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* Como os defensores da Teoria da Terra Plana, modismo de depois do ano 1800, afirmam que
a Bíblia, literalmente interpretada com toda coragem, exige, sem sombra de dúvidas, sem
sombra de possibilidade de contestação, que a terra seja um quase- disco, e que todos que
assim não creem são demonistas ou, pelo menos, salvos vergonhosamente fracos e covardes,
vergonhosamente adoradores da falsa ciência, aqui, só estamos interessados em coletar curtas
evidências, enviadas por vários crentes literalistas- normais, nascidos de novo, mostrando que
isso simplesmente não é verdade, isto é, mostrando que a Bíblia perfeitamente permite que a
terra não seja um quase- disco.
Isso será um esforço colaborativo de muitos crentes. Mas devem ser somente uma lista de
resumos curtos e simplificados, com links para artigos mais detalhados.
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(essa tradução de Google está muito imperfeita, rogo que alguém faça as devidas correções e
cole todos os versículos a partir da ACF-2011).
INTRO
Essa é uma crítica às 240 tetas de que o culto dos planetas se utiliza . Este resultado é
uma conseqüência do heresia geocêntrica mais antiga promovido pela astronomia , Pr.
Bouw . Earthers planas expandiram a teoria de Bouw para a heresia da terra plana.
Simplesmente, a Heresia Geocêntrica de Bouw , ou seja , o sol gira em torno de uma
terra estacionária que não se move ou gira . Como a maioria dos cultos, os Flat Earthers
apenas dão múltiplos endereços de escrituras para avaliar suas opiniões com muito
pouca razão '. Tive que incluir laboriosamente os textos nos endereços das escrituras e
condensamos esses textos ao mínimo , tentando preservar seus pontos. Os 2 40 textos
de prova estão organizados em duas dúzias de principais categorias. Eu adicionei
brevemente meus comentários polêmicos aos textos deles. A premissa do culto à Terra
Plana é que a Terra é completamente “ plana ” e não redonda, mas plana, com
possivelmente quatro extremidades curvas. A Terra supostamente tem quatro cantos ou
quartos e está sob um firmamento em forma de cúpula. Como na maioria dos cultos, os
defensores planos confiam na linguagem metafórica, simbólica, figurativa e até poética
para provar suas visões falsas e dogmáticas . Flat Earthers desejam ser ouvidos, mas se
recusam a ouvir qualquer visão oposta que os desafie. Nenhuma das seguintes
240textos à prova de terra plana afirma claramente que a terra é plana. Partidas planas
nos dizem que esses textos devem ser interligados por seu entendimento, a fim de
chegar à verdade da maneira como os interpretam. - Herb Evans
Comentários Preliminares da Terra Plana
Comentário: "Se eu vos disse as coisas terrenas, e vós não credes, como crereis, se vos
disseres das coisas celestiais?" - João 3:12 - Yeshus Ha Machiac (também conhecido
como Jesus Cristo). As escrituras referenciam abaixo que são as palavras de Yeshua (
também conhecido como Jesus)
O Órdem da Criação
1. Terra criada antes do sol: Gênesis 1: 1-19
Gênesis 1:13 E foi a tarde e a manhã do terceiro dia. 14. E a ajuda de Deus , Que haja
luzes no
firmamento do céu para dividir o dia da noite; e sejam eles para sinais e para estações e para
dias e anos: 15 . E sejam eles para lâmpadas no firmamento do céu, para iluminar a terra;
foi assim . 16 E Deus fez duas grandes luzes; a luz maior para governar o dia, e a luz
menor para governar a
noite: ele fez as estrelas também . 17 E Deus os colocou no firmamento do céu para
iluminar a terra,
Naturalmente , não temos objeção a que a Terra seja criada primeiro. Apenas alguém
que acredita no big bang
A teoria objetaria a isso , mas isso não exige uma terra plana . Nós supomos que os
auriculares planos suspeitam que não pode haver dia e noite sem o sol. Mas então a
LUZ e a escuridão estavam no primeiro dia antes que existissem corpos celestes.
