o m p l e t i o n ; a n d
Wh e t h e r t h e a n t i c i p a t e d o v e r a l l c o st t o t h e t a x p a y e r
o f t h e P FI sc h e m e c u r r e n t l y b e i n g c o n si d e r e d f o r t h e
n e w si t e o f t h e J S CS C wi l J b e d e c l a r e d t o
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a c c o m m o d a t i o n , t h e G r e e n wi c h si t e wo u l d b e a t l e a st
f 2 00 m i l J i o n c h e a p e r t h a n a c c o m m o d a t i o n a t t h e
p r o p o se d g r e e n f i e l d si t e a t S h r i v e n h a m ; a n d wh e t h e r
t h e c o st o f t h e S h r i v e n h a m si t e i s e x p e c t e d t o b e
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h e a l t h i f l e f t u n d i st u r b e d . I t s r e m o v a l wo u l d b e r e q u i r e d
i f b u i l d i n g s we r e t o b e d e m o l i sh e d , wh i c h wa s t h e c a se
wh e n t h e J S CS C wa s t o h a v e b e e n b a se d a t Ca m b e r l e y .
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t o g e t h e r wo u l d c o st n o m o r e t h a n f 8 7 K. Th e p r e se n c e
o f a sb e st o s wa s n o t t h e r e a so n f o r e x p l o r i n g a P FI
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t h e f u t u r e u se o f t h e Ca m b e r l e y si t e , i t i s n o t c l e a r
wh e t h e r a c t i o n wi U b e n e e d e d t o d e a l wi t h t h e a sb e st o s.
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d i d n o t c o n si d e r g r e e n f i e l d si t e s f o t t h e p e r m a n e n t
J S CS C, f o r t h e r e a so n s g i v e n i n p a r a g r a p h 9 o f t h e
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o f t h e U K a i r d e f e n c e r e g i o n . T h e y d i d n o t p e n e t r a t e U K
a i r s p a c e . I n f o r m a t i o n c o v e r i n g t h e p e r i o d f r o m 1 9 7 9 i s
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s y s t e m s ; a n d i f RA F a i r c r a f t w e r e s c r a m b l e d . [ 3 1 8 5]
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a d j a c e n t c o u n t r i e s b e c a u s e n o t h r e a t w a s p e r c e i v e d . T h e r e
i s n o e v i d e n c e o f r a d a r c o n t a c t s w i t h i n t h e U K a i r
d e f e n c e s y s t e m .
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t h e r e a d i n g s ; h o w t h e r a d i a t i o n c o m p a r e d w i t h
b a c k g r o u n d r a d i a t i o n i n t h e a r e a ; a n d i f h e w i l l m a k e
a s t a t e m e n t . [ 29 3 4 J
Mr . So a m e s : T h e r e i s n o r e c o r d o f a n y
o f f i c i a l
a s s e s s m e n t o f t h e r a d i a t i o n r e a d i n g s r e p o r t e d b y
L i e u t e n a n t Co l o n e l H a l t .
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De f e n c e i f t h e Un i t e d S t a t e s G o v e r n m e n t h a v e si n c e 1 9 6 6
r e q u e st e d
t h e Un i t e d K i n g d o m t o p r o v i d e r e a c t o r g r a d e
p l u t o n i u m
f o r t h e p u r p o se
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e x p l o si o n u n d e r t h e p r o v i si o n s o f t h e US -UK m u t u a l
d e f e n c e a g r e e m e n t o n a t o m i c e n e r g y
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M r . Da y i d S h a w: To a sk t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n c e i f h e wi l l m a k e a st a t e m e n t o n t h e i m p a c t o f
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a g a i n st t h e p r e v i o u s 1 2 m o n t h s; a n d i f h e wi l l p u b l i sh
t h e p e r f o r m a n c e i n d i c a t o r s b y
wh i c h h i s De p a r t m e n t
m o n i t o r s t h e i m p a c t a n d t h e st a t i st i c a l r e su l t s o f su c h
m o n i t o r i n g .