Nenhuma terra plana aqui! - Herb Evans
O universo completo
2. O Universo é Completo, nem sempre em expansão; Gênesis 2: 1
Gn 2: 1 Assim os céus e a terra terminado e tudo o anfitrião deles.
Einstein e alguns astrônomos acreditam em um universo em expansão e se oporiam a
essa passagem, mas nós não o fazemos. Nós nunca chegamos lá para dar uma olhada.
Ainda assim, não há terra plana aqui! - Herb Evans
A Terra não pode ser medida
3. Medições da Terra Desconhecido: Jó 38: 4-5, Jó 38:18, J Jeremias 31:37, Provérbios
25: 3
Jó 38: 4, 5 Onde estavas quando eu lancei os fundamentos da terra? declare, se tu
tens entendido. Quem estabeleceu as medidas disso, se é que sabes? ou quem estendeu
o LINHA sobre isso?
Jó 38:18 Viste a largura da terra? declare se tu sabes tudo.
Psa 19: 4 LINHA saiu por toda a terra e suas palavras até o fim do mundo. Neles
pôs um tabernáculo para o sol.
Provérbios 25: 2 , 3 A glória de Deus é ocultar uma coisa, mas a honra dos reis é
buscar um assunto. O céu para a altura e a terra para a profundidade e o coração dos
reis não pesquisável .
31:37 Assim diz o Senhor: Se o céu acima puder ser medido, e os alicerces da terra,
debaixo da terra, também eu rejeitar toda a descendência de Israel, por tudo o que eles
fizeram, diz o Senhor.
Jer 31:39 E a medida LINHA ainda vai sair em frente contra sobre a colina Gareb e
bússola até Goath.
Embora devamos admitir que não podemos responder a essa questão pessoalmente,
mas tampouco os defensores planos podem responder a essas perguntas. Concordamos
que a largura da terra não poderia ser medida quando isso foi escrito . No entanto, se a
terra fosse plana como alegado, poderia ter sido medida então. Ainda assim, a “ linha ”
de medição era flexível e podia medir em torno e sobre as coisas. Desnecessário dizer
que a Terra foi medida em nosso tempo. Ainda assim, o vasto céu não pode ser medido
nem mesmo agora, nem as estrelas podem ser numeradas. Mas os defensores planos
podem nos dar a medida de profundidade de sua terra plana com os oceanos incluídos?
Observe as duas palavras usadas no Salmo 19: 4, “terra” e “mundo”. Veja Strong sobre
isso. Nenhuma terra plana aqui! - Herb Evans
Palavra de Deus
A palavra de Deus é sempre fiel e verdadeira: Jeremias 42: 5, Apocalipse 3:14,
Apocalipse 19:11, Apocalipse 21: 5, Apocalipse 22: 6
Finalmente, um status e ment com a qual posso concordar. Ainda o autor pertence a
um culto e eu sou uma primeira classe herege. O problema aqui é que um culto
dificilmente é fiel e verdadeiro. Quem é o criador de estes 240 à prova de tex ts é o
problema e também aqueles que o papagaio. - Herb Evans
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INTRO
This is critique of the 240 proof teats that the Flat Earther cult uses. This cult is an
outgrowth of the older geocentric heresy promoted by astronomy, professor Bouw. Flat
Earthers have expanded Bouw’s theory into the flat earth heresy. Simply, Bouw’s
Geocentric Heresy, namely, the sun revolves around a stationary earth that does not
move or rotate. Like most cults, Flat Earthers just give multiple scripture addresses to
prove their views with very little rationale’. I have had to laboriously include the texts
into their scripture addresses and have condensed these texts to the bare minimum,
trying to preserve their points. The 240 proof texts are arranged in a couple of dozen
main categories. I briefly added my polemic comments to their texts. The premise of the
Flat earth cult is that the earth is completely “flat” and not round but flat with possibly
four curved ends. Their earth supposedly has four corners or quarters and is under a
glass, dome shaped firmament. As with most cults the flat earthers rely on metaphoric,
symbolic, figurative, and even poetic language to prove their false, dogmatic views. Flat
Earthers wish to be heard but refuse to hear any opposing views that challenges them.
Not one of the following 240 flat earth proof texts clearly states that the earth is flat.
Flat earthers tell us that these texts must be connected together per their understanding
in order to arrive at the truth in the way that they interpret them. – Herb Evans
Flat Earth Preliminary Comments
Flat Earther Comment: "If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how
shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?" - John 3:12 - Yeshus Ha Machiac
(aka Jesus Christ). The scriptures references below that are the words from Yeshua
(aka Jesus).
The Order of Creation
1. Earth Created Before the Sun: Genesis 1:1-19
Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. 14. And God said,
Let there be lights in the
firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and
for seasons, and for
days, and years: 15. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give
light upon the earth: and
it was so. 16. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the
lesser light to rule the
night: he made the stars also. 17. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to
give light upon the earth,
Of course, we have no objection to the earth being created first. Only someone who
believes in the big bang
theory would object to that, but that does not demand a flat earth. We suppose the Flat
earthers suspect that there can be no day and night without the sun. But then LIGHT and
darkness were on the first day before heavenly bodies existed. No flat earth here! –
Herb Evans
The complete universe
2. Universe is Complete, not ever expanding; Genesis 2:1
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Einstein and some astronomers believe in an expanding universe, and would object to
this passage, but we don’t. We never got up there to check it out. Still, no flat earth
here! – Herb Evans
The Earth Can not be Measured
3. Earth Measurements Unknown: Job 38:4-5, Job 38:18, J Jeremiah 31:37, Proverbs
25:3
Job 38:4, 5 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if
thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who
hath stretched the LINE upon it?
Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
Psa 19:4 Their LINE is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of
the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Pro 25:2, 3 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to
search out a matter. The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of
kings IS unsearchable.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the
foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Jer 31:39 And the measuring LINE shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill
Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.
While we must admit that we cannot answer these question personally, but neither can
the flat earthers answer these questions. We agree that the breadth of the earth could not
be measured when this was written. However if the earth were flat as claimed, could it
have been measured then. Still the measuring “line” was flexible and could measure
around and over things. Needless to say, the earth has been measured in our time. Sill,
the vast heaven cannot be measured even now, nor can the stars be numbered. But can
the flat earthers give us the depth measurement of their flat earth with the oceans
included? Notice the two words used in Psalm 19:4, “earth” and “world.” See Strong’s
on this. No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
The Earth is not a Sphere but a Disc.
4. Earth is a Disk/Circle, not a ball: Isaiah 40:22, Proverbs 8:27, Job 38:13-14
Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof
are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens AS a curtain, and spreadeth them
out AS a tent to dwell in:
Pro 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the
face of the depth:
Job 38:13, 14 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might
be shaken out of it? It
is TURNED as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
Here we have highly figurative or metaphoric language. The text does not say a ball, a
sphere, or a disk. So, both sides of the issue must interpret what the circle of the earth
means, including the part where God sits on it, in the light of earth being God’s
footstool and not his chair. Unfortunately for flat earthers, Job 38:13, 14 indicates an
earth that is turned like the clay against the potter’s seal (which inscribes something on
the clay) as the clay rotates like the earth. Moreover, setting a COMPASS on the deep
indicates roundness rather than straightness. If the earh is a disk, it is unusually thick,
considering the depth of gthe ocean in some places. Also, it contradicts the Flat earther
claim\ that the earth is rectanguler wigth four corners, something verfy unusual for a
circle or a disk; No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
The Earth is not Curved
5. Earth Measured with a Line, not a curve: Job 38:4-5
Job 38:4, 5 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou
hast understanding. 5. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath
stretched the line upon it?
None of the words, in the English or Greek, namely “Foundations, measures, line, or
stretch” mean or imply that the earth is not round or curved. In fact, the word
“stretched” has the implication of a flexible “line” (or rule) that is “bent” in Hebrew.