[ 3 9 1 41 ]
M r . Ar b u t h n o t : Th e G o v e r n m e n t r e c o g n i se t h e c r u c i a l
r o l e p l a y e d b y
sm a l l f i r m s i n t h e UK e c o n o m y a n d a i m
t o h e l p t h e m b y p r o v i d i n g so u n d e c o n o m i c c o n d i t i o n s-
k e e p i n g i n f l a t i o n a n d i n t e r e st r a t e s l o w; r e d u c i n g
l e g i sl a t i v e a d m i n i st r a t i v e a n d t a x a t i o n b u r d e n s; a n d wh e r e
a p p r o p r i a t e p r o v i d e d i r e c t a ssi st a n c e i n t h e f o r m o f
sp e c i a l i st a d v i c e a n d su p p o r t a n d e a si n g a c c e ss t o f i n a n c e .
M y
De p a r t m e n t su p p o r t s t h e DTl s sm a n b u si n e ss
m e a su r e s a n d i n i t i a t i v e s. I a m t h e M i n i st e r wi t h i n t h i s
De p a r t m e n t f o r sm a l l b u si n e sse s a n d I a t t e n d o r a m
r e p r e se n t e d a t t h e DTI s r e g u l a r m e e t i n g s.
Th e De f e n c e S u p p le r s S e r v i c e a ssi st s c o m p a n i e s,
i n c l u d i n g sm a l l b u si n e sse s. i n m a k i n g c o n t a c t wi t h
a p p r o p r i a t e c o n t r a c t s b r a n c h e s. I t a l so a r r a n g e s f o r d e t a i l s
o f m a n y f o r t h c o m i n g t e n d e r s t o b e p u b l i sh e d i n t h e
f o r t n i g h t l y M OD Co n t r a c t s B u l l e t i n wh i c h i s a v a i l a b l e t o
a n y i n t e r e st e d p a r t y o n su b sc r i p t i o n . Th i s e n a b l e s sm a l l
b u si n e sse s e i t h e r t o se e k t o t e n d e r d i r e c t l y f o r sp e c i f i c
r e q u i r e m e n t s o r , m o r e c o m m o n l y , t o b e c o m e
su b -c o n t r a c t o r s t o l a r g e r c o m p a n i e s.
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o f
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Ab b e y W o o d n e a r B r i st o l e a r l i e r t h i s y e a r , t h e De f e l } . c e
S u p p !
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o f c o m m e r c e a n d DTI s b u si n e ss l i n k s, \ v h o se S o u t h -we st
r e g i o n a l su p p l y n e t wo r k o f f i c e h a s b e c o m e t h e i r n a t i o n a l
f o c a l p o i n t f o r t h e d e f e n c e i n d u st r y . Ot h e r a r e a s o f t h e
c o u n t r y c a n r e a c h
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t o sm a l l b u si n e sse s t e n d s t o b e i n t h e su b -c o n t r a c t o r
se c t o r , i t i s n o t p o ssi b l e t o e st a b l i sh su i t a b l e p e r f o r m a n c e
p a r a m e t e r s a n d t h e r e f o r e n o st a t i st i c s a r e a v a i l a b l e .
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r e l a t i n g t o e v e n t s i n Re o d l e sh a m f o r e st i n De c e m b e r
1 9 8 0 ; wh a t i n t e r v i e ws we r e h e l d ; a n d i f h e wm m a k e a
.
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wh o a sse sse d t h a t t h e e v e n t s a r o u n d RAF
W o o d b r i d g e a n d RAF B e o t wa t e r s i n De c e m b e r 1 9 8 0 ,
wh i c h we r e r e p o r t e d t o h i s De p a r t m e n t b y Li e u t e n a n t
Co l o n e l Ch a r l e s Ha l t we r e o f n o d e f e n c e si g n i f i c a n c e ;
o n wh a t . e v i d e n c e t h e a sse ssm e n t wa s m a d e ; wh a t
a n a l y si s o f e v e n t s wa s c a r r i e d o u t ; a n d i f h e wi l l m a k e
a st a t e m e n t . [ 3 9 249 ]
M I . S o a m e s: Th e r e p o r t wa s a sse sse d
b y
t h e st a f f i n
m y De p a r t m e n t r e sp o n si b l e f o r a i r d e f e n c e m a t t e r s, S i n c e
t h e j u d g m e n t wa s t h a t i t c o n t a i n e d n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e
si g n i f i c a n c e n o f u r t h e r a c t i o n wa s t a k e n .