The line would of necessity be bent when it goes over the mountains and hills. No flat
earth here! – Herb Evans
The Earth is Flat
6. Extremely Large Area of Land is FLAT, no curvature: Ez. 45:1
Flat Earth NOTE: Ezekiel 45:1 represents a length of approximately 52 miles and a
width of approximately 20 miles without any CURVATURE, only FLAT.
Ez 45:1 Moreover, when ye shall divide BY LOT the land for inheritance, ye shall
offer an oblation unto the LORD, five and twenty thousand reeds, and the breadth shall
be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all the borders thereof round about.
Neither the length nor the breadth of this piece of land with borders implies flatness or
lack of curvature. No one then or now would notice any curvature due to the small
sampling of the whole earth as one walks off this land. Still, there is the problem of the
mountains and hills not being flat. No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
Earth is a Flat Plain
7. A "PLAIN" can't exist on a ball, only a "FLAT/LEVEL" surface, of which, Yeshua
(aka Jesus) stood upon: Luke 6:17
Luke 6:17 And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of
his disciples, and a great multitude of people . . .
Since the flat-earthier position is redundant, we must be redundant. Of course a
“plain” is flat and level as opposed to hills and mountains. This does not demand that
the whole earth is a “plain.” Plains can and do exist on a spherical earth as do hills and
mountains and valleys. Distorting the English language does not establish the flat-
earther’s heresy. The English word does indicate flatness without trees or mountains.
The two underlying Greek words indicate only a level space (occupied here). Neither
the English nor the Greek gives us a whole earth that is flat or an earth free from
mountains or hills. No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
Overemphasis of the Word Straight on Land
8. Paths are Straight, not curved: 1 Samuel 6:12, Psalm 5:8, Psalm 27:11, Isaiah 40:3,
Jeremiah 31:9, Matthew 3:3, Mark 1:3, Luke 3:4, John 1:23, Acts 16:11, Acts 21:1,
Hebrews 12:13
Psalm 5:8 Lead me, O LORD . . . make thy way straight before my face.
1 Sam 6:12 And the kine took the straight way to the way of Bethshemesh, and went along
the highway . . .
Psalm 27:11 Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine
enemies.
Isa 40:3 . . . Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our
God.
Jer 31:9 . . . I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they
shall not stumble . . .
Matt 3:3 . . . Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Mark 1:3 . . . make his paths straight.
Luke 3:4 . . . make his paths straight.
John 1:23 . . . Make straight the way of the Lord . . .
Acts 16:11 Therefore loosing from Troas, we came with a straight course to Samothracia . . .
Acts 21:1 And it came to pass . . . we came with a straight course unto Coos . . .
Heb 12:13 And make straight paths for your feet . . .
It is amazing how Flat Earthers can manipulate nuances of language to force their
views. Our Concordance Clarence does not get the job done, but he does manage to find
a repetitive overemphasis of the word straight and straight paths to imagine a flat earth.
Such manipulation of words is disturbing. Of course, this gets them a large quantity of
proof texts. What should these folks have been told, “Walk a curved path to get
somewhere?” Rivers are not always straight. The language used here is how folks
understood straight then and now to mean without any idea of scientific reality. No flat
earth here! – Herb Evans
Flat-Earther Mistake on the Water
8. Waters are STRAIT, not curved: Job 37:10
Job 37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is
STRAITENED. This is a most ridiculous of all the Flat-Earther “straight” proof texts in
that the word “STRAITENED” is a completely different word with an entirely different
meaning. This passage tells us that the waters were crowded or narrowed. The passage,
Job 37:10, has nothing to do with the word straight versus curved. It shows the
desperation of a cult that is trying to prove its heresy. No Flat Earth here! – Herb Evans
Earth Does Not Move
9. Earthquakes shake Earth, and it does not move: 2 Samuel 22:8, Isaiah 13:13,
Revelation 6:12-13
2 Sam 22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved
and shook. . .
Isa 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her
place . . .
Rev 6:12, 13, 14 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a
great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became
as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her
untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll
when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their
places.
Of course, these proof-texts do not prove that the earth does not move. Quite the
contrary, Isaiah 13:13 proves that the earth will one day be removed out of its place
whatever that place is at the time. This disproves the view that the earth cannot be
moved and proves that God can move it. No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
Earth cannot be Moved
10. Earth is fixed and immovable: 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 33:9, Psalm 93:1, Psalm
96:10, Psalm 104:5, Psalm 36:10, Psalm 119:89-90, Isaiah 14:7, Isaiah 45:18, Zechariah
1:11, 2 Peter 3:5
Psalm 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God . . .
1 Chron 16:30 Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it
be not moved.
Psa 33:8, 9 . . . For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
Psa 93:1 . . .the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
Psa 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for
ever.
Psa 119:89, 90 . . . thou hast established the earth, and it abideth.
Isa 14:7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.
Isa 45:18 God . . . created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited.
Zec 1:11 . . . behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest.
2 Pet 3:5, 6 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the
heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed . . .
First of all, God tells people to fear and be still and not the earth to be still and know
that I am God. The
Physical earth does not fear, sing, or know anything. Second, 1 Chron 16::30 says that
the world and its
inhabitants shall be stable under normal circumstances and not be moved. Psalm 33:8, 9
clearly is talking about
the earth’s inhabitants and not its physical appearance. Psalm 93: again says “world”
and not earth. Psalm 104:5
talks about the foundations as not being pillars but rather as a dwelling place, and
translates the word AS earth
but elsewhere translates it AS “world” as we have noted. In Psalm 119:90 the word is
translated “earth.” Flat
earthers imagine the words establish and stable and rest to mean it to be fixed with no
rotation and no
movement around the sun. We have already quoted the flat-earther proof-text that
demonstrates the Earth like
clay turning against the potter’s seal, which inscribes things on the clay as it turns on the
potter’s wheel. During
the flood, we wonder how the flat earth stood out of the water? Or how the water did
not spill off the ends of the
earth? No flat earth here!
Job 38:13, 14 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might
be shaken out of it? It
is TURNED as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. – Herb Evans
Earth Sets on Physical Pillars
11. Earth has Pillars, and hangs on nothing: 1 Samuel 2:8, Job 9:6, Job 26:7, Psalm
75:3
1 Sam 2:8 . . . for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon
them.
Job 9:6 Which shaketh the EARTH OUT OF HER PLACE and the pillars thereof tremble.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon
nothing.
Psa 75:3 The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved: I bear up the pillars of it.
Selah.
While we would agree that the earth (elsewhere translated world) hangeth upon
nothing) we call it space.
Therefore if it is hanging upon nothing, it needs no physical pillars to support it.
Obviously the earth’s inhabitants are included in this world; Since the Hebrew for
pillars is poetically a stand, which we take to mean the earth’s axis on the potter’s stand.
So much for speculation! How do the heavens shake, and what supports heaven’s
foundations. By the Lord Jesus all things consist) Col. 1:17). The church is the pillar
and ground of the truth or the support and basis of the truth in First Timothy 3:15. No
flat earth here! -- Herb Evans
Earth Has a Face
12. Earth has a Face (a geometrical flat surface): Genesis 1:29, Genesis 4:14, Genesis 6:1,
Genesis 6:7, Genesis 7:3, Genesis 7:4, Genesis 8:9, Genesis 11:8, Genesis 11:9, Genesis 41:56,
Exodus 32:12, Exodus 33:16, Numbers 12:3, Deuteronomy 6:15, Deuteronomy 7:6, 1 Samuel
20:15, 1 Kings 13:34, Job 37:12, Psalm 104:30, Jeremiah 25:26, Jeremiah 28:16, Ezekiel 34:6,
Ezekiel 38:20, Ezekiel 39:14, Amos 9:6, Amos 9:8, Zechariah 5:3, Luke 12:56
Gen 1:29 . . . Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all
the earth . . .
Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth . . .
Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the
earth . . .
Gen 7:3, 4 Of fowls also of the air by sevens . . . to keep seed alive upon the face of all the
earth. 4. For . . . every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the
earth.
Gen 8:9 . . . the waters were on the face of the whole earth . . .
Gen 11:8, 9 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth . . .
9. . . . from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Gen 41:56 And the famine was over all the face of the earth:
Deut 6:15 the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled . . . and destroy thee from off the face
of the earth.
Deut 7:6 . . . God hath chosen thee . . . above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
1 Sam 20:15 . . . the LORD hath cut off the enemies of David every one from the face of the
earth.
1 Kings 13:34 . . . the house of Jeroboam . . . to destroy it from off the face of the earth.
Job 37:12 . . . that they may do whatsoever he commandeth them upon the face of the world
in the earth.
Psa 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the
earth.
Jer 25:26 . . . all the kingdoms of the world, which are upon the face of the earth . . .
Jer 28:16 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the
earth
Eze 34:6 . . . my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or
seek after them.
Eze 38:20 . . . all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence . . .
Eze 39:14 And they shall . . . bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the
earth . . .
Amos 9:6, 8 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the
earth; he t . . . poureth them out upon the face of the earth . . . 8. Behold . . . I will destroy it
from off the face of the earth . . .
Zec 5:3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole
earth:
Luke 12:56 . . . ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not
discern this time?
The word “face” is defined by flat-earthers as a geometrically flat surface (the key
word). Still, the definition is faulty in that the word is used in the Hebrew and the
English as the face of the observed ground and as the observed faces of humans which
are not flat and even the face of God, who does not have a face. Still, we regard the term
as used to mean the surface of a thing having no certain scientific meaning. Obviously,
the conclusion to the flat earther view is that people were driven off and cut off from the
ends of their so called flat rectangular earth. How is that possible? Yet, some shall be
buried on the face of the earth. Shall we forget that the surface of the earth is not all flat
if we consider the mountains and hills and valley? No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
The Oceans Have a Face
13. Waters have a Face (a geometrical flat surface): Genesis 1:2, Genesis 7:18, Job
38:30
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of
the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 7:18 . . . the ark went upon the face of the waters.
Job 38:30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.
Again, the reasonable meaning of the word “face” seems to be "surface.” Of course, we
might also consider that Genesis 1:2 states that the earth was then without form.
Needless to say flatness is not indicated by these proof texts. Even the ground or soil
has a face (Gen. 2:6). No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
The Abysaal Plains?
14. In reference to Genesis 1:2, have you ever heard of the abyssal plains? Abyssal
plains cover more than 50% of earth. Also they are some of the flattest smoothest areas
on earth. It is impossible for the abyssal plains to cover more than 50% of the earth and
for the earth to be a sphere; perhaps, the earth is "flat?"
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of
the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The flat earther’s “perhaps, the earth is flat” is most significant due to the flatness of
the ocean floor, namely the “abysaal plains.” Well, touché’! Perhaps the earth is not
flat but rather round. All that we see here is that the earth was without form. Needless to
say, there is no such word or phrase in the Bible. No flat earth here! – Herb Evans
The Sky Has a Face
15. Sky has a Face (a geometrical flat surface): Matt 16:3, Luke 12:56 (2 dimensional
flat earthers - HE)
Matt 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and
lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the
signs of the times?
Luke 12:56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how
is it that ye do not discern this time?