Un c o r r e l a t e d Ra d a r Tr a c k s ( I n v e st i g a t i o n s)
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d i v e r t e d f r o m t a sk t o i n v e st i g a t e
u n c o r r e l a t e d t a r g e t s p i c k e d u p
o n r a d a r ; a n d i f h e wi l l
m a k e a st a t e m e n t . [ 3 9 21 3 ]
M r . S o a m e s: I n t h e p a st f i v e y e a r s R. A. . F a i r c r a f t h a v e
b e e n sc r a m b l e d o r d i v e r t e d f r o m t a sk o n t wo o c c a si o n s t o
i n t e r c e p t a n d i d e n t i f y u n c o r r e l a t e d r a d a r t r a c k s e n t e r i n g
t h e Un i t e d K i n g d o m a i r d e f e n c e r e g i o n .
Un i d e n t i f i e d Cr a f t
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De f e n c e
( 1 )
wh a t i s h i s De p a r t m e n t s a sse ssm e n t o f t h e
i n c i d e n t t h a t o c c u r r e d o n 5 No v e m b e r 1 9 9 0 wh e n a p a t r o l
o f R. l \ F To r n a d o a i r c r a f t f l y i n g o v e r t h e No r t h se a we r e
o v e r t a k e n a t h i g h sp e e d b y
a n u n i d e n t i f i e d c r a f t ; a n d i f h e
\ v i l l m a k e a st a t e m e n t ; [ 3 9 245 ]
( 2)
i f h e wi l l m a k e a st a t e m e n t o n t h e u n i d e n t i f i e d
f l y i n g o b j e c t si g h t i n g r e p o r t e d t o h i s De p a r t m e n t b y
t h e
m e t e o r o l o g i c a l o f f i c e r a t R. A. F S h a wb u r y i n t h e e a r l y
h o u r s o f 3 1 M a r c h 1 9 9 3 . [ 3 9 246 ]
M r . S o a m e s: Re p o r t s o f si g h t n g s o n t h e se d a t e s a r e
r e c o r d e d o n f i l e a n d we r e e x a m i n e d
b y
st a f f r e sp o n si b l e
f o r a i r d e f e n c e m a t t e r s. No f i r m c o n c l u si o n s we r e d r a wn
a b o u t t h e n a t u r e o f t h e p h e n o m e n a r e p o r t e d b u t t h e e v e n t s
we r e n o t j u d g e d t o b e o f d e f e n c e si g n i f i c a n c e .
M r . Re d m o n d : To a sk t h e S e c r e t a r y o f S t a t e f o r
De f e n c e wh a t a sse ssm e n t h i s De p a r t m e n t m a d e o f t h e
p h o t o g r a p h o f a n u n i d e n t i f i e d c r a f t a t Ca l v i n e o n 4 Au g u st
1 9 9 0 ; wh o r e m o v e d i t f r o m a n o f f i c e i n se c r e t a r i a t ( a i r
st a f t ) 2a ; f o r wh a t r e a so n s; a n d i f h e wi l l m a k e a
st a t e m e n t . ( 3 9 243 ]
M r . S o a m e s: A n u m b e r o f n e g a t i v e s a sso c i a t e d wi t h
t h e si g h t i n g we r e e x a m i n e d
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d e f e n c e m a t t e r s. S i n c e i t wa s j u d g e d t h a t t h e y c o n t a i n e d
n o t h i n g o f d e f e n c e si g n i f i c a n c e t h e n e g a t i v e s we r e n o t
r e t a i n e d a n d we h a v e n o r e c o r d o f a n y p h o t o g r a p h s h a v i n g
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