Again, the reasonable meaning of the word “face” seems to be a”surface.” Needless to
say, flatness of the earth is not indicated by any of these proof texts. What we have here
is a failure to communicate. There is not one verse produced by the flat-earthers that
clearly states that the earth is flat. Instead, many verses are introduced with manipulated
interpretation to prove such a premise. What is happening here is that some folks are
trying to take us back to the horse and buggy days without any of us having a horse and
buggy. Still, some people do see strange faces in the clouds. – Herb Evans
The Earth Has Ends
16. Earth has Ends: Deuteronomy 28:49, Deuteronomy 28:64, Deuteronomy 33:17, 1
Samuel 2:10, Job 37:3, Job 38:13, Psalm 46:9, Psalm 48:10, Psalm 59:13, Psalm 61:2,
Psalm 65:5, Psalm 67:7, Psalm 72:8, Psalm 98:3, Psalm 135:7, Proverbs 8:29, Proverbs
17:24, Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 5:26, Isaiah 26:15, Isaiah 40:28, Isaiah 41:5, Isaiah 41:9,
Isaiah 42:10, Isaiah 43:6, Isaiah 45:22, Isaiah 48:20, Isaiah 49:6, Isaiah 52:10, Jeremiah
10:13, Jeremiah 16:19, Jeremiah 25:31, Jeremiah 25:33, Jeremiah 51:16, Daniel 4:22,
Micah 5:4, Zechariah 9:10, Matthew 12:42, Luke 11:31, Acts 13:47
Deut 28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth . .
.
Deut 28:64 . . . LORD shall scatter thee . . . from the one end of the earth even unto the
other . . .
Deut 33:17 . . . he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth:
Psalm 46:9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth . . .
Psalm 48:10 According to thy name, O God, so is thy praise unto the ends of the earth . . .
Psalm 59:13 . . . let them know that God ruleth in Jacob unto the ends of the earth. Selah.
Psa 61:2 From the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my heart is overwhelmed . . .
Psa 65:5 O God of our salvation; who art the confidence of all the ends of the earth . . .
Psalm 67:7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him.
Psalm 72:8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of
the earth.
Psalm 98:3 . . . all the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.
Psalm 135:7 He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth . . .
Pro 8:29 . . . he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Pro 17:24 Wisdom is before him that hath understanding; but the eyes of a fool are in the
ends of the earth.
Pro 30:4 who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his
son's name . . .
Isa 5:26 And he . . . will hiss unto them from the end of the earth . . .
Isa 26:15 . . . thou hast increased the nation . . . thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of
the earth.
Isa 40:28 . . . the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth . . .
Isa 41:5 The isles saw it, and feared; the ends of the earth were afraid, drew near, and came.
Isa 41:9 Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth . . .
Isa 42:10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth . . .
Isa 43:6 I bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is
none else.
Isa 48:20 . . . declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth . . .
Isa 49:6 . . . that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
Isa 52:10 . . . all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
Jer 10:13 . . . and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth . . .
Jer 16:19 . . . the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth . . .
Jer 25:31 A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth . . . 33. And the slain of the
LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth . . .
(a lot of bodies HE)
Jer 51:16 . . . he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth . . .
Dan 4:22 It is thou, O king . . . for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy
dominion to the end of the earth. (Really, did the tree, Belteshazzar really do that? When?
– Her Evans)
Micah 5:4 . . . they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.
Zec 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the
battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be
from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.
Matt 12:42 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and
shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of
Solomon . . .
Luke 11:31 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this
generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the
wisdom of Solomon . . .
Acts 13:47 I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles . . . for salvation unto the ends of the
earth.
Obviously the ends of the earth are being made to mean something else than what they
are. The queen of
the south came to Solomon from Ethiopia and not from the uttermost parts of the flat
earther type earth. Did the tree of Belteshazzar really reach heaven? Did his kingdom
really reach the ends of the flat earth? Similar expressions of the regions beyond and
uttermost parts of earth and the ends of the world having three different underlying
words that are used for it, namely, the earth in general, the Roman Empire, and the
present and future eons (Isa 22:27, Rom 10:18, 1 Cor 10:11). No flat earth here! –
Herb Evans
God’s Word
God’s Word is ALWAYS Faithful and True: Jeremiah 42:5, Revelation 3:14,
Revelation 19:11, Revelation 21:5, Revelation 22:6
Finally, a statement with which I can agree. Still the author belongs to a cult and is a
heretic first class. The problem here is that a cult is hardly ever faithful and true.
Whoever is the originator of these 240 proof-texts is the problem and also those who
parrot him. – Herb Evans